Republicans want to cut education by 25 percent.

[rdean]

Because Budget Resolution 34 doesn't include detailed breakdowns of Function 500 spending reductions, it's impossible to determine exactly how much of the cuts are proposed to come out of the education budget. Further, the plan itself, in resolution form, does not dictate exact spending levels, but instead sets the maximum amount that can be spent. Congressional committees and floor votes determine the rest.

Still, because education spending makes up such a large proportion of the total Function 500 costs – over 90 percent – it's safe to assume most of the cuts from this category would come from education.

With that in mind, the percentages don't lie. The Ryan budget proposal included more than 25 percent funding cuts every year between 2016 and 2021, and it proposed a total 24 percent funding cut between 2012 and 2021, within range of Axelrod’s 25 percent figure. Axelrod's figures are correct if you include everything in the category, most of which is education, but it also includes items that are not education.

We rate Axelrod's claim Mostly True.

PolitiFact | Obama adviser Axelrod says Republican want deep education cuts

Start by going state by state and you will find that everywhere Republicans have taken control of the state legislature, they slashed funding for education. Think people. Why would they do this?

HELENA — The Republican majority on an education subcommittee on Thursday cut $4 million in proposed state funding for programs such as those for gifted and talented students and providing vocational education, a move that jeopardizes an equivalent amount of federal money.

Education subcommittee Republicans cut school funding

Stop sugar-coating the education cuts

To downplay the impact that devastating budget cuts will have on higher education and the state's students, Republicans have had to employ some tortured logic.

Concord Monitor

Gov. Rick Scott's proposed education budget: $1.75 billion in cuts

Thousands gather in Michigan to oppose education cuts

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Why stop at four. Every state Republicans have taken over, they've slashed funding for education. Why? Simple. An ignorant population is easier to control. That's all there is to it.

When it comes to power or what's best for America, Republicans believe they're being in power IS what's best for America. What ever the cost.

And finally, the worst possible thing they could do is replace education with nothing. Which is exactly what they propose. Oh, and make children assistant janitors. Shameful.

 

[Truthmatters]

That is right in line with the norquest plan

 

[Truthmatters]

“My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.”


http://thinkexist.com/quotes/grover_norquist/

 

[rdean]

“My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.”


Grover Norquist quotes

Considering this Republican Party is so old, in 25 years, the current majority will probably be gone or thanking God every day for Medicare.

 

[syrenn]

Because Budget Resolution 34 doesn't include detailed breakdowns of Function 500 spending reductions, it's impossible to determine exactly how much of the cuts are proposed to come out of the education budget. Further, the plan itself, in resolution form, does not dictate exact spending levels, but instead sets the maximum amount that can be spent. Congressional committees and floor votes determine the rest.

Still, because education spending makes up such a large proportion of the total Function 500 costs – over 90 percent – it's safe to assume most of the cuts from this category would come from education.

With that in mind, the percentages don't lie. The Ryan budget proposal included more than 25 percent funding cuts every year between 2016 and 2021, and it proposed a total 24 percent funding cut between 2012 and 2021, within range of Axelrod’s 25 percent figure. Axelrod's figures are correct if you include everything in the category, most of which is education, but it also includes items that are not education.

We rate Axelrod's claim Mostly True.

PolitiFact | Obama adviser Axelrod says Republican want deep education cuts

Start by going state by state and you will find that everywhere Republicans have taken control of the state legislature, they slashed funding for education. Think people. Why would they do this?

HELENA — The Republican majority on an education subcommittee on Thursday cut $4 million in proposed state funding for programs such as those for gifted and talented students and providing vocational education, a move that jeopardizes an equivalent amount of federal money.

Education subcommittee Republicans cut school funding

Stop sugar-coating the education cuts

To downplay the impact that devastating budget cuts will have on higher education and the state's students, Republicans have had to employ some tortured logic.

Concord Monitor

Gov. Rick Scott's proposed education budget: $1.75 billion in cuts

Thousands gather in Michigan to oppose education cuts

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Why stop at four. Every state Republicans have taken over, they've slashed funding for education. Why? Simple. An ignorant population is easier to control. That's all there is to it.

When it comes to power or what's best for America, Republicans believe they're being in power IS what's best for America. What ever the cost.

And finally, the worst possible thing they could do is replace education with nothing. Which is exactly what they propose. Oh, and make children assistant janitors. Shameful.

My guess the fastest way to cut education 25% without cutting anything from anyone would be requiring prof of citizenship to get the education.

 

[old navy]

My guess the fastest way to cut education 25% without cutting anything from anyone would be requiring prof of citizenship to get the education.[/COLOR]

Not a bad idea. The only thing required to enroll in school right now is an immunization record and proof of address.

There is plenty of room for cuts in education budgets. All agencies and departments should take on part of the burden in controlling the out of control government spending.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

State of Oregon required birth certificate or copy of the visa when I enrolled my kids.

It might vary from state to state.

Now the deal is, this is an agreement reached by congress during the last scam crisis the Obama perpetrated. This was the resolution. If the super committee failed, then this would be the result. The Democrats sabotaged the super committee, it failed, so this is now the Republicans' fault?

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

“My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.”


Grover Norquist quotes

That will work out great so long as none of our enemies can get access to a bath tub and some water.


Hey why don't we just give up on civilization entirely?

 

[rdean]

That's it? Cuts are good if we can figure out ways of denying education to children of illegal immigrants?

Why can't Republicans figure out ways of building things up instead of just tearing them down? Are they so burned by their disaster in Iraq? They want to rebuild that country. Spend hundreds of billions to create a friend for Iran. But do nothing here. al Qaeda loves it.

They can't figure any way to help the economy besides give bribes to rich people, whether it's tax cuts or subsidies, they amount to bribes.

 

[rdean]

“My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.”


Grover Norquist quotes

That will work out great so long as none of our enemies can get access to a bath tub and some water.


Hey why don't we just give up on civilization entirely?

Which of course, is why Republicans are slashing education. "Every man for himself".

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Why can't Republicans figure out ways of building things up instead of just tearing them down?

Because Republicans like breaking stuff. They LIKE going to war. They LIKE taking down economies. They LIKE it when poor people and the middle class have less of anything you can name (education, health care, etc.)

 

[rdean]

Why can't Republicans figure out ways of building things up instead of just tearing them down?

Because Republicans like breaking stuff. They LIKE going to war. They LIKE taking down economies. They LIKE it when poor people and the middle class have less of anything you can name (education, health care, etc.)

I know.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

There is ZERO authority in the Constitution for social programs or for Education both should be removed from the Federal Budget. Both are State responsibilities.

 

[MeBelle]

“My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.”


Grover Norquist quotes

That will work out great so long as none of our enemies can get access to a bath tub and some water.


Hey why don't we just give up on civilization entirely?

Which of course, is why Republicans are slashing education. "Every man for himself".

Guess thats what happens when STIM funds run out!

"Federal stimulus money approved by Congress when the Democrats were in control helped during the heart of the recession, delaying layoffs of teachers and police officers while moderating cuts to Medicaid and other public health programs. Some states raised taxes and fees and tapped their rainy-day funds."

BROKEN BUDGET: State revenue rises, but not enough to offset cuts - Columbia Missourian

Dam those democrats tooo!

State Budget 2011-12 - California Teachers Association

California....

How come TruthMatters isn't screaming about California cutting education?


States' revenue is expected to rise, but not enough to offset budget cuts | cleveland.com

Washington state is considering similar cuts to cope with its shortfall, including shortening its school year, eliminating medical programs for 55,000 low-income residents and letting some low- and moderate-risk offenders out of prison early.

Missouri is reducing funding for elementary and secondary education to close a mid-year budget deficit tied to tornado recovery. North Carolina Gov. Beverly Perdue, a Democrat, is warning of thousands of teacher layoffs next fall because federal aid to local school districts is running out.

In Colorado, Gov. John Hickenlooper has proposed deep cuts to K-12 funding and higher education, largely because of a spike in Medicaid enrollment.

"This doesn't make us happy," said Hickenlooper, a Democrat. "I don't see a way to get around it."


Illinois Budget Crisis 2010: Big Cuts Coming For Schools, Police, Child Care
Illinois!


Massachusetts:
Reducing state aid by $65 million.
Shedding as many as 900 jobs, adding to the 5,900 eliminated since late 2008
Eliminating employment services for those on transitional assistance
Cutting benefits for those enrolled in MassHealth, the state's Medicaid program
Slashing $23 million in spending on emergency homeless shelters

All those poor people getting poorer, kicking people into the streets.
NO health insurance...or rationed at best.
Cuttings JOBS!! I thought government CREATED jobs, not cut them!

 

[syrenn]

That's it? Cuts are good if we can figure out ways of denying education to children of illegal immigrants?

Why can't Republicans figure out ways of building things up instead of just tearing them down? Are they so burned by their disaster in Iraq? They want to rebuild that country. Spend hundreds of billions to create a friend for Iran. But do nothing here. al Qaeda loves it.

They can't figure any way to help the economy besides give bribes to rich people, whether it's tax cuts or subsidies, they amount to bribes.

As i said.... my guess no education cuts would be necessary if money was not wasted on illegals. How hard was that to grasp?

 

[PredFan]

The US spends the 2nd most (as a ratio to GDP) of all countries on earth and yet our children are progressively falling behind in education.

Throwing money at the problem hasn't worked and might actually be the problem. Slash education, our kids can't get any dumber than government schools are already making them.

 

[code1211]

That's it? Cuts are good if we can figure out ways of denying education to children of illegal immigrants?

Why can't Republicans figure out ways of building things up instead of just tearing them down? Are they so burned by their disaster in Iraq? They want to rebuild that country. Spend hundreds of billions to create a friend for Iran. But do nothing here. al Qaeda loves it.

They can't figure any way to help the economy besides give bribes to rich people, whether it's tax cuts or subsidies, they amount to bribes.

If you're talking about funding to public schools by the feds, you're talking about a cut of 25% of 7% for a total reduction in the overall subsidization of 1.75%.

Can you never accurately describe what it is you're tailing about?

Hyperbole is not a good thing when it serves to completely hide the meaning of the thing discussed.This is how the Dems always use hyperbole.

 

[code1211]

The US spends the 2nd most (as a ratio to GDP) of all countries on earth and yet our children are progressively falling behind in education.

Throwing money at the problem hasn't worked and might actually be the problem. Slash education, our kids can't get any dumber than government schools are already making them.

If any foreign power had done to our education system what the Department of Education has done to it, it would be considered an act of war.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

That will work out great so long as none of our enemies can get access to a bath tub and some water.


Hey why don't we just give up on civilization entirely?

Which of course, is why Republicans are slashing education. "Every man for himself".

Guess thats what happens when STIM funds run out!

"Federal stimulus money approved by Congress when the Democrats were in control helped during the heart of the recession, delaying layoffs of teachers and police officers while moderating cuts to Medicaid and other public health programs. Some states raised taxes and fees and tapped their rainy-day funds."

BROKEN BUDGET: State revenue rises, but not enough to offset cuts - Columbia Missourian

Dam those democrats tooo!

State Budget 2011-12 - California Teachers Association

California....

How come TruthMatters isn't screaming about California cutting education?


States' revenue is expected to rise, but not enough to offset budget cuts | cleveland.com

Washington state is considering similar cuts to cope with its shortfall, including shortening its school year, eliminating medical programs for 55,000 low-income residents and letting some low- and moderate-risk offenders out of prison early.

Missouri is reducing funding for elementary and secondary education to close a mid-year budget deficit tied to tornado recovery. North Carolina Gov. Beverly Perdue, a Democrat, is warning of thousands of teacher layoffs next fall because federal aid to local school districts is running out.

In Colorado, Gov. John Hickenlooper has proposed deep cuts to K-12 funding and higher education, largely because of a spike in Medicaid enrollment.

"This doesn't make us happy," said Hickenlooper, a Democrat. "I don't see a way to get around it."


Illinois Budget Crisis 2010: Big Cuts Coming For Schools, Police, Child Care
Illinois!


Massachusetts:
Reducing state aid by $65 million.
Shedding as many as 900 jobs, adding to the 5,900 eliminated since late 2008
Eliminating employment services for those on transitional assistance
Cutting benefits for those enrolled in MassHealth, the state's Medicaid program
Slashing $23 million in spending on emergency homeless shelters

All those poor people getting poorer, kicking people into the streets.
NO health insurance...or rationed at best.
Cuttings JOBS!! I thought government CREATED jobs, not cut them!

It is DIFFERENT when Dems cut, they just are looking out for the majority of course. I know for a fact Washington Massachusetts and California are run by Dems.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Education has failed America look at how fucked up our government is and how most Americans are complacent when obama signed the NDAA 2012 into law on Dec. 31 2011