Restrictive voting laws on rise...

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  1. PoliticalChic
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    In a brazen, naked attempt to wring a rep from Ms. Truthie...I'll post one of these way-Left wing news stories about how the right-wing, fascist Republicans are depriving poor, hard-working, puppy-loving Democrats of their hard-won voting rights in an effort to institute a theocracy of the rich...and reinstitute slavery.
    And feudalism.
    And pollution.

    OK...here goes:
    Restrictive voting laws on rise across country


    by Michael Hirsch | published November 24, 2011

    1. In 2011, legislators in seven states — Alabama, Kansas, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and Wisconsin — rewrote voting laws to require voters to present state-issued photo identification, while a voter-ID ballot question passed in Mississippi on Nov. 8.

    2. Florida and Ohio cut nearly in half the number of days for early voting and eliminated Sunday voting. Florida also will impose penalties for minor infractions on third-party voter-registration drives, prompting the nonpartisan League of Women Voters to cease voter registration in the state.

    3. In all, Republican lawmakers in 23 states have passed, tried to pass or are attempting to pass laws toughening voter registration and voting requirements [see map, below] in what critics call the most concerted effort to roll back voting rights in decades. Critics from the NAACP to the AFT call it voter suppression: a blatant effort by states run by Republicans to tamp down on voting by low-income and minority voters in next year’s presidential election.

    4. “States where restrictive laws have already passed represent 63 percent of the electoral votes needed to win the presidency,” says the Advancement Project, which tracks election laws.
    The right-wing billionaire Koch brothers are big proponents of these new laws. The American Legislative Exchange Council, funded heavily by them, prepares model voter-suppression legislation.
    Critics call the new laws a modern-day version of the Jim Crow-era poll taxes and literacy tests — which are no longer limited to the South or African Americans.

    5. “There is once again a quiet but systematic movement that would deny many African Americans and other American citizens the ability to vote with 21st century versions of old exclusionary practices,” said Marian Wright Edelman, the president of the Children’s Defense Fund, in an article in the Huffington Post.

    “The generations ahead of us had to face Jim Crow,” said the Rev. Al Sharpton at the Nov. 8 press conference to launch the “Stand for Freedom” campaign. “We face his son, James Crow Jr., Esq.”

    6. The Republican supporters of these laws say they prevent widespread voter fraud.

    7. ...American Civil Liberties Union: “Multiple studies have found that almost all cases of in-person voter ‘fraud’ are the result of a voter making an honest mistake
    Restrictive voting laws on rise across country | United Federation of Teachers

    I ask you....photo-ID's???
    Can concentration camps be far behind?

    C'mon, Ms. Truthie...look at the work I've saved you!
    Give it up!


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    I would bet that there are essentially the same number of Republican voters that lack approved ID's,so these laws are "preventing" Republicans from voting as well.
     
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    How about the Dems helping them to get ID's, rather than wanting to get rid of the Voter ID laws.
    I don't hear a peep out of them wanting to do so, just to repeal the laws so that we still have dead people voting.
     
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    The State Board of Elections matched its database of 6.1 million registered voters with records at the Division of Motor Vehicles and found that 1 million voters did not have a NC driver’s license or identification card with matching name and address – a current, valid NC photo ID.
    Out of the 1 million voters:

    Blacks make up 22% of all Active voters, they are 32% of those without an ID, which means if you’re a Black Active voter, you’re 48% more likely to not have a current ID than other Active voters. Seniors over 65 are 20% of Active voters but 32% of those with no ID. Women and Democrats are also more likely to not have a current ID than men and Republicans.

    Who doesn
     
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    “The findings of this analysis suggest that voter identification requirements, such as requiring non-photo and photo identification, have virtually no suppressive effect on reported voter turnout.

    Controlling for factors that influence voter turn¬out, states with stricter voter identification laws largely do not have the claimed negative impact on voter turnout when compared to states with more lenient voter identification laws.

    Based on the Eagleton Institute's findings, some members of the media have claimed that voter identification law suppress voter turnout, especially among minori¬ties.[80] Their conclusion is unfounded. When statis¬tically significant and negative relationships are found in our analysis, the effects are so small that the findings offer little policy significance.

    More important, minority respondents in states that required photo identification are just as likely to report voting as are minority respon¬dents from states that only required voters to say their name.”For a thorough statistical analysis of the effect of voter identification requirements:
    New Analysis Shows Voter Identification Laws Do Not Reduce Turnout
     
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    I've been voting in Texas for the past 32 years and I have always had to show an ID if I didn't have my voter's registration card on me.

    I don't see the big problem with having to show proof of residency and/or citizenship.
     
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    Should this discussion also include the fact that Democrats are working hard to get voting rights for felons?

    " Several Democratic presidential candidates, including frontrunner Howard Dean, also support felon voting.

    A cynic may be forgiven for suspecting that the motivation behind such support has as much to do with political expediency as principle.

    Several recent studies contend that even allowing for their expected lower participation rates, the restoration of voting rights to felons would have shifted the outcome of a number of recent congressional elections. This tantalizes the felon-vote movement. But the movement receives its greatest inspiration from the 2000 election fiasco in Florida. Felon-vote proponents claim that had felons who have completed their sentences been permitted to vote in Florida, Gore would be president today. And they're probably right.
    The restoration of voting rights to felons is decidedly unpopular with the electorate. For example, in 1998, more than 80 percent of Utah voters approved a measure to bar inmates from voting. In 2000, the Massachusetts electorate, among the most liberal in the country, voted for a constitutional amendment barring felon inmates from voting.
    But overwhelming public opposition has not deterred felon-vote advocates. They've simply resorted to a receptive judiciary to achieve their objective.

    As David Lampo notes, these distinctions are immaterial to many felon-vote advocates. Their aim is nothing less than the wholesale restoration of voting rights to all convicts — and that suggests an agenda that's more partisan than altruistic."

    Peter Kirsanow on Felon & Election 2004 on National Review Online
     
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    I find this hard to believe.

    In NC, do you need identification to apply for government assistance like food stamps?

    If so then you want us to believe that of the 48 percent of blacks that do not possess a DL also don't recieve govt. assistance of any kind.

    You can't apply for medicare without an ID. So chances are most old folks have a photo ID.

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    I noticed how you conveniently left out two important words. I included them in bold
     
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    How do people get along without State ID?
     
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    Hmm, if the votes of felons would have swung the election that means we are locking up too many citizens in the first place. Many of those felons were probably non-violent drug offenses.

    Voter ID in Indiana works pretty well. Don't have drivers license the DMV will provide an ID. But of course you must first prove you are who you claim to be to get one. If you are going to be one of the few people who desire to vote then going to the DMV and getting an ID does not place an undo strain on a person. Heck, in Indiana you are required to show ID to buy a pack of cigarettes even.

    Voting is not a privilege it is a civic duty.
     
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