Republicans trying to push us into worse war than Iraq

[rdean]

If Bush had just gone into Afghanistan, taken out Bin Laden and the al Qaeda leaders, then left, it would all be over. Bush would be a hero and America avenged. Muslims would understand so fresh after 9/11.

Instead, he invaded Iraq for oil. For fucking oil. And don't think for a second the entire Arab world doesn't know that.

He let Bin Laden go so Bin Laden could continue to grow al Qaeda and spread their terror across the globe.

This explosion of anti American sentiment is the result of the unlawful invasion of Iraq and the decade long war in Afghanistan.

And look at what has Obama has been doing to Iran. The strongest sanctions even many Republicans have said they have ever seen. And Obama set back their nuclear program years with computer viruses. What an incredibly smart covert attack. I wonder how many Republicans say that's Bush's idea?

Have you noticed how many successes the Bush administration has had since Obama came into office? Because Republicans feel it has to be Bush, it can't be Obama.

And now we have Israel trying to set our foreign policy and Republicans agreeing? How can that not be insane? Tiny Israel trying to force American foreign policy?

And look at where we are at. Two unpaid for wars. Trillions in debt. A worn out and undermanned military. It's one thing to get middle class and poor children to go to war when they think they are protecting the country, but another to get them to join for a "war of choice". And Mitt's 5 sons didn't join before, they certainly won't join now. America would never agree to a draft, not now. Not for this. So where do more troops come from?

And with Republicans refusing a tax hike on the wealthy, who pays for it?

This is the problem when Republicans chant "War War War", they don't see beyond the fun and excitement of those first exploding bombs.

"We Won"
"Mission Accomplished"​

 

[Pinocchio]

Talking tough just to get elected or reelected doesn't impress most people.

Its like a game of chess, think long term strategy, position and save your best pieces to win the game.

 

[Warrior102]

Instead, he invaded Iraq for oil. For fucking oil. And don't think for a second the entire Arab world doesn't know that.

Really?

I just filled up. $56.00

Is Bush using all the oil he invaded for personally?

Fucking imbecile.

 

[ba1614]

Instead, he invaded Iraq for oil. For fucking oil. And don't think for a second the entire Arab world doesn't know that.

Really?

I just filled up. $56.00

Is Bush using all the oil he invaded for personally?

Fucking imbecile.

It won't be long that won't even fill the bike in your picture

 

[Old Rocks]

Now Warts, you can blame the worldwide thirst for petroleum products for that. A free market, you know. After all, we are exporting gasoline and diesel by the tanker load, and if you don't want to pay that price, someone in Asia or South America does.

 

[Contumacious]

If Bush had just gone into Afghanistan, taken out Bin Laden and the al Qaeda leaders, then left, it would all be over. Bush would be a hero and America avenged. Muslims would understand so fresh after 9/11.

Yo Vern, your boy Obama has been the Prez for 3 years, we are still in the area and he is expanding the War to Pakistan.

Instead, he invaded Iraq for oil. For fucking oil. And don't think for a second the entire Arab world doesn't know that.

Wrong again. We invaded Iraq in order to obey the zionists command:


Iraq War Launched to Protect Israel - Bush Adviser

.

 

[Truthmatters]

Bush gave us many revolving reasons why they attacked Iraq

 

[Lakhota]

Both Bush presidents deceived Iraq and the world regarding Iraq:

Bush 41 suckered Saddam by giving him the "green light" to invade Kuwait, then Bush 41 attacked Iraq.

Bush 43 manufactured lies to invade Iraq.

The "Green Light" Meeting: Is the US State Department still keeping April Glaspie under wraps?

 

[buckeye45_73]

Both Bush presidents deceived Iraq and the world regarding Iraq:

Bush 41 suckered Saddam by giving him the "green light" to invade Kuwait, then Bush 41 attacked Iraq.

Bush 43 manufactured lies to invade Iraq.

The "Green Light" Meeting: Is the US State Department still keeping April Glaspie under wraps?

You never stop being an idiot, you are consistant. And you attack other people's sources, wtf is this source? Hackhota is a tin foil hatter and a truther as well, you are a tool.

 

[U2Edge]

If Bush had just gone into Afghanistan, taken out Bin Laden and the al Qaeda leaders, then left, it would all be over. Bush would be a hero and America avenged. Muslims would understand so fresh after 9/11.

Instead, he invaded Iraq for oil. For fucking oil. And don't think for a second the entire Arab world doesn't know that.

He let Bin Laden go so Bin Laden could continue to grow al Qaeda and spread their terror across the globe.

This explosion of anti American sentiment is the result of the unlawful invasion of Iraq and the decade long war in Afghanistan.

And look at what has Obama has been doing to Iran. The strongest sanctions even many Republicans have said they have ever seen. And Obama set back their nuclear program years with computer viruses. What an incredibly smart covert attack. I wonder how many Republicans say that's Bush's idea?

Have you noticed how many successes the Bush administration has had since Obama came into office? Because Republicans feel it has to be Bush, it can't be Obama.

And now we have Israel trying to set our foreign policy and Republicans agreeing? How can that not be insane? Tiny Israel trying to force American foreign policy?

And look at where we are at. Two unpaid for wars. Trillions in debt. A worn out and undermanned military. It's one thing to get middle class and poor children to go to war when they think they are protecting the country, but another to get them to join for a "war of choice". And Mitt's 5 sons didn't join before, they certainly won't join now. America would never agree to a draft, not now. Not for this. So where do more troops come from?

And with Republicans refusing a tax hike on the wealthy, who pays for it?

This is the problem when Republicans chant "War War War", they don't see beyond the fun and excitement of those first exploding bombs.

"We Won"
"Mission Accomplished"​

1. Saddam Hussein and the threat he posed to the Persian Gulf and the rest of the planet is something seperate from Afghanistan and terrorism that had to be dealt with.

2. The United States and the world are dependent on Persian Gulf oil, not just for supply, but more importantly because of the impact Persian Gulf oil has on the global market price of oil.

3. This is why the United States went to war against Saddam in 1991 after his invasion of Kuwait. The oil in Saudi Arabia must be protected from siezure and or sabotage by hostile forces like Saddam because of the impact such siezure and sabotage would have on global energy prices and then the global economy.

4. The United States and its allies successfully removed Saddam from Kuwait in 1991 and instead of marching to Baghdad decided on the cheaper option of containing Saddam instead of removing him with the belief that his defeat in the 1991 Gulf War and the ensuing containment regime would force his collapse within 5 years.

5. Unfortunately, Saddam did not collapse. The sanctions and weapons embargo, key elements of the containment regime, were able to be maintained for several years. But starting in 1998, the containment regime around Saddam started to fall apart.

6. Because of various countries own economic interest. Several of Iraq's neighbors and even members of the UN Security Council began to violate the sanctions put in place to try and keep Saddam contained.

7. UN Weapons inspectors were thrown out of Iraq in 1998, and large scale bombing by the United States during the Clinton Administration failed to bring their return to the country.

8. By the year 2000, Saddam was successfully selling oil through the black market and starting to make billions. Sanctions and the weapons embargo kept on eroding.

9. Without the sanctions and weapons embargo, the containment regime had essentially collapsed by 2002. Without containment the only other option for dealing with Saddam and protecting the vital oil supply of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, was regime change.

10. This is why removing Saddam in 2003 was a necessity, independent of thoughts about terrorism or even his alledged progress or lack there of when it came to renewing and building WMD.

Saddam had to be removed although for different reasons than why Al Quada and the Taliban had to be removed from Afghanistan. Both wars were necessary and the United States did not have the luxury of prosecuting one while waiting to engage in the other. The real world requires one to deal with threats to one's security simultanously. You can't carefully handle one threat at a time. Such luxury's don't exist in the real world.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Both Bush presidents deceived Iraq and the world regarding Iraq:

Bush 41 suckered Saddam by giving him the "green light" to invade Kuwait, then Bush 41 attacked Iraq.

Bush 43 manufactured lies to invade Iraq.

The "Green Light" Meeting: Is the US State Department still keeping April Glaspie under wraps?

You never stop being an idiot, you are consistant. And you attack other people's sources, wtf is this source? Hackhota is a tin foil hatter and a truther as well, you are a tool.

Did you really expect FoxNews or MSLSD to report that?
There's a better summary of events leading up to the Kuwait invasion here:
Ex-Envoy Details Hussein Meeting

 

[U2Edge]

LOL, no one was given a green light to invade Kuwait. This just pure rubbish cooked up by Saddam and supported by some liberals.

Saddam invaded and overrun Kuwait in 12 hours on August 2, 1990. He ordered to withdraw and instead annexed the country. Thats right, Saddam not only invaded Kuwait, he annexed the country. The first time any country has annexed another independent state wiping it from the map since Hitler did in World War II!

 

[Katzndogz]

No April Glaspie actually did give a green light. She said that the United States had no interest in resolving territorial disputes.

 

[IHBF]

Google: "A Clean Break"

Look at the criticisms section on the wiki page (notice two Jews are cited).

This plan has been going on since 1996.

 

[grunt11b]

If Bush had just gone into Afghanistan, taken out Bin Laden and the al Qaeda leaders, then left, it would all be over. Bush would be a hero and America avenged. Muslims would understand so fresh after 9/11.

Instead, he invaded Iraq for oil. For fucking oil. And don't think for a second the entire Arab world doesn't know that.

If he did it for oil, why are we paying $4 a gallon at the pump? We have yet to recieve one ounce of oil from Iraq, and dont forget the part where just about ever democrat supported the war in Iraq.

He let Bin Laden go so Bin Laden could continue to grow al Qaeda and spread their terror across the globe.

That was Clinton in the 90's. Do some research and then explain to me why Clinton let him go.

This explosion of anti American sentiment is the result of the unlawful invasion of Iraq and the decade long war in Afghanistan.

The what was the excuse for 9/11? And before that what was the excuse for the world trade center bombings in the early 90's?

And look at what has Obama has been doing to Iran. The strongest sanctions even many Republicans have said they have ever seen. And Obama set back their nuclear program years with computer viruses. What an incredibly smart covert attack. I wonder how many Republicans say that's Bush's idea?

Israel launched the virus that took down Irans Nuclear program, not Obama, are you really drinking that much koolaid? You have got to be ready to come crashing down on that sugar high by now.

Have you noticed how many successes the Bush administration has had since Obama came into office? Because Republicans feel it has to be Bush, it can't be Obama.

The policies Obama was against are the ones that got the information that led to Bin Laden, that is a fact...you are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.

And now we have Israel trying to set our foreign policy and Republicans agreeing? How can that not be insane? Tiny Israel trying to force American foreign policy?

Says who?

And look at where we are at. Two unpaid for wars. Trillions in debt. A worn out and undermanned military. It's one thing to get middle class and poor children to go to war when they think they are protecting the country, but another to get them to join for a "war of choice". And Mitt's 5 sons didn't join before, they certainly won't join now. America would never agree to a draft, not now. Not for this. So where do more troops come from?

You can always sign up, instead of sitting back here and bitching and moaning about "The ones" failure to withdrawal troops within the time frame that he set himself. And dont be fooled, the Iraq withdrawal was a Bush time line also.

And with Republicans refusing a tax hike on the wealthy, who pays for it?

Lower taxes and lower corporate taxes have shown to increase Federal revenue twice as fast as increased taxes. Of course you wouldn't know this because your head is stuck so far up Obamas ass there is just no way for you to learn any different. Also, have you ever heard of "Equal treatment under the law?" that includes tax laws as well.

This is the problem when Republicans chant "War War War", they don't see beyond the fun and excitement of those first exploding bombs.

Iraq and Afghanistan is the first wars Republicans ever started, if you knew your history you would know that every war leading up to these ones "Outside of Desert Storm" have all been started by democrats.

"We Won"
"Mission Accomplished"​

Learn up on your history dumbass.

 

[auditor0007]

If Bush had just gone into Afghanistan, taken out Bin Laden and the al Qaeda leaders, then left, it would all be over. Bush would be a hero and America avenged. Muslims would understand so fresh after 9/11.

Instead, he invaded Iraq for oil. For fucking oil. And don't think for a second the entire Arab world doesn't know that.

He let Bin Laden go so Bin Laden could continue to grow al Qaeda and spread their terror across the globe.

This explosion of anti American sentiment is the result of the unlawful invasion of Iraq and the decade long war in Afghanistan.

And look at what has Obama has been doing to Iran. The strongest sanctions even many Republicans have said they have ever seen. And Obama set back their nuclear program years with computer viruses. What an incredibly smart covert attack. I wonder how many Republicans say that's Bush's idea?

Have you noticed how many successes the Bush administration has had since Obama came into office? Because Republicans feel it has to be Bush, it can't be Obama.

And now we have Israel trying to set our foreign policy and Republicans agreeing? How can that not be insane? Tiny Israel trying to force American foreign policy?

And look at where we are at. Two unpaid for wars. Trillions in debt. A worn out and undermanned military. It's one thing to get middle class and poor children to go to war when they think they are protecting the country, but another to get them to join for a "war of choice". And Mitt's 5 sons didn't join before, they certainly won't join now. America would never agree to a draft, not now. Not for this. So where do more troops come from?

And with Republicans refusing a tax hike on the wealthy, who pays for it?

This is the problem when Republicans chant "War War War", they don't see beyond the fun and excitement of those first exploding bombs.

"We Won"
"Mission Accomplished"​

Sorry Rdean, you can make a good argument for everything Bush did wrong in going to war with Iraq, but saying "Bush let Bin Laden go so he could continue to grow Al Qaeda" is just a ridiculous statement and one you should rethink. When you make arguments against people or ideas, you need to make certain that your entire argument makes sense, otherwise you relegate yourself to the fringe element.

 

[Avatar4321]

Bush gave us many revolving reasons why they attacked Iraq

So you admit that there were and always have been multiple reasons for Iraq and that rdean is completely lying here.

 

[Avatar4321]

Can someone please remind me who was the President who bombed Libya last year? I dont think that it was George W Bush. And Im pretty sure that has much more relevance on the Libyan attacks on our Consulate than Iraq does. I mean, what do you think the Libyans are more upset about, the Iraq government being overthrown or their families being bombed by air strikes?

And can someone remind me who was the President stiring up the Muslim demonstrators in last years "Arab Spring"? Who is the President trying to appease mobs by going after someone's free speech?

Who exactly is President now? Where does the Buck stop, there or on the Republicans?

And finally, who exactly is sending Warships to the region? The President or the Republicans?

 

[Avatar4321]

Sorry Rdean, you can make a good argument for everything Bush did wrong in going to war with Iraq, but saying "Bush let Bin Laden go so he could continue to grow Al Qaeda" is just a ridiculous statement and one you should rethink. When you make arguments against people or ideas, you need to make certain that your entire argument makes sense, otherwise you relegate yourself to the fringe element.

He can't help himself

 

[GoneBezerk]

The welfare crack queen is on her posting binge.....