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Record deficits, record debt, record numbers of people in poverty and on assistence, declining influence, credit downgrades.
Nah, no problems here.
Yep. No problems here. Everything you mention is driven by our sluggish economy and, when the economy gets better (it will), your GOP mentors will quietly find something else to talk about.
See, some of us know our history. We've been through this before and today is only different by degree. The Great Depression was the result of the policies of GOP administrations previous to FDR, just as this one is. And, the talking points are exactly the same. The GOP and the RWNJ's called FDR a socialist, a communist, the anti-Christ, the devil incarnate and a tool of international conspiracies. Sound familiar? And, they warned of impending doom, the end of America as we know it, economic ruin, social upheaval, rebellion, insurrection, cultural collapse. Sound familiar? They opposed everything FDR did trying to preserve their myopic vision of an America for the wealthy elites, just like today.
But, none of that happened, did it? Know why? Because The People were not fools. They are not fools today either. The People know what's best for this country and they've voted their convictions. No matter how many times the right claims the election was stolen, or The People have been duped, or any other excuse, the fact is that The People have exercised their Constitutional authority and decided the course we're on is the right one.
They are as right today as they were back then. America will survive. Not only survive, but grow stronger and better.
Of course, those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it, ad nauseum, so don't feel foolish. You belong to a long line of doom-sayers and fear mongers who got it wrong.
This isn't the 1940s. Those who don't know that are doomed, period.
The economy will not imprive given the current set of regulations and taxation policies and the hostility to business. That is a mindset more than policy. And that mindset is what re-elected Obama.
So we are stuck in permanent euro-sclerosis--low growth, high unemployment. Japan has done this for 20 years, so it could be a while before things change.
Japan was the archetype of the rising power in the 1970s, about like China today. Now they are saddled with horrible demographics and a sputtering economy that will implode shortly. Things dont always turn around.
Yep. No problems here. Everything you mention is driven by our sluggish economy and, when the economy gets better (it will), your GOP mentors will quietly find something else to talk about.
See, some of us know our history. We've been through this before and today is only different by degree. The Great Depression was the result of the policies of GOP administrations previous to FDR, just as this one is. And, the talking points are exactly the same. The GOP and the RWNJ's called FDR a socialist, a communist, the anti-Christ, the devil incarnate and a tool of international conspiracies. Sound familiar? And, they warned of impending doom, the end of America as we know it, economic ruin, social upheaval, rebellion, insurrection, cultural collapse. Sound familiar? They opposed everything FDR did trying to preserve their myopic vision of an America for the wealthy elites, just like today.
But, none of that happened, did it? Know why? Because The People were not fools. They are not fools today either. The People know what's best for this country and they've voted their convictions. No matter how many times the right claims the election was stolen, or The People have been duped, or any other excuse, the fact is that The People have exercised their Constitutional authority and decided the course we're on is the right one.
They are as right today as they were back then. America will survive. Not only survive, but grow stronger and better.
Of course, those who don't know their history are doomed to repeat it, ad nauseum, so don't feel foolish. You belong to a long line of doom-sayers and fear mongers who got it wrong.
This isn't the 1940s. Those who don't know that are doomed, period.
The economy will not imprive given the current set of regulations and taxation policies and the hostility to business. That is a mindset more than policy. And that mindset is what re-elected Obama.
So we are stuck in permanent euro-sclerosis--low growth, high unemployment. Japan has done this for 20 years, so it could be a while before things change.
Japan was the archetype of the rising power in the 1970s, about like China today. Now they are saddled with horrible demographics and a sputtering economy that will implode shortly. Things dont always turn around.
You and Homer are wrong. You've let someone swindle you out of your joy, your optimism, your hope. You've allowed the right wing talking heads to cheat you out of a future. And, when hope is gone, it's all gone.
Move along folks. Nothing to see here.
I was all set to be joyful when Obama got voted out of office and the Democrats became a permanent minority. By all rights that's what should have happened.
But it didnt.
Why?
Because this country is addicted to entitlement. Once we pass that bar there is no going back.
You'd seriously probably be better off living somewhere else...like...say...a cave where you don't have to deal with that messy ol' democracy and them damned little narrow-minded, entitlement-lusting "darkies" who are just ruinin' your world.
You'd seriously probably be better off living somewhere else...like...say...a cave where you don't have to deal with that messy ol' democracy and them damned little narrow-minded, entitlement-lusting "darkies" who are just ruinin' your world.
If I did that I'd be living next door to you.
Specifically, where and how do y'all see America as "declining," other than the OP's suggestion that the white, Anglo-Protestant, Judeo-Christian's loss of power and control constitutes decline?
We're declining as a destination for foreign investment. We're declining as a dynamic economy. We're declining as a military power. We're declining as an influence in world politics. We're declining as a dynamic society where people work hard and get ahead into the middle and upper middle classes.
What real, hard evidence do you have to back that up?
And please note that none of that is brand new. We've been there before and the Republic survived. Not only survived, but prospered. Why won't we this time?
This isn't the 1940s. Those who don't know that are doomed, period.
The economy will not imprive given the current set of regulations and taxation policies and the hostility to business. That is a mindset more than policy. And that mindset is what re-elected Obama.
So we are stuck in permanent euro-sclerosis--low growth, high unemployment. Japan has done this for 20 years, so it could be a while before things change.
Japan was the archetype of the rising power in the 1970s, about like China today. Now they are saddled with horrible demographics and a sputtering economy that will implode shortly. Things dont always turn around.
You and Homer are wrong. You've let someone swindle you out of your joy, your optimism, your hope. You've allowed the right wing talking heads to cheat you out of a future. And, when hope is gone, it's all gone.
Move along folks. Nothing to see here.
I was all set to be joyful when Obama got voted out of office and the Democrats became a permanent minority. By all rights that's what should have happened.
But it didnt.
Why?
Because this country is addicted to entitlement. Once we pass that bar there is no going back.
We're declining as a destination for foreign investment. We're declining as a dynamic economy. We're declining as a military power. We're declining as an influence in world politics. We're declining as a dynamic society where people work hard and get ahead into the middle and upper middle classes.
What real, hard evidence do you have to back that up?
And please note that none of that is brand new. We've been there before and the Republic survived. Not only survived, but prospered. Why won't we this time?
This time we can't. In all those other times the Republic faced we had one thing we do not have now. We were one people. We had cultural and social bonds that kept us together. We don't have those bonds now. What we have is a fragmented America with various groups, tribes if you want, that do not share common interests nor common goals.
What real, hard evidence do you have to back that up?
And please note that none of that is brand new. We've been there before and the Republic survived. Not only survived, but prospered. Why won't we this time?
This time we can't. In all those other times the Republic faced we had one thing we do not have now. We were one people. We had cultural and social bonds that kept us together. We don't have those bonds now. What we have is a fragmented America with various groups, tribes if you want, that do not share common interests nor common goals.
You really don't know much about American history do you? Name ONE time when we were united and focused on a common goal, other than WWI or WWII.
Democrats would have voted for Robert Mugabe because he's black. Come to think if it, they did just that.
What real, hard evidence do you have to back that up?
And please note that none of that is brand new. We've been there before and the Republic survived. Not only survived, but prospered. Why won't we this time?
This time we can't. In all those other times the Republic faced we had one thing we do not have now. We were one people. We had cultural and social bonds that kept us together. We don't have those bonds now. What we have is a fragmented America with various groups, tribes if you want, that do not share common interests nor common goals.
You really don't know much about American history do you? Name ONE time when we were united and focused on a common goal, other than WWI or WWII.
This time we can't. In all those other times the Republic faced we had one thing we do not have now. We were one people. We had cultural and social bonds that kept us together. We don't have those bonds now. What we have is a fragmented America with various groups, tribes if you want, that do not share common interests nor common goals.
You really don't know much about American history do you? Name ONE time when we were united and focused on a common goal, other than WWI or WWII.
Every time. We were culturally and societally the same people for the majority. We had basically the same beliefs. The majority lived basically the same way with a mom and a dad who went to work every day. There were exceptions, but no one wanted to reflect the exception, but the rule. We all said Merry Christmas, even if sometimes a response was Happy Hannukah. We all stood for the pledge of allegiance and the national anthem. If every town had a town drunk and town slut, very few actually wanted to be a town drunk or a town slut. Now, as the celebrity of Sandra Fluke illustrates, at least half the girls in town want to be the town sluts. Legalize drugs so that whole towns can be town addicts with the disparagement going to the lone guy who is still sober.
How can anyone not realize that the nation is utterly divided to the point where we will never be united again. There's no point to unity.
This time we can't. In all those other times the Republic faced we had one thing we do not have now. We were one people. We had cultural and social bonds that kept us together. We don't have those bonds now. What we have is a fragmented America with various groups, tribes if you want, that do not share common interests nor common goals.
You really don't know much about American history do you? Name ONE time when we were united and focused on a common goal, other than WWI or WWII.
Every time. We were culturally and societally the same people for the majority. We had basically the same beliefs. The majority lived basically the same way with a mom and a dad who went to work every day. There were exceptions, but no one wanted to reflect the exception, but the rule. We all said Merry Christmas, even if sometimes a response was Happy Hannukah. We all stood for the pledge of allegiance and the national anthem. If every town had a town drunk and town slut, very few actually wanted to be a town drunk or a town slut. Now, as the celebrity of Sandra Fluke illustrates, at least half the girls in town want to be the town sluts. Legalize drugs so that whole towns can be town addicts with the disparagement going to the lone guy who is still sober.
How can anyone not realize that the nation is utterly divided to the point where we will never be united again. There's no point to unity.
This time we can't. In all those other times the Republic faced we had one thing we do not have now. We were one people. We had cultural and social bonds that kept us together. We don't have those bonds now. What we have is a fragmented America with various groups, tribes if you want, that do not share common interests nor common goals.
You really don't know much about American history do you? Name ONE time when we were united and focused on a common goal, other than WWI or WWII.
What's your definition of "united"? Even in WW2 we were not united. The Irish and Germans here thought we took the wrong side.
You really don't know much about American history do you? Name ONE time when we were united and focused on a common goal, other than WWI or WWII.
What's your definition of "united"? Even in WW2 we were not united. The Irish and Germans here thought we took the wrong side.
Well, it's true, Republicans fought the New Deal, fought America's rearming, but after Pearl Harbor many Republicans seemed to change and began supporting the war effort. We were pobably as close to being a united country after Pearl Harbor as we have ever been in our history. If so, was it because we had different Republicans then or that the Republicans recognized WWII as America's war not a political party's war?
You really don't know much about American history do you? Name ONE time when we were united and focused on a common goal, other than WWI or WWII.
Every time. We were culturally and societally the same people for the majority. We had basically the same beliefs. The majority lived basically the same way with a mom and a dad who went to work every day. There were exceptions, but no one wanted to reflect the exception, but the rule. We all said Merry Christmas, even if sometimes a response was Happy Hannukah. We all stood for the pledge of allegiance and the national anthem. If every town had a town drunk and town slut, very few actually wanted to be a town drunk or a town slut. Now, as the celebrity of Sandra Fluke illustrates, at least half the girls in town want to be the town sluts. Legalize drugs so that whole towns can be town addicts with the disparagement going to the lone guy who is still sober.
How can anyone not realize that the nation is utterly divided to the point where we will never be united again. There's no point to unity.
Good Lord! I'm shocked! You really DON'T know much about our history!
We've NEVER been unified, NEVER agreed on much of anything. We've been the most fractious, argumentative, contentious, selfish, cold-hearted and unloving people on the face of the earth for more than 200 years. That Pax Americana, "good ol' days" you think is our standard never even existed anywhere but Hollywood. Trust me..."Leave it to Beaver" and "It's a Wonderful Life" are fiction...total fiction. We've been fighting among ourselves since before the Revolution and the ONLY time we've even been REMOTELY unified is when some other country tried to involve themselves in our affairs.
Not only that, but we've been so divided before that we actually started shooting at each other, more than once, yet the nation survived and grew.
I don't know what alternate universe you think the United States once existed in, but let me clue you in on a little secret: It is our DIFFERENCES, our fights, our arguments, which make this country great...not our uniformity. And, we will continue to be great so long as we agree to live under that precious document created by visionaries in 1787 who understood that our strength and unity is found in our differences. E Pluribus Unum, "Out of many, one" is the guiding principle which has made the United States of America the ideal to which others aspire and that will continue until, and unless, some take a notion to change our form of government or leave the Union because they're unwilling to compromise, to get along, to accept the Will of The People as expressed in our free and open elections.
If you want to fear the future because of something, fear that.
Every time. We were culturally and societally the same people for the majority. We had basically the same beliefs. The majority lived basically the same way with a mom and a dad who went to work every day. There were exceptions, but no one wanted to reflect the exception, but the rule. We all said Merry Christmas, even if sometimes a response was Happy Hannukah. We all stood for the pledge of allegiance and the national anthem. If every town had a town drunk and town slut, very few actually wanted to be a town drunk or a town slut. Now, as the celebrity of Sandra Fluke illustrates, at least half the girls in town want to be the town sluts. Legalize drugs so that whole towns can be town addicts with the disparagement going to the lone guy who is still sober.
How can anyone not realize that the nation is utterly divided to the point where we will never be united again. There's no point to unity.
Good Lord! I'm shocked! You really DON'T know much about our history!
We've NEVER been unified, NEVER agreed on much of anything. We've been the most fractious, argumentative, contentious, selfish, cold-hearted and unloving people on the face of the earth for more than 200 years. That Pax Americana, "good ol' days" you think is our standard never even existed anywhere but Hollywood. Trust me..."Leave it to Beaver" and "It's a Wonderful Life" are fiction...total fiction. We've been fighting among ourselves since before the Revolution and the ONLY time we've even been REMOTELY unified is when some other country tried to involve themselves in our affairs.
Not only that, but we've been so divided before that we actually started shooting at each other, more than once, yet the nation survived and grew.
I don't know what alternate universe you think the United States once existed in, but let me clue you in on a little secret: It is our DIFFERENCES, our fights, our arguments, which make this country great...not our uniformity. And, we will continue to be great so long as we agree to live under that precious document created by visionaries in 1787 who understood that our strength and unity is found in our differences. E Pluribus Unum, "Out of many, one" is the guiding principle which has made the United States of America the ideal to which others aspire and that will continue until, and unless, some take a notion to change our form of government or leave the Union because they're unwilling to compromise, to get along, to accept the Will of The People as expressed in our free and open elections.
If you want to fear the future because of something, fear that.
How can you actually be this clueless. Differences never unite and never united us. We were always able to find compromise because our basic beliefs were the same. We are no longer out of many one, but out of many, many more. Our basic beliefs are no longer the same. We were always able to be fractious and hammer out some agreement because the goals were the same. The difference was how to get there. The very goals aren't the same any more. You might think they are and that's the pity because you think the same America still exists. It doesn't. When you get to concepts like whether or not the sight of the Flag is offensive, or whether the Pledge of Allegiance is offensive or whether the National Anthem should be played, you have reached the very bedrock of difference. We no longer respect the same flag, or say the same Pledge or even want to hear the same Anthem. That difference goes way beyond fractious arguments over policy.
