Resigning my defense of Islam

[AllieBaba]

But not threatening pms, eh?

Loser.

 

[Sky Dancer]

But not threatening pms, eh?

Loser.

If you call me telling you I would report your abusive pms and unwillingness to stop sending them as 'threatening pms', so be it. This is my last post to you since you continue to name call.

See ya.



Example of Allie Baba abuse:

"Fuck off. Spare me your "poor little me" schtick, in other words. Bitch."

 

[AllieBaba]

Bye, you slut.

Ha, ha..I know you're not a slut. Who the hell would put up with your fucking hysterics?

 

[AllieBaba]

*abusvie* pms, what a hoot.

I guess responding to a neg rep with an insult is *abusive* these days to left wing loons.

But then, we all know that elderly people are in danger because JW go door to door, causing the old people to be *too trusting* in re: door knocking.

Another classic SkyDancer retardism.

*Abuse* to you is having to hear any opinion, even one that you ask for (especially those) that you don't like.

Let's hear more about how you want to ban Christians from schools and politics, Sky. I like it when you get all *I am the voice of reason* and such. You're funny.

 

[Sky Dancer]

After investigating which of the 79 countries in the United Nations voted for the right to execute gays without cause, and seeing most of them are Muslim majority nations, I will no longer defend Islam as peaceful.

I do support the right of every American to practice their religion freely, including Muslims.

I've had good experiences with American Sufis, and enjoy Sufi poetry, but I have no problem admitting my stubbornness of clinging to these has blinded me to the dangers of Islamic law.

I was wrong. That doesn't mean I hate Muslims or feel as though there is nothing of value in Islamic spiritual practices.

you got thanked by a bunch of social cons who wish they could get gays executed here, but they liked your post b/c you ripped on islam

I disagree. I don't think anyone who thanked me for that opening wants to see gays be executed in the US.

I can only think of one poster who would like to see me executed and that individual was NOT on that list.

 

[xsited1]

Resigning my defense of Islam

Obama is gonna get you!

He's already got me. I voted for him and continue to support him as President of the United States.

My apologies.

 

[AllieBaba]

Social cons are typically left wingers.
And I've never seen any con here advocate for slaughtering gays. Killing off undesirables is totally progressive.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Obama is gonna get you!

He's already got me. I voted for him and continue to support him as President of the United States.

My apologies.

No problem. I love Barack Obama.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Social conservatives are right wing.

"Social conservatism is a political or moral ideology that believes government and/or society have a role in encouraging or enforcing traditional values or behaviors based on the belief that these are what keep people civilized and decent. ..."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservative

"One who favors social policies based on a particular reading of Judeo-Christian values, generally in favor of public prayer and the right to own guns, and opposed to abortion rights, same-sex marriage and the teaching of evolution in public schools"
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/social_conservative

 

[AllieBaba]

Er..where does you WIKI definition say it's right wing, you retard?

 

[Sky Dancer]

"right wing: those who support political or social or economic conservatism; those who believe that things are better left unchanged"

wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn


Left wing: In politics, left-wing, leftist and the Left are generally used to describe support for social change with a view towards creating a more egalitarian society. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-Wing

 

[AllieBaba]

"The religious right usually just wants to be left alone, either to home school, pray in public or not get their children vaccinated with who-knows-what. Inasmuch as the "religious right" wants some things outlawed, they have failed miserably for at least the last 50 years. Abortion, sodomy, and pornography are now all Constitutional rights. However, praying in public school is outlawed, based on that same Constitution.

Just think for a moment about the things you are actually forced to do or are prevented from doing. Seat belts. Motorcycle helmets. Bicycle helmets. Smoking. Gun purchase and ownership restrictions. Mandatory vaccines for your children. Car emissions inspections. Campaign ad and contribution restrictions. Saying a prayer at a public school graduation or football game. Trash separation and recycling. Keeping the money you earned. Gas tax. Telephone tax. Income tax. FICA withholding. Fill in this form. Provide ID.


For the most part, the list just cited is post-1960. Neither Pat Robertson nor James Dobson ever forced any of that on us.


How powerful is "social conservatism"?


I can get pornography right at my keyboard, or drive a mile and get all the sex toys I can fit into my car. I can walk to the nearest casino to gamble (but can no longer smoke there). I do need to travel to Nevada for a legal prostitute. If my teenage daughters had wanted abortions, they could have had them free and without even notifying me. (However, had they taken Advil to school, we'd all be in trouble.)


Drugs


There is one thing I can think of that is actually outlawed and that the religious right wants outlawed: illegal drugs. But the criminalization of drugs enjoys broad bipartisan support; it is not exactly an issue owned by the religious right. Last I heard, 70% of those polled wanted to keep drugs outlawed.


But recall that in the Supreme Court decision that ruled against medical marijuana, Gonzales v. Raich, it was the "social conservative" contingent of Rehnquist and Thomas who dissented. Clarence Thomas began his dissent as follows .

Respondents Diane Monson and Angel Raich use marijuana that has never been bought or sold, that has never crossed state lines, and that has had no demonstrable effect on the national market for marijuana. If Congress can regulate this under the Commerce Clause, then it can regulate virtually anything-and the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers.
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I'll take that kind of "social conservatism" all I can. It sounds like freedom to me."

American Thinker: A Libertarian Defense of Social Conservatism

 

[Sky Dancer]

The religious right does NOT want to be left alone and to 'live and let live'. They want to legislate their narrow form of morality to ALL. They want to force others to listen to their prayers when they pray in public. They want to proseletize. They won't stay out of other people bedrooms and private lives. They want to restrict the rights of non-christians to practice their religions and they don't think atheists should be citizens. (See HW Bush)

United States political faction that advocates social and political conservativism, school prayer, and federal aid for religious groups and schools
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

The religious right does NOT want to be left alone and to 'live and let live'. They want to legislate their narrow form of morality to ALL.

Dont call that conservatism.

 

[editec]

After investigating which of the 79 countries in the United Nations voted for the right to execute gays without cause, and seeing most of them are Muslim majority nations, I will no longer defend Islam as peaceful.

AFter studying history for the last half century or so I have to report that no major religion (and certainly no Abrahamic religion) is a religion of peace.

Islam?

Most certainly has plenty of blood spilled by its zealots.

Christianity?

Basically the same thing to report.

 

[Sky Dancer]

The religious right does NOT want to be left alone and to 'live and let live'. They want to legislate their narrow form of morality to ALL.

Dont call that conservatism.

It is social conservatism. Some citizens are fiscal conservatives and social progressives.

 

[Sky Dancer]

After investigating which of the 79 countries in the United Nations voted for the right to execute gays without cause, and seeing most of them are Muslim majority nations, I will no longer defend Islam as peaceful.

AFter studying history for the last half century or so I have to report that no major religion (and certainly no Abrahamic religion) is a religion of peace.

Islam?

Most certainly has plenty of blood spilled by its zealots.

Christianity?

Basically the same thing to report.

I don't know if Buddhism qualifies as a major religion by your standards but I submit it is a religion of peace and of non-violence.

There is no Buddhist text that justifies violence. At the same time, Buddhists are human beings and subject to their karma.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

After investigating which of the 79 countries in the United Nations voted for the right to execute gays without cause, and seeing most of them are Muslim majority nations, I will no longer defend Islam as peaceful.

AFter studying history for the last half century or so I have to report that no major religion (and certainly no Abrahamic religion) is a religion of peace.

Islam?

Most certainly has plenty of blood spilled by its zealots.

Christianity?

Basically the same thing to report.

Ancient history versus current events. that is a bit like comparing Hannibal to Qadaffi and declaring that modern day Greece is just like Libya.

In other words, you are an idiot.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,

After investigating which of the 79 countries in the United Nations voted for the right to execute gays without cause, and seeing most of them are Muslim majority nations, I will no longer defend Islam as peaceful.

I do support the right of every American to practice their religion freely, including Muslims.

I've had good experiences with American Sufis, and enjoy Sufi poetry, but I have no problem admitting my stubbornness of clinging to these has blinded me to the dangers of Islamic law.

I was wrong. That doesn't mean I hate Muslims or feel as though there is nothing of value in Islamic spiritual practices.

1. Biggest pussyfoot around double speak, *political correctness* walking the fine line not to offend the, *Muslims*.
2. SkyD, is offended that Islam wants to kill the homo's and is some what able to complain, I say SkyD, is protecting himself from the glass falling from a building, while the steel frame work is just about to crush him.
3. So SkyD enjoys Islamic poetry, I find that gay, and even bordering on stupid, look SkyD, Islam hates gays, if you're gay they want you dead, now deal with that, they want alot of people dead, you're just another gay ready to be thrown in the furnace, you'll get used to to it.
4. Oh and its okay to hate Islam that wants to kill you, stop all the *political correctness*.



Regards,
SirJamesofTexas