Republicans distorting democrat amendments??

[SmarterThanYou]

GOP rewrites dem amendments

The following amendments were offered and voted down by recorded votes in the Judiciary Committee markup of H.R. 748-The Child Interstate Abortion Notification Act (CIANA):


DESCRIPTION OF AMENDMENT
AMENDMENT DESCRIPTION IN HOUSE REPORT 109-51

DEMS: a Nadler amendment allows an adult who could be prosecuted under the bill to go to a Federal district court and seek a waiver to the state’s parental notice laws if this remedy is not available in the state court. (no 11-16)
GOP REWRITE:. Mr. Nadler offered an amendment that would have created an additional layer of Federal court review that could be used by sexual predators to escape conviction under the bill. By a roll call vote of 11 yeas to 16 nays, the amendment was defeated.

DEMS: a Nadler amendment to exempt a grandparent or adult sibling from the criminal and civil provisions in the bill (no 12-19)
GOP REWRITE: . Mr. Nadler offered an amendment that would have exempted sexual predators from prosecution under the bill if they were grandparents or adult siblings of a minor. By a roll call vote of 12 yeas to 19 nays, the amendment was defeated.

DEMS: a Scott amendment to exempt cab drivers, bus drivers and others in the business transportation profession from the criminal provisions in the bill (no 13-17):
GOP REWRITE. Mr. Scott offered an amendment that would have exempted sexual predators from prosecution if they are taxicab drivers, bus drivers, or others in the business of professional transport. By a roll call vote of 13 yeas to 17 nays, the amendment was defeated.

DEMS: a Scott amendment that would have limited criminal liability to the person committing the offense in the first degree (no 12-18)
GOP REWRITE:. Mr. Scott offered an amendment that would have exempted from prosecution under the bill those who aid and abet criminals who could be prosecuted under the bill. By a roll call vote of 12 yeas to 18 nays, the amendment was defeated


DEMS: a Jackson-Lee amendment to exempt clergy, godparents, aunts, uncles or first cousins from the penalties in the bill (no 13-20)
GOP REWRITE. Ms. Jackson-Lee offered an amendment that would have exempted sexual predators from prosecution under the bill if they were clergy, godparents, aunts, uncles, or first cousins of a minor, and would require a study by the Government Accounting Office. By a roll call vote of 13 yeas to 20 nays, the amendment was defeated.


Can anyone confirm whether this is reality or drama?

 

[manu1959]

reality....what is your issue .... the process ...or the result?

 

[SmarterThanYou]

reality....what is your issue .... the process ...or the result?

my issue is were those amendments rewritten by the GOP.

 

[5stringJeff]

Here is the official House Committee report.

HOUSE REPORT 109-51
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpque...2&xform_type=3&r_n=hr051.109&&sid=TSOPEbuAM&&

Scroll about halfway down to the link that says "COMMITTE CONSIDERATION." You will see the language that you refer to as "GOP rewrite."

 

[SmarterThanYou]

Here is the official House Committee report.

HOUSE REPORT 109-51
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/cpque...2&xform_type=3&r_n=hr051.109&&sid=TSOPEbuAM&&

Scroll about halfway down to the link that says "COMMITTE CONSIDERATION." You will see the language that you refer to as "GOP rewrite."

ok, so they did rewrite those amendments.

 

[5stringJeff]

ok, so they did rewrite those amendments.

I didn't see the original Dem versions.

 

[SmarterThanYou]

I didn't see the original Dem versions.

I didnt either, thats what I'm trying to confirm. were they originally presented as the dems said they were and then rewritten.

 

[manu1959]

my issue is were those amendments rewritten by the GOP.

got it...so you think the dems faked the wording you posted to make the gop look bad?

 

[SmarterThanYou]

got it...so you think the dems faked the wording you posted to make the gop look bad?

just looking to find out what the dems original amendments were and are they different or the same as what the GOP presented for debate and voting.

 

[5stringJeff]

just looking to find out what the dems original amendments were and are they different or the same as what the GOP presented for debate and voting.

That thomas.loc.gov link was all I could find.

 

[SmarterThanYou]

That thomas.loc.gov link was all I could find.

and the rawstory article was the only other thing I could find. well, if they want it known, it will get out there.

 

[SmarterThanYou]

Well, I now think that ALL of the current republican leadership are scumsucking worthless individuals. This was an unconscionable and deliberate act that reduces the republican party to the democrats level.

GOP retracts reworded democrat amendments with silence

WASHINGTON - After a week of Democratic protests, Republicans agreed on Thursday to change a report that had said the Democrats' amendments to an abortion bill could assist sexual predators.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler,D-N.Y., said in a floor speech that the changes made to the House Judiciary Committee report were "a tacit acknowledgment of the inaccuracy and untruthfulness of the original report."

He commended the committee chairman, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., for the change and said he hoped that, "with this correction of the slanderous report language, this unfortunate chapter can be brought to a close."

The dispute involved a bill, passed by the House last week, that would criminalize the transporting of a minor across state lines to get an abortion.

The report accompanying the bill, normally a dry, unremarkable explanation, set off protests because of the way it described several Democratic amendments, all defeated by the committee.

It said Nadler, who wanted to exempt some relatives from the act, "offered an amendment that would have exempted sexual predators from prosecution under the bill if they were grandparents or adult siblings of a minor."

On Tuesday Democrats offered a resolution, defeated on a party-line vote, accusing the Republican majority of deliberately mischaracterizing the amendments.

Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi demanded that Sensenbrenner apologize for "the disgusting misrepresentations."

Sensenbrenner, refused to back down, saying that "we were accurate, and if you do not want this to happen again, draft your amendments properly."

But on Thursday Sensenbrenner filed, without speaking on the House floor, the amended report that removed the references to sexual predators.

It did provide comment, common in reports, from the majority side expressing concerns that the amendments would create loopholes that sexual predators could exploit, and dissenting views from the Democratic side denying that this was the intent or effect of the amendments.

 

[5stringJeff]

Well, I now think that ALL of the current republican leadership are scumsucking worthless individuals. This was an unconscionable and deliberate act that reduces the republican party to the democrats level.

GOP retracts reworded democrat amendments with silence

WASHINGTON - After a week of Democratic protests, Republicans agreed on Thursday to change a report that had said the Democrats' amendments to an abortion bill could assist sexual predators.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler,D-N.Y., said in a floor speech that the changes made to the House Judiciary Committee report were "a tacit acknowledgment of the inaccuracy and untruthfulness of the original report."

He commended the committee chairman, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., for the change and said he hoped that, "with this correction of the slanderous report language, this unfortunate chapter can be brought to a close."

The dispute involved a bill, passed by the House last week, that would criminalize the transporting of a minor across state lines to get an abortion.

The report accompanying the bill, normally a dry, unremarkable explanation, set off protests because of the way it described several Democratic amendments, all defeated by the committee.

It said Nadler, who wanted to exempt some relatives from the act, "offered an amendment that would have exempted sexual predators from prosecution under the bill if they were grandparents or adult siblings of a minor."

On Tuesday Democrats offered a resolution, defeated on a party-line vote, accusing the Republican majority of deliberately mischaracterizing the amendments.

Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi demanded that Sensenbrenner apologize for "the disgusting misrepresentations."

Sensenbrenner, refused to back down, saying that "we were accurate, and if you do not want this to happen again, draft your amendments properly."

But on Thursday Sensenbrenner filed, without speaking on the House floor, the amended report that removed the references to sexual predators.

It did provide comment, common in reports, from the majority side expressing concerns that the amendments would create loopholes that sexual predators could exploit, and dissenting views from the Democratic side denying that this was the intent or effect of the amendments.

DK, have you seen a copy of the original Dem report?

 

[SmarterThanYou]

the only thing i have that shows the dems original amendments is in the first post. the article shows a partial of their report i think.

 

[5stringJeff]

the only thing i have that shows the dems original amendments is in the first post. the article shows a partial of their report i think.

Interesting. Regardless, neither party should mischaracterize the other's representations in official government reports.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

There ya have it. The gop is pro child molestation. The wild misrepresentations above prove it!

 

[5stringJeff]

There ya have it. The gop is pro child molestation. The wild misrepresentations above prove it!

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Yeah. I just skimmed it at first and posted hastily. I didn't realize how winy and niggling the actual issue was. "The Republicans misrepresented us!" aww. poor dems. STFU!

 

[SmarterThanYou]

not that i've got the energy to do that amount of research, but I can't even begin to count the number of posts, retorts, articles, and bitch sessions from republicans who claim the dems mischaracterized them.

 

[no1tovote4]

not that i've got the energy to do that amount of research, but I can't even begin to count the number of posts, retorts, articles, and bitch sessions from republicans who claim the dems mischaracterized them.

So you are saying that turnabout is fair play?