Republicans have already lost this election

There is one thing about the right wing of the Republican party aka (Tea Party member) that they never think about. How do we win the White House. This is usually the last consideration, (if at all that they think about.) Most of them live in conservative states--where most of the candidates they select can win a district, or house seat, or even possibly a U.S. Senate seat--but if an election goes past the state line--they're blind.

A Tea Party member does not know that the Republican Party is the minority party at 41 million, Democrats are stronger at 46 million, and Independents make up for largest voting block in this country, representing 40% of the entire electorate.

For quite some time, a Tea Party member's only news sources comes from 3 or more daily hours of right wing talk radio, and political entertainment programs on FOX news. They typically know nothing else, other than what they have been told by these right wing talk show hosts. If they read anything it will come out of a right wing news site, which of course is written by the right wing. Any other news source is not believed.

They've been repeatedly told that Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election because he was not conservative enough. Why shouldn't they believe it, it came out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth on many occasions and probably several other right wing shows. But the truth is Romney's fate was sealed long before he even became the nominee. Accomplished by the Evangelical wing of the party dragging abortion, who's not going to pay for birth control pills, and what is "legal Legitimate rape" questions, which OFFENDED women into Obama's column. Republicans lost women by double digits, younger women by 36 points. This is what secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama.
Why Romney Lost And Republicans Keep Losing
The GOP's woman problem goes beyond Trump
How women ruled the 2012 election and where the GOP went wrong - CNNPolitics.com

Regardless though, they didn't know they had a woman problem, they were never told that. They have believed for 4 years that they needed a more conservative candidate. So they found one. His name is Ted Cruz. They have followed him around cheered him on, donated a lot of money to him. Why? Because right wing talk show hosts supported him. "He's conservative enough to win the White House, they think." Ted Cruz would never win Independents or women. He has a far right stance on abortion. This country is center, it always has been, it always will be. Ted Cruz also has another huge problem. He was born in Canada. Now certainly the Tea Party knows that for 4 long years they, along with right wing talk show hosts, and Donald Trump hounded Obama for a birth certificate. He finally produced one showing himself born on U.S. soil, to shut them up. What does the Tea Party do next? They put up a candidate to run for POTUS that was born in Canada. This has to come from a group that is so politically inept--to actually believe that there would be no blow back by supporting a candidate that was actually born in Canada.

So enter Donald Trump. He and his supporters have already managed to chase off another 17% of the population, when Republicans needed at least 46% of this block to win the White House. They are now solidly in the Democrat column. Trump is polling at a negative 75% with Hispanics.
GOP Win Will Need More Than 40 Percent Of Latino 2016 Vote, Says Study
Latino conservatives: If Donald Trump is the nominee, we will not work to elect him
Poll: 75% of Latinos Have Negative View of Donald Trump

So you have the largest voting block (women) that were chased off in 2012, which secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama. Now in 2016 another large voting block (Hispanics) are now in the Democrat column.

It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is now--the Tea Party has already rino'd itself right into a Hillary Clinton Presidency before the first primary ballot was even cast. And frankly with these numbers it would not surprise me to see Republicans lose the Senate and a ton of seats in the house. What the Trump supporter failed to realize is that Republicans across the entire southwest of this country depend on Hispanics to win elections. Without them, they lose.

Tea-Party-agenda-GOP.jpg

The GOP will win if they STOP dividing the country according to race. In other words, don't treat people as Hispanics, or white, or black, etc. In other words, don't be racist like the Left is racist. Instead, embrace policies that ALL Americans can embrace, like lower taxes and border security and more jobs, etc.

And yes, embrace genders. There really is such a thing as male and female. In addition, there are difference between male and female, that is, unless you are science deniers like the looney Left.


Its not the republicans that are dividing the country by race, that is the tactic of the dems and libs, always has been. The rest of your post is right on.

I disagree. I think a large number of them are very much concerned with such things as the "Hispanic vote".

Then again, a large number of them, like McCain, are really racist Dims.

If the GOP loses it will be because they failed to repeal and replace Obamacare like they promised.


being concerned about the Hispanic vote is not dividing the country by race. But since you brought that up, a majority of legal Hispanic citizens support strong immigration laws and deportation of illegal criminals. Trump's policies are helping legal Hispanic americans and they understand that.
 
There is one thing about the right wing of the Republican party aka (Tea Party member) that they never think about. How do we win the White House. This is usually the last consideration, (if at all that they think about.) Most of them live in conservative states--where most of the candidates they select can win a district, or house seat, or even possibly a U.S. Senate seat--but if an election goes past the state line--they're blind.

A Tea Party member does not know that the Republican Party is the minority party at 41 million, Democrats are stronger at 46 million, and Independents make up for largest voting block in this country, representing 40% of the entire electorate.

For quite some time, a Tea Party member's only news sources comes from 3 or more daily hours of right wing talk radio, and political entertainment programs on FOX news. They typically know nothing else, other than what they have been told by these right wing talk show hosts. If they read anything it will come out of a right wing news site, which of course is written by the right wing. Any other news source is not believed.

They've been repeatedly told that Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election because he was not conservative enough. Why shouldn't they believe it, it came out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth on many occasions and probably several other right wing shows. But the truth is Romney's fate was sealed long before he even became the nominee. Accomplished by the Evangelical wing of the party dragging abortion, who's not going to pay for birth control pills, and what is "legal Legitimate rape" questions, which OFFENDED women into Obama's column. Republicans lost women by double digits, younger women by 36 points. This is what secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama.
Why Romney Lost And Republicans Keep Losing
The GOP's woman problem goes beyond Trump
How women ruled the 2012 election and where the GOP went wrong - CNNPolitics.com

Regardless though, they didn't know they had a woman problem, they were never told that. They have believed for 4 years that they needed a more conservative candidate. So they found one. His name is Ted Cruz. They have followed him around cheered him on, donated a lot of money to him. Why? Because right wing talk show hosts supported him. "He's conservative enough to win the White House, they think." Ted Cruz would never win Independents or women. He has a far right stance on abortion. This country is center, it always has been, it always will be. Ted Cruz also has another huge problem. He was born in Canada. Now certainly the Tea Party knows that for 4 long years they, along with right wing talk show hosts, and Donald Trump hounded Obama for a birth certificate. He finally produced one showing himself born on U.S. soil, to shut them up. What does the Tea Party do next? They put up a candidate to run for POTUS that was born in Canada. This has to come from a group that is so politically inept--to actually believe that there would be no blow back by supporting a candidate that was actually born in Canada.

So enter Donald Trump. He and his supporters have already managed to chase off another 17% of the population, when Republicans needed at least 46% of this block to win the White House. They are now solidly in the Democrat column. Trump is polling at a negative 75% with Hispanics.
GOP Win Will Need More Than 40 Percent Of Latino 2016 Vote, Says Study
Latino conservatives: If Donald Trump is the nominee, we will not work to elect him
Poll: 75% of Latinos Have Negative View of Donald Trump

So you have the largest voting block (women) that were chased off in 2012, which secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama. Now in 2016 another large voting block (Hispanics) are now in the Democrat column.

It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is now--the Tea Party has already rino'd itself right into a Hillary Clinton Presidency before the first primary ballot was even cast. And frankly with these numbers it would not surprise me to see Republicans lose the Senate and a ton of seats in the house. What the Trump supporter failed to realize is that Republicans across the entire southwest of this country depend on Hispanics to win elections. Without them, they lose.

Tea-Party-agenda-GOP.jpg

The GOP will win if they STOP dividing the country according to race. In other words, don't treat people as Hispanics, or white, or black, etc. In other words, don't be racist like the Left is racist. Instead, embrace policies that ALL Americans can embrace, like lower taxes and border security and more jobs, etc.

And yes, embrace genders. There really is such a thing as male and female. In addition, there are difference between male and female, that is, unless you are science deniers like the looney Left.


Its not the republicans that are dividing the country by race, that is the tactic of the dems and libs, always has been. The rest of your post is right on.

I disagree. I think a large number of them are very much concerned with such things as the "Hispanic vote".

Then again, a large number of them, like McCain, are really racist Dims.

If the GOP loses it will be because they failed to repeal and replace Obamacare like they promised.


being concerned about the Hispanic vote is not dividing the country by race. But since you brought that up, a majority of legal Hispanic citizens support strong immigration laws and deportation of illegal criminals. Trump's policies are helping legal Hispanic americans and they understand that.

Border security has NOTHING to do with who should be able to immigrate other than immigrating legally. The issue is stopping Democrat lobbyists from crossing the border like MS 13.

That should be shouted from the highest roof tops, but alas, it is not.
 
Your comments are YOUR truth not that of the masses. Under normal circumstances i'd respect your opinions but in this case you present nothing respectable... There's no room for biggits in todays world... Y'all just slow us down


"biggits" LOL, there no place for ignorant fools either.
So redfish is sticking up for Steve white power McGayette and calling me an ignorant fool... How about you back that up... In what way am I an ignorant fool. Dazzle us with you intelligence sparky....


Hmmm, lets see now, you said Hillary could not lose. does that prove your ignorance?
I did? When did I say that? Quote me


I am not going to go back through thousands of messages to find one where you said Hillary would win, but being that you are generally on the left side of things, I am quite sure that there was at least one. If I am wrong, OK. Maybe you can post one where you said that Trump was going to win.
How about you just not make ignorant assumptions and just stick to the facts and actual words used in our discussions. You sound like a fool when you make statements like that which you can’t back up
 
what ever mistakes the Republicans make, they're not losing 10% of their supporters per year, like the Democrats are

Well, the above is so damn IMPECCABLY well-documented and based on IRREFUTABLE facts, that who the hell could argue against it.....

BTW.........are you sure it wasn't 9% or 11% that democrats are losing per year ???.....................lol
 
There is one thing about the right wing of the Republican party aka (Tea Party member) that they never think about. How do we win the White House. This is usually the last consideration, (if at all that they think about.) Most of them live in conservative states--where most of the candidates they select can win a district, or house seat, or even possibly a U.S. Senate seat--but if an election goes past the state line--they're blind.

A Tea Party member does not know that the Republican Party is the minority party at 41 million, Democrats are stronger at 46 million, and Independents make up for largest voting block in this country, representing 40% of the entire electorate.

For quite some time, a Tea Party member's only news sources comes from 3 or more daily hours of right wing talk radio, and political entertainment programs on FOX news. They typically know nothing else, other than what they have been told by these right wing talk show hosts. If they read anything it will come out of a right wing news site, which of course is written by the right wing. Any other news source is not believed.

They've been repeatedly told that Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election because he was not conservative enough. Why shouldn't they believe it, it came out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth on many occasions and probably several other right wing shows. But the truth is Romney's fate was sealed long before he even became the nominee. Accomplished by the Evangelical wing of the party dragging abortion, who's not going to pay for birth control pills, and what is "legal Legitimate rape" questions, which OFFENDED women into Obama's column. Republicans lost women by double digits, younger women by 36 points. This is what secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama.
Why Romney Lost And Republicans Keep Losing
The GOP's woman problem goes beyond Trump
How women ruled the 2012 election and where the GOP went wrong - CNNPolitics.com

Regardless though, they didn't know they had a woman problem, they were never told that. They have believed for 4 years that they needed a more conservative candidate. So they found one. His name is Ted Cruz. They have followed him around cheered him on, donated a lot of money to him. Why? Because right wing talk show hosts supported him. "He's conservative enough to win the White House, they think." Ted Cruz would never win Independents or women. He has a far right stance on abortion. This country is center, it always has been, it always will be. Ted Cruz also has another huge problem. He was born in Canada. Now certainly the Tea Party knows that for 4 long years they, along with right wing talk show hosts, and Donald Trump hounded Obama for a birth certificate. He finally produced one showing himself born on U.S. soil, to shut them up. What does the Tea Party do next? They put up a candidate to run for POTUS that was born in Canada. This has to come from a group that is so politically inept--to actually believe that there would be no blow back by supporting a candidate that was actually born in Canada.

So enter Donald Trump. He and his supporters have already managed to chase off another 17% of the population, when Republicans needed at least 46% of this block to win the White House. They are now solidly in the Democrat column. Trump is polling at a negative 75% with Hispanics.
GOP Win Will Need More Than 40 Percent Of Latino 2016 Vote, Says Study
Latino conservatives: If Donald Trump is the nominee, we will not work to elect him
Poll: 75% of Latinos Have Negative View of Donald Trump

So you have the largest voting block (women) that were chased off in 2012, which secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama. Now in 2016 another large voting block (Hispanics) are now in the Democrat column.

It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is now--the Tea Party has already rino'd itself right into a Hillary Clinton Presidency before the first primary ballot was even cast. And frankly with these numbers it would not surprise me to see Republicans lose the Senate and a ton of seats in the house. What the Trump supporter failed to realize is that Republicans across the entire southwest of this country depend on Hispanics to win elections. Without them, they lose.

Tea-Party-agenda-GOP.jpg
See, this is the thing about making predictions. You shouldn't. Now, if you haven't already, pull the shards of that shattered crystal ball out of your backside and remember, it's 2018, you lost. Time to move on. Time to live in the now.
 
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"biggits" LOL, there no place for ignorant fools either.
So redfish is sticking up for Steve white power McGayette and calling me an ignorant fool... How about you back that up... In what way am I an ignorant fool. Dazzle us with you intelligence sparky....


Hmmm, lets see now, you said Hillary could not lose. does that prove your ignorance?
I did? When did I say that? Quote me


I am not going to go back through thousands of messages to find one where you said Hillary would win, but being that you are generally on the left side of things, I am quite sure that there was at least one. If I am wrong, OK. Maybe you can post one where you said that Trump was going to win.
How about you just not make ignorant assumptions and just stick to the facts and actual words used in our discussions. You sound like a fool when you make statements like that which you can’t back up


do you deny that you supported Hillary and posted things favoring her?
 
So redfish is sticking up for Steve white power McGayette and calling me an ignorant fool... How about you back that up... In what way am I an ignorant fool. Dazzle us with you intelligence sparky....


Hmmm, lets see now, you said Hillary could not lose. does that prove your ignorance?
I did? When did I say that? Quote me


I am not going to go back through thousands of messages to find one where you said Hillary would win, but being that you are generally on the left side of things, I am quite sure that there was at least one. If I am wrong, OK. Maybe you can post one where you said that Trump was going to win.
How about you just not make ignorant assumptions and just stick to the facts and actual words used in our discussions. You sound like a fool when you make statements like that which you can’t back up


do you deny that you supported Hillary and posted things favoring her?
I wasn’t a fan of either candidate and I didn’t vote for either of them. I thought hillary was the saner of the two but not without flaw. And why does it matter? What’s the point of these petty partisan games that you are trying to play? “We won you lost, you were wrong, rub your nose in it....” that’s childs play, what are you trying to accomplish?

Stop being part of the problem
 
Hmmm, lets see now, you said Hillary could not lose. does that prove your ignorance?
I did? When did I say that? Quote me


I am not going to go back through thousands of messages to find one where you said Hillary would win, but being that you are generally on the left side of things, I am quite sure that there was at least one. If I am wrong, OK. Maybe you can post one where you said that Trump was going to win.
How about you just not make ignorant assumptions and just stick to the facts and actual words used in our discussions. You sound like a fool when you make statements like that which you can’t back up


do you deny that you supported Hillary and posted things favoring her?
I wasn’t a fan of either candidate and I didn’t vote for either of them. I thought hillary was the saner of the two but not without flaw. And why does it matter? What’s the point of these petty partisan games that you are trying to play? “We won you lost, you were wrong, rub your nose in it....” that’s childs play, what are you trying to accomplish?

Stop being part of the problem


I don't think you have ever heard those kinds of comments from me. But if I have said anything like that it was merely an in kind response to some left wing troll.

so you wasted your vote in 2016, great, good for you. No one cares.

Trump has proven to be a very good president and has done most of the things he promised to do during the campaign. Hillary has proven to be an insane, old, sick, angry, hateful, corrupt woman, which is exactly why the American voters rejected her in 2016.

What I find so troublesome is that those on the left refuse to acknowledge Trump's accomplishments, even when they helped them personally. Its sad when partisanship overcomes logic and reason and self interest, and that is exactly what we are seeing in this country today.
 
I did? When did I say that? Quote me


I am not going to go back through thousands of messages to find one where you said Hillary would win, but being that you are generally on the left side of things, I am quite sure that there was at least one. If I am wrong, OK. Maybe you can post one where you said that Trump was going to win.
How about you just not make ignorant assumptions and just stick to the facts and actual words used in our discussions. You sound like a fool when you make statements like that which you can’t back up


do you deny that you supported Hillary and posted things favoring her?
I wasn’t a fan of either candidate and I didn’t vote for either of them. I thought hillary was the saner of the two but not without flaw. And why does it matter? What’s the point of these petty partisan games that you are trying to play? “We won you lost, you were wrong, rub your nose in it....” that’s childs play, what are you trying to accomplish?

Stop being part of the problem


I don't think you have ever heard those kinds of comments from me. But if I have said anything like that it was merely an in kind response to some left wing troll.

so you wasted your vote in 2016, great, good for you. No one cares.

Trump has proven to be a very good president and has done most of the things he promised to do during the campaign. Hillary has proven to be an insane, old, sick, angry, hateful, corrupt woman, which is exactly why the American voters rejected her in 2016.

What I find so troublesome is that those on the left refuse to acknowledge Trump's accomplishments, even when they helped them personally. Its sad when partisanship overcomes logic and reason and self interest, and that is exactly what we are seeing in this country today.
What started this discussion was you saying, “hmm, let’s see now, you said Hillary could not lose. Does that prove your ignorance?” So yes you just made that kind of statement and it was not an in kind response. A little self awareness would be helpful.

As for your left wing comment. Trump has done some good things for everybody and some things that go against left wing ideology so it is no mystery why they aren’t praising him. The main issue that many have isn’t necessarily about what he does but how he is doing it. He Has shown himself to be a dishonest and manipulative bully, and even if that leads to productive results, it is fair to criticize the methods for how he goes about his business... the effects are causing a hateful and passionate divide unlike anything I’ve ever seen in this country and it can’t lead to anything good in the future.
 
I love the Snowflake trolls who resurrect 2 year old threads trying to get the gullible to believe them.
 
There is one thing about the right wing of the Republican party aka (Tea Party member) that they never think about. How do we win the White House. This is usually the last consideration, (if at all that they think about.) Most of them live in conservative states--where most of the candidates they select can win a district, or house seat, or even possibly a U.S. Senate seat--but if an election goes past the state line--they're blind.

A Tea Party member does not know that the Republican Party is the minority party at 41 million, Democrats are stronger at 46 million, and Independents make up for largest voting block in this country, representing 40% of the entire electorate.

For quite some time, a Tea Party member's only news sources comes from 3 or more daily hours of right wing talk radio, and political entertainment programs on FOX news. They typically know nothing else, other than what they have been told by these right wing talk show hosts. If they read anything it will come out of a right wing news site, which of course is written by the right wing. Any other news source is not believed.

They've been repeatedly told that Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election because he was not conservative enough. Why shouldn't they believe it, it came out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth on many occasions and probably several other right wing shows. But the truth is Romney's fate was sealed long before he even became the nominee. Accomplished by the Evangelical wing of the party dragging abortion, who's not going to pay for birth control pills, and what is "legal Legitimate rape" questions, which OFFENDED women into Obama's column. Republicans lost women by double digits, younger women by 36 points. This is what secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama.
Why Romney Lost And Republicans Keep Losing
The GOP's woman problem goes beyond Trump
How women ruled the 2012 election and where the GOP went wrong - CNNPolitics.com

Regardless though, they didn't know they had a woman problem, they were never told that. They have believed for 4 years that they needed a more conservative candidate. So they found one. His name is Ted Cruz. They have followed him around cheered him on, donated a lot of money to him. Why? Because right wing talk show hosts supported him. "He's conservative enough to win the White House, they think." Ted Cruz would never win Independents or women. He has a far right stance on abortion. This country is center, it always has been, it always will be. Ted Cruz also has another huge problem. He was born in Canada. Now certainly the Tea Party knows that for 4 long years they, along with right wing talk show hosts, and Donald Trump hounded Obama for a birth certificate. He finally produced one showing himself born on U.S. soil, to shut them up. What does the Tea Party do next? They put up a candidate to run for POTUS that was born in Canada. This has to come from a group that is so politically inept--to actually believe that there would be no blow back by supporting a candidate that was actually born in Canada.

So enter Donald Trump. He and his supporters have already managed to chase off another 17% of the population, when Republicans needed at least 46% of this block to win the White House. They are now solidly in the Democrat column. Trump is polling at a negative 75% with Hispanics.
GOP Win Will Need More Than 40 Percent Of Latino 2016 Vote, Says Study
Latino conservatives: If Donald Trump is the nominee, we will not work to elect him
Poll: 75% of Latinos Have Negative View of Donald Trump

So you have the largest voting block (women) that were chased off in 2012, which secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama. Now in 2016 another large voting block (Hispanics) are now in the Democrat column.

It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is now--the Tea Party has already rino'd itself right into a Hillary Clinton Presidency before the first primary ballot was even cast. And frankly with these numbers it would not surprise me to see Republicans lose the Senate and a ton of seats in the house. What the Trump supporter failed to realize is that Republicans across the entire southwest of this country depend on Hispanics to win elections. Without them, they lose.

Tea-Party-agenda-GOP.jpg
See, this is the thing about making predictions. You shouldn't. Now, if you haven't already, pull the shards of that shattered crystal ball out of your backside and remember, it's 2018, you lost. Time to move on. Time to live in the now.


This is not a "prediction" it's based on real votes of special elections this past year. If you're having issues understanding it, you can read the results from these real votes at this link on this board. Looking out your rear view mirror isn't going to save you, Trump nor the Republican party.

Blue wave coming this November 2018

blue-tsunami-2018-678x381.jpg
 
being concerned about the Hispanic vote is not dividing the country by race. But since you brought that up, a majority of legal Hispanic citizens support strong immigration laws and deportation of illegal criminals. Trump's policies are helping legal Hispanic americans and they understand that.

Trump only won 29% of Hispanic voters.
 
There is one thing about the right wing of the Republican party aka (Tea Party member) that they never think about. How do we win the White House. This is usually the last consideration, (if at all that they think about.) Most of them live in conservative states--where most of the candidates they select can win a district, or house seat, or even possibly a U.S. Senate seat--but if an election goes past the state line--they're blind.

A Tea Party member does not know that the Republican Party is the minority party at 41 million, Democrats are stronger at 46 million, and Independents make up for largest voting block in this country, representing 40% of the entire electorate.

For quite some time, a Tea Party member's only news sources comes from 3 or more daily hours of right wing talk radio, and political entertainment programs on FOX news. They typically know nothing else, other than what they have been told by these right wing talk show hosts. If they read anything it will come out of a right wing news site, which of course is written by the right wing. Any other news source is not believed.

They've been repeatedly told that Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election because he was not conservative enough. Why shouldn't they believe it, it came out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth on many occasions and probably several other right wing shows. But the truth is Romney's fate was sealed long before he even became the nominee. Accomplished by the Evangelical wing of the party dragging abortion, who's not going to pay for birth control pills, and what is "legal Legitimate rape" questions, which OFFENDED women into Obama's column. Republicans lost women by double digits, younger women by 36 points. This is what secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama.
Why Romney Lost And Republicans Keep Losing
The GOP's woman problem goes beyond Trump
How women ruled the 2012 election and where the GOP went wrong - CNNPolitics.com

Regardless though, they didn't know they had a woman problem, they were never told that. They have believed for 4 years that they needed a more conservative candidate. So they found one. His name is Ted Cruz. They have followed him around cheered him on, donated a lot of money to him. Why? Because right wing talk show hosts supported him. "He's conservative enough to win the White House, they think." Ted Cruz would never win Independents or women. He has a far right stance on abortion. This country is center, it always has been, it always will be. Ted Cruz also has another huge problem. He was born in Canada. Now certainly the Tea Party knows that for 4 long years they, along with right wing talk show hosts, and Donald Trump hounded Obama for a birth certificate. He finally produced one showing himself born on U.S. soil, to shut them up. What does the Tea Party do next? They put up a candidate to run for POTUS that was born in Canada. This has to come from a group that is so politically inept--to actually believe that there would be no blow back by supporting a candidate that was actually born in Canada.

So enter Donald Trump. He and his supporters have already managed to chase off another 17% of the population, when Republicans needed at least 46% of this block to win the White House. They are now solidly in the Democrat column. Trump is polling at a negative 75% with Hispanics.
GOP Win Will Need More Than 40 Percent Of Latino 2016 Vote, Says Study
Latino conservatives: If Donald Trump is the nominee, we will not work to elect him
Poll: 75% of Latinos Have Negative View of Donald Trump

So you have the largest voting block (women) that were chased off in 2012, which secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama. Now in 2016 another large voting block (Hispanics) are now in the Democrat column.

It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is now--the Tea Party has already rino'd itself right into a Hillary Clinton Presidency before the first primary ballot was even cast. And frankly with these numbers it would not surprise me to see Republicans lose the Senate and a ton of seats in the house. What the Trump supporter failed to realize is that Republicans across the entire southwest of this country depend on Hispanics to win elections. Without them, they lose.

Tea-Party-agenda-GOP.jpg
See, this is the thing about making predictions. You shouldn't. Now, if you haven't already, pull the shards of that shattered crystal ball out of your backside and remember, it's 2018, you lost. Time to move on. Time to live in the now.


This is not a "prediction" it's based on real votes of special elections this past year. If you're having issues understanding it, you can read the results from these real votes at this link on this board. Looking out your rear view mirror isn't going to save you, Trump nor the Republican party.

Blue wave coming this November 2018

blue-tsunami-2018-678x381.jpg

The truth is that you have no idea at all as to what's going to happen, none. Nobody does, for you say otherwise makes you look just as foolish as did in 2016.
 
I am not going to go back through thousands of messages to find one where you said Hillary would win, but being that you are generally on the left side of things, I am quite sure that there was at least one. If I am wrong, OK. Maybe you can post one where you said that Trump was going to win.
How about you just not make ignorant assumptions and just stick to the facts and actual words used in our discussions. You sound like a fool when you make statements like that which you can’t back up


do you deny that you supported Hillary and posted things favoring her?
I wasn’t a fan of either candidate and I didn’t vote for either of them. I thought hillary was the saner of the two but not without flaw. And why does it matter? What’s the point of these petty partisan games that you are trying to play? “We won you lost, you were wrong, rub your nose in it....” that’s childs play, what are you trying to accomplish?

Stop being part of the problem


I don't think you have ever heard those kinds of comments from me. But if I have said anything like that it was merely an in kind response to some left wing troll.

so you wasted your vote in 2016, great, good for you. No one cares.

Trump has proven to be a very good president and has done most of the things he promised to do during the campaign. Hillary has proven to be an insane, old, sick, angry, hateful, corrupt woman, which is exactly why the American voters rejected her in 2016.

What I find so troublesome is that those on the left refuse to acknowledge Trump's accomplishments, even when they helped them personally. Its sad when partisanship overcomes logic and reason and self interest, and that is exactly what we are seeing in this country today.
What started this discussion was you saying, “hmm, let’s see now, you said Hillary could not lose. Does that prove your ignorance?” So yes you just made that kind of statement and it was not an in kind response. A little self awareness would be helpful.

As for your left wing comment. Trump has done some good things for everybody and some things that go against left wing ideology so it is no mystery why they aren’t praising him. The main issue that many have isn’t necessarily about what he does but how he is doing it. He Has shown himself to be a dishonest and manipulative bully, and even if that leads to productive results, it is fair to criticize the methods for how he goes about his business... the effects are causing a hateful and passionate divide unlike anything I’ve ever seen in this country and it can’t lead to anything good in the future.


the hateful divide started with Nixon and has continued since no matter which party has been in power. It is very sad and bad for our country, it is being fueled mostly by the far left in the media and academia, along with the democrat party that cannot get over Trump beating Hillary.

Trump is s typical new Yorker, he is sometimes brash and out spoken as are all new Yorkers. He is very compassionate and caring as he has shown many times when dealing with veterans, or victims of crime. BTW, enforcing our immigration laws is not a hate crime.
 
being concerned about the Hispanic vote is not dividing the country by race. But since you brought that up, a majority of legal Hispanic citizens support strong immigration laws and deportation of illegal criminals. Trump's policies are helping legal Hispanic americans and they understand that.

Trump only won 29% of Hispanic voters.


that's what the pollsters said, the same pollsters that said Hillary had a 97% chance of winning and that Trump had no path to 270 EC votes. Pollsters lie, its all they do.
 
There is one thing about the right wing of the Republican party aka (Tea Party member) that they never think about. How do we win the White House. This is usually the last consideration, (if at all that they think about.) Most of them live in conservative states--where most of the candidates they select can win a district, or house seat, or even possibly a U.S. Senate seat--but if an election goes past the state line--they're blind.

A Tea Party member does not know that the Republican Party is the minority party at 41 million, Democrats are stronger at 46 million, and Independents make up for largest voting block in this country, representing 40% of the entire electorate.

For quite some time, a Tea Party member's only news sources comes from 3 or more daily hours of right wing talk radio, and political entertainment programs on FOX news. They typically know nothing else, other than what they have been told by these right wing talk show hosts. If they read anything it will come out of a right wing news site, which of course is written by the right wing. Any other news source is not believed.

They've been repeatedly told that Mitt Romney lost the 2012 election because he was not conservative enough. Why shouldn't they believe it, it came out of Rush Limbaugh's mouth on many occasions and probably several other right wing shows. But the truth is Romney's fate was sealed long before he even became the nominee. Accomplished by the Evangelical wing of the party dragging abortion, who's not going to pay for birth control pills, and what is "legal Legitimate rape" questions, which OFFENDED women into Obama's column. Republicans lost women by double digits, younger women by 36 points. This is what secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama.
Why Romney Lost And Republicans Keep Losing
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-e...der-gap-2012-vote-largest-gallup-history.aspx
How women ruled the 2012 election and where the GOP went wrong - CNNPolitics.com

Regardless though, they didn't know they had a woman problem, they were never told that. They have believed for 4 years that they needed a more conservative candidate. So they found one. His name is Ted Cruz. They have followed him around cheered him on, donated a lot of money to him. Why? Because right wing talk show hosts supported him. "He's conservative enough to win the White House, they think." Ted Cruz would never win Independents or women. He has a far right stance on abortion. This country is center, it always has been, it always will be. Ted Cruz also has another huge problem. He was born in Canada. Now certainly the Tea Party knows that for 4 long years they, along with right wing talk show hosts, and Donald Trump hounded Obama for a birth certificate. He finally produced one showing himself born on U.S. soil, to shut them up. What does the Tea Party do next? They put up a candidate to run for POTUS that was born in Canada. This has to come from a group that is so politically inept--to actually believe that there would be no blow back by supporting a candidate that was actually born in Canada.

So enter Donald Trump. He and his supporters have already managed to chase off another 17% of the population, when Republicans needed at least 46% of this block to win the White House. They are now solidly in the Democrat column. Trump is polling at a negative 75% with Hispanics.
GOP Win Will Need More Than 40 Percent Of Latino 2016 Vote, Says Study
Latino conservatives: If Donald Trump is the nominee, we will not work to elect him
Poll: 75% of Latinos Have Negative View of Donald Trump

So you have the largest voting block (women) that were chased off in 2012, which secured a 2nd term for Barack Obama. Now in 2016 another large voting block (Hispanics) are now in the Democrat column.

It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is now--the Tea Party has already rino'd itself right into a Hillary Clinton Presidency before the first primary ballot was even cast. And frankly with these numbers it would not surprise me to see Republicans lose the Senate and a ton of seats in the house. What the Trump supporter failed to realize is that Republicans across the entire southwest of this country depend on Hispanics to win elections. Without them, they lose.
lol...you might wanna consider getting your news from right wing sources now
 

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