Republicans : The party of NO answers

[wihosa]

More dishonesty, since no one ever asserted any such thing.

Partisan hacks like you wear blinders purposely, and/or are simply dishonest. But you know that.

Let's not pretend that it was the Dems who wanted this war. Yes many went along with it because Bush and Co. were hammering them politcally, questioning their patiotism and such. But it was the Repubs who wanted this war, Bush and his gang were out there every day scaring and lying the public into war.

By the way, is it un-patriotic, at a time of war (yes, it is still a time of war) to hope for the failure of our President, who by the way is the Commander in Chief?

Just wondering...

you have a very poor memory
there were dems that wanted it
they voted for it

It's not my memory that is lacking, it's your inability to read my post that is confusing you.

It was not Dems out there everyday mongering for war, it was the Repubs. The vast majority of votes against the war came from Dems. In fact I can't think of a single Repub who voted against it, though there may have been one or two.

I also can't remember any Dems who were out front and in favor of the war, most who voted for the authorization went to great leangths to explain that they were only voting for authorization in order to give the President the leverage he deeded to force Hussein to disarm (see the speach John Kerry gave at the time of the vote).

Dems did vote for the authorization, but it was Bush who wanted his war and the Repubs were more than happy to follow him for the politcal power they accrued in the process.

 

[DiveCon]

Let's not pretend that it was the Dems who wanted this war. Yes many went along with it because Bush and Co. were hammering them politcally, questioning their patiotism and such. But it was the Repubs who wanted this war, Bush and his gang were out there every day scaring and lying the public into war.

By the way, is it un-patriotic, at a time of war (yes, it is still a time of war) to hope for the failure of our President, who by the way is the Commander in Chief?

Just wondering...

you have a very poor memory
there were dems that wanted it
they voted for it

It's not my memory that is lacking, it's your inability to read my post that is confusing you.

It was not Dems out there everyday mongering for war, it was the Repubs. The vast majority of votes against the war came from Dems. In fact I can't think of a single Repub who voted against it, though there may have been one or two.

I also can't remember any Dems who were out front and in favor of the war, most who voted for the authorization went to great leangths to explain that they were only voting for authorization in order to give the President the leverage he deeded to force Hussein to disarm (see the speach John Kerry gave at the time of the vote).

Dems did vote for the authorization, but it was Bush who wanted his war and the Repubs were more than happy to follow him for the politcal power they accrued in the process.

well again, you are wrong
BUsh didnt WANT the war
he believe it was needed
there is a difference
and as i recall, thats how many of the dems felt as well
yeah, there were morons like Kerry that didnt
but there were dems that actually supported it

 

[wihosa]

Why did Bush kick out the weapons inspectors and launch a war?

He wanted his war and weapons inspectors not finding WMD was certainly not going to stop him from starting it.

You on the right will have to live with the shame of this blunder.

Now let's get back to the premise of this thread, what have Repubs got to offer other than NO!

 

[DiveCon]

Why did Bush kick out the weapons inspectors and launch a war?

He wanted his war and weapons inspectors not finding WMD was certainly not going to stop him from starting it.

You on the right will have to live with the shame of this blunder.

Now let's get back to the premise of this thread, what have Repubs got to offer other than NO!

you are a fucking moron
you clearly only want to use talking points
keep showing you are too fucking ignorant to have a discussion
i read you correctly the first time

 

[Shogun]

mobile chemical weapons labs, dive. Bush wanted war and no amount of retrofitting history will make all the fun quotes pre-war any less real.

 

[wihosa]

Why did Bush kick out the weapons inspectors and launch a war?

He wanted his war and weapons inspectors not finding WMD was certainly not going to stop him from starting it.

You on the right will have to live with the shame of this blunder.

Now let's get back to the premise of this thread, what have Repubs got to offer other than NO!

you are a fucking moron
you clearly only want to use talking points
keep showing you are too fucking ignorant to have a discussion
i read you correctly the first time

Well since I'm too moronic to understand why don't you enlighten me, who kicked out the weapons inspector?

 

[WillowTree]

Why did Bush kick out the weapons inspectors and launch a war?

He wanted his war and weapons inspectors not finding WMD was certainly not going to stop him from starting it.

You on the right will have to live with the shame of this blunder.

Now let's get back to the premise of this thread, what have Repubs got to offer other than NO!

you are a fucking moron
you clearly only want to use talking points
keep showing you are too fucking ignorant to have a discussion
i read you correctly the first time

Well since I'm too moronic to understand why don't you enlighten me, who kicked out the weapons inspector?

Saddam did about fifty fucking times, not to mention he broke every single solitary sanction placed against him since he got his azz handed to him after the war in Kuwait.. He had every chance in the world to prove he had no WMD and he chose instead to play cat and mouse. You DUmmies are just too DUmb!

 

[DiveCon]

you are a fucking moron
you clearly only want to use talking points
keep showing you are too fucking ignorant to have a discussion
i read you correctly the first time

Well since I'm too moronic to understand why don't you enlighten me, who kicked out the weapons inspector?

Saddam did about fifty fucking times, not to mention he broke every single solitary sanction placed against him since he got his azz handed to him after the war in Kuwait.. He had every chance in the world to prove he had no WMD and he chose instead to play cat and mouse. You DUmmies are just too DUmb!

you just cant fix stupid

 

[wihosa]

Sorry Dive,
Its was Bush who recalled the weapons inspectors, you just can't change history

 

[WillowTree]

Sorry Dive,
Its was Bush who recalled the weapons inspectors, you just can't change history

You drink at the fountain of KOS doncha?? Nope! Dive is right you are stuck on stupid!

 

[DiveCon]

Sorry Dive,
Its was Bush who recalled the weapons inspectors, you just can't change history

you are sorry
what was he supposed to do, leave them there when the figting started
he recalled them for their own safety

 

[wihosa]

Sorry Dive,
Its was Bush who recalled the weapons inspectors, you just can't change history

you are sorry
what was he supposed to do, leave them there when the figting started
he recalled them for their own safety

No what he was suppossed to do was beleive them when they told him they weren't finding any WMD.

But of course that isn't what he wanted to hear because he wanted his war.

I suppose you believed the FOX News stories that the Iraqis were sneaking the WMD out the back door while the weapons inspectors were knocking on the front door.

And then Hussein smuggled the WMD out of the country into Syria because Hussein wouldn't care about arming one of his adversaries and of course Syria wouldn't care if they were suddenly in the cross hairs of the US.

And of course, Hussein was so clever that he could gather up all the WMD and sneak them out of the country but for some reason he couldn't sneak either his sons or himself out of the country...

Logic is not one of the Bush defenders strong suits.

 

[DiveCon]

Sorry Dive,
Its was Bush who recalled the weapons inspectors, you just can't change history

you are sorry
what was he supposed to do, leave them there when the figting started
he recalled them for their own safety

No what he was suppossed to do was beleive them when they told him they weren't finding any WMD.

But of course that isn't what he wanted to hear because he wanted his war.

I suppose you believed the FOX News stories that the Iraqis were sneaking the WMD out the back door while the weapons inspectors were knocking on the front door.

And then Hussein smuggled the WMD out of the country into Syria because Hussein wouldn't care about arming one of his adversaries and of course Syria wouldn't care if they were suddenly in the cross hairs of the US.

And of course, Hussein was so clever that he could gather up all the WMD and sneak them out of the country but for some reason he couldn't sneak either his sons or himself out of the country...

Logic is not one of the Bush defenders strong suits.

they never said any such thing


and i can see with your moronic anti-Fox News diatribe you are the fucking moron i think you are

 

[wihosa]

you are sorry
what was he supposed to do, leave them there when the figting started
he recalled them for their own safety

No what he was suppossed to do was beleive them when they told him they weren't finding any WMD.

But of course that isn't what he wanted to hear because he wanted his war.

I suppose you believed the FOX News stories that the Iraqis were sneaking the WMD out the back door while the weapons inspectors were knocking on the front door.

And then Hussein smuggled the WMD out of the country into Syria because Hussein wouldn't care about arming one of his adversaries and of course Syria wouldn't care if they were suddenly in the cross hairs of the US.

And of course, Hussein was so clever that he could gather up all the WMD and sneak them out of the country but for some reason he couldn't sneak either his sons or himself out of the country...

Logic is not one of the Bush defenders strong suits.

they never said any such thing


and i can see with your moronic anti-Fox News diatribe you are the fucking moron i think you are

Oh yes they did. Hannity went for days about how all the WMD were sneaked out of the country and smuggled into Syria. And at the time the inspectors were on the ground Fox News speculated that the Iraqis were stalling the inspectors while they hid or removed the weapons from the premises.

You just can't change history.

And I can see by your flailing invectives that you have no argument to make.

 

[DiveCon]

No what he was suppossed to do was beleive them when they told him they weren't finding any WMD.

But of course that isn't what he wanted to hear because he wanted his war.

I suppose you believed the FOX News stories that the Iraqis were sneaking the WMD out the back door while the weapons inspectors were knocking on the front door.

And then Hussein smuggled the WMD out of the country into Syria because Hussein wouldn't care about arming one of his adversaries and of course Syria wouldn't care if they were suddenly in the cross hairs of the US.

And of course, Hussein was so clever that he could gather up all the WMD and sneak them out of the country but for some reason he couldn't sneak either his sons or himself out of the country...

Logic is not one of the Bush defenders strong suits.

they never said any such thing


and i can see with your moronic anti-Fox News diatribe you are the fucking moron i think you are

Oh yes they did. Hannity went for days about how all the WMD were sneaked out of the country and smuggled into Syria. And at the time the inspectors were on the ground Fox News speculated that the Iraqis were stalling the inspectors while they hid or removed the weapons from the premises.

You just can't change history.

And I can see by your flailing invectives that you have no argument to make.

SQUAWK SQUAWK FOX NEWS SQUAWK SQUAWK



moron

 

[wihosa]

And I can see by your flailing invectives that you have no argument to make.

 

[DiveCon]

And I can see by your flailing invectives that you have no argument to make.

i dont waste time doing research for morons
have a nice day

 

[Meister]

No what he was suppossed to do was beleive them when they told him they weren't finding any WMD.

But of course that isn't what he wanted to hear because he wanted his war.

I suppose you believed the FOX News stories that the Iraqis were sneaking the WMD out the back door while the weapons inspectors were knocking on the front door.

And then Hussein smuggled the WMD out of the country into Syria because Hussein wouldn't care about arming one of his adversaries and of course Syria wouldn't care if they were suddenly in the cross hairs of the US.

And of course, Hussein was so clever that he could gather up all the WMD and sneak them out of the country but for some reason he couldn't sneak either his sons or himself out of the country...

Logic is not one of the Bush defenders strong suits.

they never said any such thing


and i can see with your moronic anti-Fox News diatribe you are the fucking moron i think you are

Oh yes they did. Hannity went for days about how all the WMD were sneaked out of the country and smuggled into Syria. And at the time the inspectors were on the ground Fox News speculated that the Iraqis were stalling the inspectors while they hid or removed the weapons from the premises.

You just can't change history.

And I can see by your flailing invectives that you have no argument to make.

Geeze Dubya, Hussein was stonewalling the inspectors for days on end before he would allow them back in....then kick them out again...then let them back in. Let's get the facts straight OK?
It was intell from other countries that said that they did have WMD's and that quite possibly they shipped them to Syria...Bush didn't come up with that. Let's again, get the facts straight.
Of coarse your going to tell us that he never used WMD's on his own people huh?
You just can't change history...asshole

 

[DiveCon]

they never said any such thing


and i can see with your moronic anti-Fox News diatribe you are the fucking moron i think you are

Oh yes they did. Hannity went for days about how all the WMD were sneaked out of the country and smuggled into Syria. And at the time the inspectors were on the ground Fox News speculated that the Iraqis were stalling the inspectors while they hid or removed the weapons from the premises.

You just can't change history.

And I can see by your flailing invectives that you have no argument to make.

Geeze Dubya, Hussein was stonewalling the inspectors for days on end before he would allow them back in....then kick them out again...then let them back in. Let's get the facts straight OK?
It was intell from other countries that said that they did have WMD's and that quite possibly they shipped them to Syria...Bush didn't come up with that. Let's again, get the facts straight.
Of coarse your going to tell us that he never used WMD's on his own people huh?
You just can't change history...asshole

you'll only confuse the fucking moron with facts
he doesnt know what he is talking about


he is still full up on ABDS
he shopuld seek out professional help for it

 

[Bern80]

2- The thing Republicans of the last 8 years did wrong was foolishly go to war

Again, you're not correct. It couldn't have happened without Dem support. And in fact, it was Dems who made it the law of our land to remove Saddam. And it was Dems, who for a decade insisted Saddam had WMDs:

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

And there are literally dozens of other such examples. But you get the drift.

And as far as it being a mistake? Hardly... We are now in control of the center of the chessboard which is the middle East. A ruthless mass murderer has been nicely done away with. IslamoNazis are on their heels everywhere. And it's only just started.

And there you have if folks!

The Repubs had absolutely nothing to do with STARTING A WAR!

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and the rest never taked about WMD and mushroom clouds.
Why if it hadn't been for all those Democrats on TV everyday scaring the public about Saddam Hussein we never would have invaded Iraq.

Yeah, that's the ticket!

Nice spin chicken shit. Where is stated here that Republicans had nothing to do with the war? The point being made here is obvious for anyone with a modicum of integrity to see and admit. Unfortunately hostory probably won't see the lefty politicians supporting this war than en-mass pretending they were against it as one of the most cowardly self-serving acts ever.