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I also cringe when I hear people go off on Islam as a religion...Muslim extremists, sure, I get it...but not generalizations that encompass an entire religion.
But I have not heard that from either Perry of the lions share of the Tea Party.
In fact, the only person in this thread that has derided religion is you.
Do you have an example of Perry doing or saying anything anti-Muslim?
Who are you kidding here? Its been coming from nobody else but the TP? Frankly the ignorance game is getting kinda old.
As for Perry, he has already given tacit support of people who make this sort of thing their stock and trade as well as some truly sectarian nonsense.
Founding Father John Adams? Advice to Rick Perry: Don?t Meddle in Religion | Politics | Religion Dispatches
"In short, Governor Perry is partnering with an organization that believes that only Christians have the right to freely exercise their religious beliefs."
"Like other critics Rep. Naishtat objects to the involvement of the AFA saying, Jews, Muslims, Mormons, and Hindus, as well as Catholics and gays, would feel extremely out of place and unwelcome at any so-called national day of prayer and fasting organized and sponsored by the American Family Association."
Please don't bother with trying to distance Perry from the American Family Association.
Since Perry has made his religious beliefs a campaign point as well, it is fair game. The guy invites criticism of his frankly open views on the subject.
I also cringe when I hear people go off on Islam as a religion...Muslim extremists, sure, I get it...but not generalizations that encompass an entire religion.
But I have not heard that from either Perry of the lions share of the Tea Party.
In fact, the only person in this thread that has derided religion is you.
Do you have an example of Perry doing or saying anything anti-Muslim?
Who are you kidding here? Its been coming from nobody else but the TP? Frankly the ignorance game is getting kinda old.
As for Perry, he has already given tacit support of people who make this sort of thing their stock and trade as well as some truly sectarian nonsense.
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Another blog...thanks.
Do you read any articles that aren't opinion pieces?
I asked for an example of Perry expressing anti-Muslim sentiment.
Where are they?
No blogs, no editorials, no "tacit approval", no opinion pieces...
I'm a Missourian...Show Me the facts.
Not really. GWB did not actively court the hysterical set of the religious right to the same degree. He didn't have to. They were already solidly in his corner. Could you ever imagine a TP member saying this,
""Here in the United States our Muslim citizens are making many contributions in business, science and law, medicine and education, and in other fields. Muslim members of our Armed Forces and of my administration are serving their fellow Americans with distinction, upholding our nation's ideals of liberty and justice in a world at peace." "
Perry is just like Bush.......just not as intellectual
It wont matter. After his election the lefties will still be talking about how Perry wants to succeed. They say that because they are too fucking stupid to know the word "secede" or what it actually means.
One of your sidekicks actually said he hopes his state succeeds.
True story.
Perry never threaten to secede. Not now nor in the future.
In fact he said that there was absolutely no reason to consider leaving the Union.
I hear the same crap...lie after lie told about Rick Perry.
So here is the compendium so far.
Every lie debunked and sourced.
One or more of these lies has surfaced in every Perry thread on the board....
I start a thread about them and suddenly not one liberal wants to address them.
Very strange....or maybe not.
From your link..
When given a chance to stand up for his country, Perry demured. [What we find: In a politically theatrical moment, Perry edged toward a secession threat. Then or since, however, he hasnt said Texas should quit the United States. (You wudda read all about it.)
Rather than say he would work within a political system that had resolved grievances for 200 years.....he threatened to secede if things did not get better
Perry never threaten to secede. Not now nor in the future.
In fact he said that there was absolutely no reason to consider leaving the Union.
Care to try again?
It wont matter. After his election the lefties will still be talking about how Perry wants to succeed. They say that because they are too fucking stupid to know the word "secede" or what it actually means.
One of your sidekicks actually said he hopes his state succeeds.
True story.
From your link..
When given a chance to stand up for his country, Perry demured
Rather than say he would work within a political system that had resolved grievances for 200 years.....he threatened to secede if things did not get better
Perry never threaten to secede. Not now nor in the future.
In fact he said that there was absolutely no reason to consider leaving the Union.
Care to try again?
"You know, if Washington continues to thumb it's nose at the American people, who knows what what will come of that"
Sounds like a threat to me
Not really. GWB did not actively court the hysterical set of the religious right to the same degree. He didn't have to. They were already solidly in his corner. Could you ever imagine a TP member saying this,
""Here in the United States our Muslim citizens are making many contributions in business, science and law, medicine and education, and in other fields. Muslim members of our Armed Forces and of my administration are serving their fellow Americans with distinction, upholding our nation's ideals of liberty and justice in a world at peace." "
Can you imagine Franklin Roosevelt saying this;
"Here in the United States our Nazi citizens are making many contributions in business, science and law, medicine and education, and in other fields. Nazi members of our Armed Forces and of my administration are serving their fellow Americans with distinction, upholding our nation's ideals of liberty and justice in a world at peace."
Bush was an idiot.
Perry never threaten to secede. Not now nor in the future.
In fact he said that there was absolutely no reason to consider leaving the Union.
Perhaps that will be a lesson for him in his current contest: in the age of YouTube, dogwhistles to the nutbars in the party won't pass notice, no matter how artfully you craft the language for deniability later on.
But, given that he's now taken to accusing prominent federal officials of treason to rev up the nutbar base, not only does he seem to have not learned the lesson, he's ditched the dogwhistle all together and decided to go for the gold. Godspeed, Perry.
I hear the same crap...lie after lie told about Rick Perry.
So here is the compendium so far.
Every lie debunked and sourced.
1. The lie - Rick Perry threatened to secede.The Truth - Politifact says "FALSE".Here is the source - PolitiFact Texas | Bill White says Rick Perry threatened to secede
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2. The lie - Economic job growth in Texas was dependent on stimulus money and defense contracts...IOW Government Spending..The Truth - Texas has created more jobs in the last year than the other 49 states combined.
They all got stimulus money.
They all receive a share of defense spending.
When you look at the last government report on the subject of Federal Government spending by state...the Consolidated Federal Funds Report for Fiscal Year 2009, which is the most recent report that the Census Bureau has released...
Texas is close to the bottom...like 42 out of 50.
Here is the source: The States Where America Spends The Most (And The Least) Per Person - 24/7 Wall St.
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3. The misleading statement - Rick Perry raised taxes..
The Truth - Texas has no income tax. Zero. Zip. Zilch.The taxes that were raised:
The Legislature added a 2% tax on the retail sale of fireworks.
The Legislature added a tax of 1% on the purchase or rental of diesel equipment.
The Legislature made "tweaks" in the emissions reduction fund to bring in more money. (nothing about a tax)
There was a net tax decrease in 2006, where some taxes were raised and others lowered.
And some other mamby pamby stuff.
Politifact is the source: PolitiFact Texas | Gov. Rick Perry says he has a track record of not raising taxes
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4. The misleading statement - Perry doubled the debt in Texas.
The truth - While technically true...the reason for the increase in debt makes the statement missleading. According to Politifact:"It turns out that transportation is responsible for most of the added debt load under Perry, increasing from basically nothing in 2000 to $11.8 billion outstanding as of Aug. 31 2009.
That's because before 2001, the Texas Department of Transportation lacked the authority to borrow money to pay for road projects. Voters gave it that power in 2001 when they approved a constitutional amendment that Perry supported."
5. The lie - Rick Perry executed an innocent manThe truth - The most cursory investigation proves Rick Perry COULD NOT POSSIBLY have commuted Willingham's death sentence.
Cameron Todd Willingham was a Texas man whose three young children died in a 1991 fire at the family home in Corsicana, Texas. Willingham, accused of having set the fire, was convicted of murder and was executed in 2004. Shortly before the execution and after several years of unsuccessful appeals, an arson expert, Gerald Hurst, filed a report advising the 7-member Board of Pardons and Paroles that the investigation of the case had not been based on good science and that there was no proof of arson, but the Board of Pardons and Paroles declined to recommend clemency to the governor.
--------------------------------------------------Board of Pardons and Paroles
In addition, a defendant may also appeal to the Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles (a division of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice) for commutation of the [death] sentence.
The Board, after hearing testimony, decides whether or not to recommend commutation to the Governor of Texas. The Governor can accept or reject a positive recommendation of commutation, but has no power to override a negative recommendation.
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6. The lie - Rick Perry doesn't believe in global warming science..The Truth - Rick Perry doesn't believe MAN MADE global warming is proven science."We're seeing it almost weekly or almost daily, scientists who are coming forward and questioning the original idea that man-made global warming is what is causing the climate to change," the Texas governor added.
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Treasonous? Maybe hyperbole...maybe not, it depends on how QE1, QE2 & QE3 (if it is enacted) affect inflation.
Doubtful.......Seeing as though Obama's book detailing his love of Communist and Marxist scumbags did nothing to sink his candidacy, eh?In his 2010 book, "Fed Up!," Perry wrote that the federal government restricts "how much salt we can put on our food." Thats False. An agency has explored ways to reduce sodium in the food supply, and federal dietary guidelines recommend consuming less than 2,300 milligrams, or about 1 teaspoon, of sodium a day. But the government isn't telling anyone how much salt to sprinkle.
That book is gonna sink his candidacy.
Perry never threaten to secede. Not now nor in the future.
In fact he said that there was absolutely no reason to consider leaving the Union.
Care to try again?
"You know, if Washington continues to thumb it's nose at the American people, who knows what what will come of that"
Sounds like a threat to me
Ok RW, if Washington continues to thumb it's nose at the American people, what will come of that?
Treasonous? Maybe hyperbole...maybe not, it depends on how QE1, QE2 & QE3 (if it is enacted) affect inflation.
Really? What does the inflation rate have to be for Bernanke to be guilty of treason? Is that higher than it needs to be in order for him to be "treat[ed] pretty ugly"?
In a related question, how absurd, infantile, and embarrassing does a Perry gaffe have to be before you'll peek over the precipice and think "hmm, I probably shouldn't follow him over the cliff"?
