Resistance fighters survive Israeli raid

[P F Tinmore]

Place of birth has to be a country, I don't see how it could be printed on a birth certificate.
As a matter of fact there have never been a country named Palestine.
Also as stated before, Palestinian identity is artificial as there never were a group of people that called themselves Palestinians before 1900. (I don't know the exact date when they decided to call themselves that.) The residents of Palestine in the 1900's were Arabs.




It's Irrelevant because the Arabs did not agree.
Had they agreed and not attacked Israel afterwards they would have a country now.


Really ? So how come they didn't create their own country at that time ?

One of the parts of resolution 181 was that it had to be agreed by both parties to be valid. Both parties did not agree making the proposal void. That is why it was never implemented by the Security Council.

I think you scored a self goal ... (I think it an European expression ... i believe in the US they say 'Shot yourself in the leg')

You see, I didn't know that the Arabs not agreeing would make the proposal void.(I'm still not sure it is the case, but if it is that is not really good for your argument)

You would have something there if the Arabs would not start a war and loose.
As the Jews declared the Sovereignty of the state of Israel the day before the British mandate ended, and were attacked on the next day successfully fending off the attackers. As a result of the war any land that they controlled after the attack belongs to them , because they have conquered it. (It's legitimate because the British left and the proposal was void as you said , so the land was without an owner)

The even worse part for your argument is that because there was no agreement this means there is no green line and blue line.
If the UN proposal was void , then all the territory that Israel has conquered during all the other times Arab armies attacked it are also legitimate Israeli territory.

(Of course all of this is only true if the proposal was void)

They have been trying but Israel has been in Palestine since 1948.

What are you talking about ?
You said that they wanted a sovereign state when they were under Egyptian and Jordanian rule.
Why didn't they ask Jordan Or Egypt for sovereignty ?

You would have something there if the Arabs would not start a war and loose.

That is not true. The Arab countries did not attack Israel. When Israel declared itself to be a state it had no land or borders. I have asked many times for someone to post a 1948 map of Israel but nobody has been able to find one. All the accounts of the day say that those Arab countries entered Palestine.

An armistice was called by a UN Security Council resolution. Nobody lost that war.The 1949 UN armistice agreements showed no change in the borders of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, or Palestine. None of them lost any land. No place called Israel nor any borders for Israel were mentioned in the agreements.

 

[docmauser1]

That is not true.

Of course, it is! If it were not, arabs wouldn't be lying like pornstars.

The Arab countries did not attack Israel.

So, arab countries had been beating one another up. Funny.

When Israel declared itself to be a state it had no land or borders.

Like palistanians now?

I have asked many times for someone to post a 1948 map of Israel but nobody has been able to find one. All the accounts of the day say that those Arab countries entered Palestine.

Oh! So they showed up not to destroy a state, but to kill jews off, which is even worse!

An armistice was called by a UN Security Council resolution.

Rather silly, in view that, as claimed indirectly, arab armies entered palestine to beat one another up.

Nobody lost that war.

Then why are arab assholes spreading their liberation-occupation drivel around?!

The 1949 UN armistice agreements showed no change in the borders of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, or Palestine. None of them lost any land. No place called Israel nor any borders for Israel were mentioned in the agreements.

Cool, so what moustafa signed the agreements?

 

[mgiraud999]

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[Wolverine1984]

One of the parts of resolution 181 was that it had to be agreed by both parties to be valid. Both parties did not agree making the proposal void. That is why it was never implemented by the Security Council.

I think you scored a self goal ... (I think it an European expression ... i believe in the US they say 'Shot yourself in the leg')

You see, I didn't know that the Arabs not agreeing would make the proposal void.(I'm still not sure it is the case, but if it is that is not really good for your argument)

You would have something there if the Arabs would not start a war and loose.
As the Jews declared the Sovereignty of the state of Israel the day before the British mandate ended, and were attacked on the next day successfully fending off the attackers. As a result of the war any land that they controlled after the attack belongs to them , because they have conquered it. (It's legitimate because the British left and the proposal was void as you said , so the land was without an owner)

The even worse part for your argument is that because there was no agreement this means there is no green line and blue line.
If the UN proposal was void , then all the territory that Israel has conquered during all the other times Arab armies attacked it are also legitimate Israeli territory.

(Of course all of this is only true if the proposal was void)


What are you talking about ?
You said that they wanted a sovereign state when they were under Egyptian and Jordanian rule.
Why didn't they ask Jordan Or Egypt for sovereignty ?

You would have something there if the Arabs would not start a war and loose.

That is not true. The Arab countries did not attack Israel. When Israel declared itself to be a state it had no land or borders. I have asked many times for someone to post a 1948 map of Israel but nobody has been able to find one. All the accounts of the day say that those Arab countries entered Palestine.

An armistice was called by a UN Security Council resolution. Nobody lost that war.The 1949 UN armistice agreements showed no change in the borders of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, or Palestine. None of them lost any land. No place called Israel nor any borders for Israel were mentioned in the agreements.

Wait , let me get this straight , you are saying there were no war between Jews and Arabs in 1948 ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

I think you scored a self goal ... (I think it an European expression ... i believe in the US they say 'Shot yourself in the leg')

You see, I didn't know that the Arabs not agreeing would make the proposal void.(I'm still not sure it is the case, but if it is that is not really good for your argument)

You would have something there if the Arabs would not start a war and loose.
As the Jews declared the Sovereignty of the state of Israel the day before the British mandate ended, and were attacked on the next day successfully fending off the attackers. As a result of the war any land that they controlled after the attack belongs to them , because they have conquered it. (It's legitimate because the British left and the proposal was void as you said , so the land was without an owner)

The even worse part for your argument is that because there was no agreement this means there is no green line and blue line.
If the UN proposal was void , then all the territory that Israel has conquered during all the other times Arab armies attacked it are also legitimate Israeli territory.

(Of course all of this is only true if the proposal was void)


What are you talking about ?
You said that they wanted a sovereign state when they were under Egyptian and Jordanian rule.
Why didn't they ask Jordan Or Egypt for sovereignty ?

You would have something there if the Arabs would not start a war and loose.

That is not true. The Arab countries did not attack Israel. When Israel declared itself to be a state it had no land or borders. I have asked many times for someone to post a 1948 map of Israel but nobody has been able to find one. All the accounts of the day say that those Arab countries entered Palestine.

An armistice was called by a UN Security Council resolution. Nobody lost that war.The 1949 UN armistice agreements showed no change in the borders of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, or Palestine. None of them lost any land. No place called Israel nor any borders for Israel were mentioned in the agreements.

Wait , let me get this straight , you are saying there were no war between Jews and Arabs in 1948 ?

Which Arabs?

 

[Wolverine1984]

That is not true. The Arab countries did not attack Israel. When Israel declared itself to be a state it had no land or borders. I have asked many times for someone to post a 1948 map of Israel but nobody has been able to find one. All the accounts of the day say that those Arab countries entered Palestine.

An armistice was called by a UN Security Council resolution. Nobody lost that war.The 1949 UN armistice agreements showed no change in the borders of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, or Palestine. None of them lost any land. No place called Israel nor any borders for Israel were mentioned in the agreements.

Wait , let me get this straight , you are saying there were no war between Jews and Arabs in 1948 ?

Which Arabs?

Come on.
Really ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Wait , let me get this straight , you are saying there were no war between Jews and Arabs in 1948 ?

Which Arabs?

Come on.
Really ?

Really. There are Saudi Arabian Arabs, Egyptian Arabs, Palestinian Arabs, etc.

Which Arabs are you talking about?

 

[Wolverine1984]

Which Arabs?

Come on.
Really ?

Really. There are Saudi Arabian Arabs, Egyptian Arabs, Palestinian Arabs, etc.

Which Arabs are you talking about?

It seems two posts ago you knew perfectly well which Arabs we are talking about. Lost your memory ?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Come on.
Really ?

Really. There are Saudi Arabian Arabs, Egyptian Arabs, Palestinian Arabs, etc.

Which Arabs are you talking about?

It seems to posts ago you knew perfectly well which Arabs we are talking about. Lost your memory ?

You should be more specific. Not all Arabs were in that war.

 

[docmauser1]

Really. There are Saudi Arabian Arabs, Egyptian Arabs, Palestinian Arabs, etc.Which Arabs are you talking about?

It seems to posts ago you knew perfectly well which Arabs we are talking about. Lost your memory ?

You should be more specific. Not all Arabs were in that war.

Silly arab bullshit.