Republicans Will Pass Obama's Jobs Bill or Find Themselves Unemployed

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    Where have the Democrats been hiding that version of Barack Obamaall summer?

    In a fiery speech before Congress, President Obama laid out an effective, workable jobs plan and demanded (not asked, but demanded) that Congress get off its butt and pass the bill. The attitude change is a far cry from the near begging tone Obama took with the GOP when the Republicans took the entire country hostage during the debt ceiling fight.

    For starters, the bill itself is good, if not great. Could it be bigger and more progressive? Sure. Instead, it's exactly what the split government, bipartisan times calls for: some Democratic ideas, some Republican ideas, and a price tag that is offset with future cuts and tax loophole closings. In other words, it is the perfect bill.

    Source: Republicans Will Pass Obama's Jobs Bill or Find Themselves Unemployed | Benzinga
     
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    Are you kidding? What's great about doing a repeat of something that already failed? We spent a trillion dollars on Stimulus I and it didn't create jobs. Now you want to spend half a trillion on Stimulus II and you expect that THIS time it it's going to work?

    To be blunt? What the hell are you thinking? Do you REALLY not understand that we can't keep blowing money on these stupid stimulus bills that are nothing more than temporary fixes that don't create long term jobs? Do you REALLY not understand that if we don't get our spending under control that we WILL have our credit rating downgraded yet again?

    The stupidity of the far left is almost mind numbing at this point. Barack Obama could stand up in front of a microphone and read the contents list off of a box of Frosted Flakes and you idiots would think it was a "perfect bill".
     
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    If Democrats pass it, they may well find themselves unemployed too. Life's a bitch like that.
     
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    It is the same as the last effort, only half as much.

    So that means it will fail only half so badly.

    According to the hype for the orignal jobs plan, unemployment would not cross 8% (it got over 10%) and we would now be having near full employment (around 5 1/2%) even with a large increase in the work force. We now have 9.1% unemployment with a substantially smaller workforce.

    With the last great plan we didn't get any of the promised results. He wants to repeat the same stupid and expect that the result would be any different from the last experiment. That is the definition of insanity.

    The republicans are not interested in repeating stupid.
     
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    Obama is not planning for the Repubix to sign it.... he is banking on them not going for it so he can blame them for the bad economy.


     
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    We can only hope. Unfortunately, too many people think anything Obama does is a failure, because... well, because they hate Obama.

    In 2008 the Dow slid almost 40%. There were days when it was falling 5-10% per day. Entire industries were collapsing, banks were afraid to lend to each other, and serious, intelligent people worried that the financial system itself was on the verge of collapse.

    That was the last year of the Bush presidency.

    Now the financial system is more or less sound, banks are lending, GM is viable, profit-making company, not one person lost $1 in an FDIC account, and the economy is growing again.

    What's the Republican response? "You promised unemployment would go down to 8.5%, and it's actually 9.1%." (Never mind that none of that is true.)

    Look, it doesn't matter what Obama does or doesn't do. Republicans hate him, and want him to fail. In fact, the #1 reason the economy isn't better than it is is Republican obstructionism.

    How much did that fake crisis over the debt ceiling, alone, hurt us?
     
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    Fake crisis? My god but you people are clueless. Do you not "get" that we've been downgraded because of our deficit? Do you not "get" that the rating agencies are threatening us with a further downgrade if we don't cut our deficit? Every time that we raise the debt ceiling now without addressing the deficit it's going to come back to bite us in the ass. The credit rating agencies are telling us that we have to address this problem and what is Barack Obama doing? He's asking to spend another 1/2 trillion on the same stimulus that didn't work two years ago.

    And for your information, Christina Romer stood in front of the White House as President Barack Obama's Chief Economic Adviser and stated that if the original stimulus was passed it would keep unemployment from going over 8%. For you to say that isn't "true" is total, unadulterated, grade A, bull shit. It not only went over 8%...it went well over 10%.

    As for your claim that the financial system is "sound" and the economy is "growing"? What exactly are you smoking? The banks in this country are in terrible shape and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are a disaster...while the economy is "growing" at a 1% rate. That's not something to brag about...we are teetering on the brink of a double dip recession.

    It doesn't matter what Obama does or doesn't do? Did you really say that? Your guy had a freaking super majority. He didn't do DIDDLY with it except pass one of the worst pieces of legislation in the history of our country...ObamaCare...and a trillion dollar stimulus plan that didn't create new jobs. The reason people view him as a failure is that he is one.
     
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    Why would anyone listen to Obama, the Downgraded President?
     
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    Tell your Reps. to stand firm ON NOT giving this idiot ANOTHER DIME of OUR MONEY.

    HE already blew 800 billion and we are STILL at 9.1% unemployment. don't let the dumb threats get to you. Obama is DOWN at 40% approval. the People have had ENOUGHT OF HIS crap. The Republicans were elected in November to put A STOP to THIS OUTRAGIOUS SPENDING...I will agree with one thing if the Republicans pass this bill, we need to make sure they and the Democrats lose their jobs in the next election.

    CALL YOUR REPS.
     

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