"Republicans should make hay now"

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It seems pretty clear that neither "major" party has yet figured out that an electoral victory is not a "mandate" to shove their entire agenda down our throats, and that an evenly divided nation should be governed as one if you want to remain in power.

Writer Jay Cost is a solid conservative and has words of warning for the GOP:

What Goes Up...

But if the Republican party were a publicly traded company, January 20 would be the day to sell, sell, sell. This may sound counter-intuitive, but the verdict of history is clear, if not quite unanimous: The moment a party achieves total control of the government is the moment just before power begins to slip through its fingers.

Usually, the downturn begins quickly. First the marginal members of the congressional coalition begin to waver in their loyalty, then the midterm revivifies a seemingly moribund opposition. While the incumbent party usually wins its first reelection bid for the White House (Jimmy Carter being the only exception in the last 125 years), the other side retains a substantial footprint in the government. Their numbers are usually strengthened in the second midterm—at which point they often gain control over Congress.

So Republicans would do well to make hay while the sun shines, for sooner or later it is going to set. Ironically, nobody furnishes a better example of how to make use of a fleeting majority than Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. Blessed with a supermajority during 2009-2010, they implemented many sweeping policy changes with impressive alacrity—as if they knew that the moment would soon pass. Indeed, it did. This one will, too. Republicans should make the most of it while it lasts.

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It seems pretty clear that neither "major" party has yet figured out that an electoral victory is not a "mandate" to shove their entire agenda down our throats, and that an evenly divided nation should be governed as one if you want to remain in power.

Writer Jay Cost is a solid conservative and has words of warning for the GOP:

What Goes Up...

But if the Republican party were a publicly traded company, January 20 would be the day to sell, sell, sell. This may sound counter-intuitive, but the verdict of history is clear, if not quite unanimous: The moment a party achieves total control of the government is the moment just before power begins to slip through its fingers.

Usually, the downturn begins quickly. First the marginal members of the congressional coalition begin to waver in their loyalty, then the midterm revivifies a seemingly moribund opposition. While the incumbent party usually wins its first reelection bid for the White House (Jimmy Carter being the only exception in the last 125 years), the other side retains a substantial footprint in the government. Their numbers are usually strengthened in the second midterm—at which point they often gain control over Congress.

So Republicans would do well to make hay while the sun shines, for sooner or later it is going to set. Ironically, nobody furnishes a better example of how to make use of a fleeting majority than Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. Blessed with a supermajority during 2009-2010, they implemented many sweeping policy changes with impressive alacrity—as if they knew that the moment would soon pass. Indeed, it did. This one will, too. Republicans should make the most of it while it lasts.

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so wingnuts should enact polices which the majority of the american public don't want?

that ought to keep the loons in power.

sure it will.
 
Time, and time, and time again, people's predictions using the old political models fail when it comes to Trump....

Trump simply does not give a fuck about the political establishment, and that makes all the difference...
 
It seems pretty clear that neither "major" party has yet figured out that an electoral victory is not a "mandate" to shove their entire agenda down our throats, and that an evenly divided nation should be governed as one if you want to remain in power.

Writer Jay Cost is a solid conservative and has words of warning for the GOP:

What Goes Up...

But if the Republican party were a publicly traded company, January 20 would be the day to sell, sell, sell. This may sound counter-intuitive, but the verdict of history is clear, if not quite unanimous: The moment a party achieves total control of the government is the moment just before power begins to slip through its fingers.

Usually, the downturn begins quickly. First the marginal members of the congressional coalition begin to waver in their loyalty, then the midterm revivifies a seemingly moribund opposition. While the incumbent party usually wins its first reelection bid for the White House (Jimmy Carter being the only exception in the last 125 years), the other side retains a substantial footprint in the government. Their numbers are usually strengthened in the second midterm—at which point they often gain control over Congress.

So Republicans would do well to make hay while the sun shines, for sooner or later it is going to set. Ironically, nobody furnishes a better example of how to make use of a fleeting majority than Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. Blessed with a supermajority during 2009-2010, they implemented many sweeping policy changes with impressive alacrity—as if they knew that the moment would soon pass. Indeed, it did. This one will, too. Republicans should make the most of it while it lasts.

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so wingnuts should enact polices which the majority of the american public don't want?

that ought to keep the loons in power.

sure it will.
No...we stopped you with our mandate....
 
It is one of those things that's easier said then done. Some may want grass hay while others won't settle for anything other than alfalfa hay. Conservatives haven't been much for compromise in quite a while.
 
It is one of those things that's easier said then done. Some may want grass hay while other won't settle for anything other than alfalfa hay. Conservatives haven't been much for compromise in quite a while.
I certainly don't expect the GOP to be careful here. They'll do everything they can to cram it all down our throats as quickly as possible.

There are two potential moderating influences: The more moderate, clear-thinking Republicans in Congress who remain, and Trump himself, who isn't actually a conservative to begin with.
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It is one of those things that's easier said then done. Some may want grass hay while others won't settle for anything other than alfalfa hay. Conservatives haven't been much for compromise in quite a while.
Compromise like Obamas pen, and Phone? I can't wait until he hands them to Trump....I can't wait for the fucking compromise to continue....:lol:
 
It seems pretty clear that neither "major" party has yet figured out that an electoral victory is not a "mandate" to shove their entire agenda down our throats, and that an evenly divided nation should be governed as one if you want to remain in power.

Writer Jay Cost is a solid conservative and has words of warning for the GOP:

What Goes Up...

But if the Republican party were a publicly traded company, January 20 would be the day to sell, sell, sell. This may sound counter-intuitive, but the verdict of history is clear, if not quite unanimous: The moment a party achieves total control of the government is the moment just before power begins to slip through its fingers.

Usually, the downturn begins quickly. First the marginal members of the congressional coalition begin to waver in their loyalty, then the midterm revivifies a seemingly moribund opposition. While the incumbent party usually wins its first reelection bid for the White House (Jimmy Carter being the only exception in the last 125 years), the other side retains a substantial footprint in the government. Their numbers are usually strengthened in the second midterm—at which point they often gain control over Congress.

So Republicans would do well to make hay while the sun shines, for sooner or later it is going to set. Ironically, nobody furnishes a better example of how to make use of a fleeting majority than Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. Blessed with a supermajority during 2009-2010, they implemented many sweeping policy changes with impressive alacrity—as if they knew that the moment would soon pass. Indeed, it did. This one will, too. Republicans should make the most of it while it lasts.

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The first thing that the GOP leadership will need to decide is whether to eliminate the supermajority requirement in the Senate for cloture.

But if they do it can come back to bite them when and if the DEM's take over in 2018.

Jobs is the only obvious mandate, and Trump has it, not the GOP.
 
It is one of those things that's easier said then done. Some may want grass hay while other won't settle for anything other than alfalfa hay. Conservatives haven't been much for compromise in quite a while.
I certainly don't expect the GOP to be careful here. They'll do everything they can to cram it all down our throats as quickly as possible.

There are two potential moderating influences: The more moderate, clear-thinking Republicans in Congress who remain, and Trump himself, who isn't actually a conservative to begin with.
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Trump and Schumer will be the moderating voices, unless McConnell eliminates the supermajority rule for cloture in the Senate, in which case the RINO, Trump, would then be the only voice of moderation.
 
It seems pretty clear that neither "major" party has yet figured out that an electoral victory is not a "mandate" to shove their entire agenda down our throats, and that an evenly divided nation should be governed as one if you want to remain in power.

Writer Jay Cost is a solid conservative and has words of warning for the GOP:

What Goes Up...

But if the Republican party were a publicly traded company, January 20 would be the day to sell, sell, sell. This may sound counter-intuitive, but the verdict of history is clear, if not quite unanimous: The moment a party achieves total control of the government is the moment just before power begins to slip through its fingers.

Usually, the downturn begins quickly. First the marginal members of the congressional coalition begin to waver in their loyalty, then the midterm revivifies a seemingly moribund opposition. While the incumbent party usually wins its first reelection bid for the White House (Jimmy Carter being the only exception in the last 125 years), the other side retains a substantial footprint in the government. Their numbers are usually strengthened in the second midterm—at which point they often gain control over Congress.

So Republicans would do well to make hay while the sun shines, for sooner or later it is going to set. Ironically, nobody furnishes a better example of how to make use of a fleeting majority than Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. Blessed with a supermajority during 2009-2010, they implemented many sweeping policy changes with impressive alacrity—as if they knew that the moment would soon pass. Indeed, it did. This one will, too. Republicans should make the most of it while it lasts.

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The first thing that the GOP leadership will need to decide is whether to eliminate the supermajority requirement in the Senate for cloture.

But if they do it can come back to bite them when and if the DEM's take over in 2018.

Jobs is the only obvious mandate, and Trump has it, not the GOP.
Yeah. My guess is that they'll eliminate the rule because of the way the Dems behaved.

Which, of course, will just make things worse. They did it first!!!
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It seems pretty clear that neither "major" party has yet figured out that an electoral victory is not a "mandate" to shove their entire agenda down our throats, and that an evenly divided nation should be governed as one if you want to remain in power.

Writer Jay Cost is a solid conservative and has words of warning for the GOP:

What Goes Up...

But if the Republican party were a publicly traded company, January 20 would be the day to sell, sell, sell. This may sound counter-intuitive, but the verdict of history is clear, if not quite unanimous: The moment a party achieves total control of the government is the moment just before power begins to slip through its fingers.

Usually, the downturn begins quickly. First the marginal members of the congressional coalition begin to waver in their loyalty, then the midterm revivifies a seemingly moribund opposition. While the incumbent party usually wins its first reelection bid for the White House (Jimmy Carter being the only exception in the last 125 years), the other side retains a substantial footprint in the government. Their numbers are usually strengthened in the second midterm—at which point they often gain control over Congress.

So Republicans would do well to make hay while the sun shines, for sooner or later it is going to set. Ironically, nobody furnishes a better example of how to make use of a fleeting majority than Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. Blessed with a supermajority during 2009-2010, they implemented many sweeping policy changes with impressive alacrity—as if they knew that the moment would soon pass. Indeed, it did. This one will, too. Republicans should make the most of it while it lasts.

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The first thing that the GOP leadership will need to decide is whether to eliminate the supermajority requirement in the Senate for cloture.

But if they do it can come back to bite them when and if the DEM's take over in 2018.

Jobs is the only obvious mandate, and Trump has it, not the GOP.
Yeah. My guess is that they'll eliminate the rule because of the way the Dems behaved.

Which, of course, will just make things worse. They did it first!!!
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There will be a lot of paybacks over the next 2 years at least, yes.
 
It seems pretty clear that neither "major" party has yet figured out that an electoral victory is not a "mandate" to shove their entire agenda down our throats, and that an evenly divided nation should be governed as one if you want to remain in power.

Writer Jay Cost is a solid conservative and has words of warning for the GOP:

What Goes Up...

But if the Republican party were a publicly traded company, January 20 would be the day to sell, sell, sell. This may sound counter-intuitive, but the verdict of history is clear, if not quite unanimous: The moment a party achieves total control of the government is the moment just before power begins to slip through its fingers.

Usually, the downturn begins quickly. First the marginal members of the congressional coalition begin to waver in their loyalty, then the midterm revivifies a seemingly moribund opposition. While the incumbent party usually wins its first reelection bid for the White House (Jimmy Carter being the only exception in the last 125 years), the other side retains a substantial footprint in the government. Their numbers are usually strengthened in the second midterm—at which point they often gain control over Congress.

So Republicans would do well to make hay while the sun shines, for sooner or later it is going to set. Ironically, nobody furnishes a better example of how to make use of a fleeting majority than Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. Blessed with a supermajority during 2009-2010, they implemented many sweeping policy changes with impressive alacrity—as if they knew that the moment would soon pass. Indeed, it did. This one will, too. Republicans should make the most of it while it lasts.

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I'm not so sure the Democrats are going to be able to make a comeback for a bit. They are in the process of making themselves irrelevant.
 
It seems pretty clear that neither "major" party has yet figured out that an electoral victory is not a "mandate" to shove their entire agenda down our throats, and that an evenly divided nation should be governed as one if you want to remain in power.

Writer Jay Cost is a solid conservative and has words of warning for the GOP:

What Goes Up...

But if the Republican party were a publicly traded company, January 20 would be the day to sell, sell, sell. This may sound counter-intuitive, but the verdict of history is clear, if not quite unanimous: The moment a party achieves total control of the government is the moment just before power begins to slip through its fingers.

Usually, the downturn begins quickly. First the marginal members of the congressional coalition begin to waver in their loyalty, then the midterm revivifies a seemingly moribund opposition. While the incumbent party usually wins its first reelection bid for the White House (Jimmy Carter being the only exception in the last 125 years), the other side retains a substantial footprint in the government. Their numbers are usually strengthened in the second midterm—at which point they often gain control over Congress.

So Republicans would do well to make hay while the sun shines, for sooner or later it is going to set. Ironically, nobody furnishes a better example of how to make use of a fleeting majority than Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. Blessed with a supermajority during 2009-2010, they implemented many sweeping policy changes with impressive alacrity—as if they knew that the moment would soon pass. Indeed, it did. This one will, too. Republicans should make the most of it while it lasts.

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I'm not so sure the Democrats are going to be able to make a comeback for a bit.
Because ... why ??
 
It seems pretty clear that neither "major" party has yet figured out that an electoral victory is not a "mandate" to shove their entire agenda down our throats, and that an evenly divided nation should be governed as one if you want to remain in power.

Writer Jay Cost is a solid conservative and has words of warning for the GOP:

What Goes Up...

But if the Republican party were a publicly traded company, January 20 would be the day to sell, sell, sell. This may sound counter-intuitive, but the verdict of history is clear, if not quite unanimous: The moment a party achieves total control of the government is the moment just before power begins to slip through its fingers.

Usually, the downturn begins quickly. First the marginal members of the congressional coalition begin to waver in their loyalty, then the midterm revivifies a seemingly moribund opposition. While the incumbent party usually wins its first reelection bid for the White House (Jimmy Carter being the only exception in the last 125 years), the other side retains a substantial footprint in the government. Their numbers are usually strengthened in the second midterm—at which point they often gain control over Congress.

So Republicans would do well to make hay while the sun shines, for sooner or later it is going to set. Ironically, nobody furnishes a better example of how to make use of a fleeting majority than Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. Blessed with a supermajority during 2009-2010, they implemented many sweeping policy changes with impressive alacrity—as if they knew that the moment would soon pass. Indeed, it did. This one will, too. Republicans should make the most of it while it lasts.

.

I'm not so sure the Democrats are going to be able to make a comeback for a bit. They are in the process of making themselves irrelevant.
Well, we don't know what the Trump presidency will look like. First, he's the wild card of all wild cards. Second, shit happens, the unexpected.

So yeah, the Democrats are in disarray, but Trump could make it easier for them. We'll see.
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It seems pretty clear that neither "major" party has yet figured out that an electoral victory is not a "mandate" to shove their entire agenda down our throats, and that an evenly divided nation should be governed as one if you want to remain in power.

Writer Jay Cost is a solid conservative and has words of warning for the GOP:

What Goes Up...

But if the Republican party were a publicly traded company, January 20 would be the day to sell, sell, sell. This may sound counter-intuitive, but the verdict of history is clear, if not quite unanimous: The moment a party achieves total control of the government is the moment just before power begins to slip through its fingers.

Usually, the downturn begins quickly. First the marginal members of the congressional coalition begin to waver in their loyalty, then the midterm revivifies a seemingly moribund opposition. While the incumbent party usually wins its first reelection bid for the White House (Jimmy Carter being the only exception in the last 125 years), the other side retains a substantial footprint in the government. Their numbers are usually strengthened in the second midterm—at which point they often gain control over Congress.

So Republicans would do well to make hay while the sun shines, for sooner or later it is going to set. Ironically, nobody furnishes a better example of how to make use of a fleeting majority than Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. Blessed with a supermajority during 2009-2010, they implemented many sweeping policy changes with impressive alacrity—as if they knew that the moment would soon pass. Indeed, it did. This one will, too. Republicans should make the most of it while it lasts.

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I'm not so sure the Democrats are going to be able to make a comeback for a bit.
Because ... why ??

Because they refuse to take responsibility and they have refused to discuss policy or even to critically think through the policies. They refuse to discuss actual issues. 43% of the voting population did not vote. They have made no grounds in the states. They offer absolutely nothing. And this is whom they cater to:
Davos Participants Wonder If Donald Trump Is All Their Fault

And they have decided to fight for existing rights rather than on things that need to be done. So, what in the heck are they going to be bringing to the table. Zip.
 
It seems pretty clear that neither "major" party has yet figured out that an electoral victory is not a "mandate" to shove their entire agenda down our throats, and that an evenly divided nation should be governed as one if you want to remain in power.

Writer Jay Cost is a solid conservative and has words of warning for the GOP:

What Goes Up...

But if the Republican party were a publicly traded company, January 20 would be the day to sell, sell, sell. This may sound counter-intuitive, but the verdict of history is clear, if not quite unanimous: The moment a party achieves total control of the government is the moment just before power begins to slip through its fingers.

Usually, the downturn begins quickly. First the marginal members of the congressional coalition begin to waver in their loyalty, then the midterm revivifies a seemingly moribund opposition. While the incumbent party usually wins its first reelection bid for the White House (Jimmy Carter being the only exception in the last 125 years), the other side retains a substantial footprint in the government. Their numbers are usually strengthened in the second midterm—at which point they often gain control over Congress.

So Republicans would do well to make hay while the sun shines, for sooner or later it is going to set. Ironically, nobody furnishes a better example of how to make use of a fleeting majority than Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. Blessed with a supermajority during 2009-2010, they implemented many sweeping policy changes with impressive alacrity—as if they knew that the moment would soon pass. Indeed, it did. This one will, too. Republicans should make the most of it while it lasts.

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I'm not so sure the Democrats are going to be able to make a comeback for a bit. They are in the process of making themselves irrelevant.
Well, we don't know what the Trump presidency will look like. First, he's the wild card of all wild cards. Second, shit happens, the unexpected.

So yeah, the Democrats are in disarray, but Trump could make it easier for them. We'll see.
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No. We don't. We can guarantee that no matter what he does it will be rejected because currently the only dialogue that can be mustered is "neener neener".
 

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