Republicans and the Affordable Care Act

[SniperFire]

Steve Benen on the MaddowBlog said that the ACA will bring down costs. Is HE lying too?:
CBO: Obamacare still cuts deficit - The Maddow Blog

Which part of it does bring down costs but not enough is too tough for you to grasp?

Do you need a picture drawn for you?

That is freaking hilarious, really.

Next you will probably tell us Obamacare reduces the family health insurance premium by $2500 a year.

 

[Meister]

I think the government should take over the energy industry and auto industry, also. Government Motors is just flush with cash now that the government has a stake in it.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Obama was reelected, and the ACA will stay. I would like to see the GOP start working to address the flaws in Obamacare since replacing it with RomneyCare is out( not that I was looking forward to that option either).

What do you think are the odds that they will work to amend it and stop wasting time and tax payer money trying to scrap it? Also, thoughts on what the 1st change to the ACA should be?

When do you think the Democrats will stop lying to the American people about Obamacare and acknowledge how deeply, how unsustainably flawed it is and begin to ask the Republicans for help in fixing these flaws other than more new taxes?

 

[SniperFire]

'Wal-Mart Stores' U.S. employees will pay between 8 percent and 36 percent more in premiums for its medical coverage in 2013, prompting some of the 1.4 million workers at the nation's largest private employer to say they will forego coverage altogether.'


Wal-Mart Employees to Pay More for Health-Care Plans - US Business News - CNBC


Barry be bringin down that cost of healthcare!

ROTF

 

[RDD_1210]

2 pages now and not one actual thing listed about what they would change with the ACA. It's because they like it, but aren't allowed to like anything that Obama does.

Every time they post without listing even a single issue they have with the program only reinforces how right I am.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

That's not what Obama said. That's not what Nancy Pelosi said.

Are you calling them liars?

It's bringing down costs, just not nearly enough.

And if it makes you feel better to call Pelosi or Obama or anyone else a liar to prove some sort of point that makes you feel better than that's fine.

Let me know when you're ready to talk about the issues and not focus on trying to make the other team look stupid.

Gee, my health insurance premiums went up 20% this last renewal. Where are the cost savings? Obama promised reductions in premiums. No one has seen their premiums go down. No one.

Mine went up 14% this year. Including a drop int he amount of flex spend I can have annuallly. Thanks, AHCA.

 

[syrenn]

Obama was reelected, and the ACA will stay. I would like to see the GOP start working to address the flaws in Obamacare since replacing it with RomneyCare is out( not that I was looking forward to that option either).

What do you think are the odds that they will work to amend it and stop wasting time and tax payer money trying to scrap it? Also, thoughts on what the 1st change to the ACA should be?

Getting rid of the ponzi scheme system it is set up to be..... would be a good start.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Steve Benen on the MaddowBlog said that the ACA will bring down costs. Is HE lying too?:
CBO: Obamacare still cuts deficit - The Maddow Blog

Which part of it does bring down costs but not enough is too tough for you to grasp?

Do you need a picture drawn for you?

Yes, draw a picture of YOU saying "I want Free Health Care!" and that would be descriptive AND accurate.

ACA doesn't bring down costs for anyone. You just THINK that someone else will pay for your healthcare. The worst part is that you want to use the power of the US Gov't to force others to pay for it.

That makes you a Lazy, Freedom Hating, Totalitarian Socialist.

 

[RDD_1210]

Steve Benen on the MaddowBlog said that the ACA will bring down costs. Is HE lying too?:
CBO: Obamacare still cuts deficit - The Maddow Blog

Which part of it does bring down costs but not enough is too tough for you to grasp?

Do you need a picture drawn for you?

Yes, draw a picture of YOU saying "I want Free Health Care!" and that would be descriptive AND accurate.

ACA doesn't bring down costs for anyone. You just THINK that someone else will pay for your healthcare. The worst part is that you want to use the power of the US Gov't to force others to pay for it.

That makes you a Lazy, Freedom Hating, Totalitarian Socialist.

Don't forget Nazi and Communist.

 

[AmyNation]

There are PROBLEMS with the ACA?

You all were jumping for joy when it passed. Tell us what's wrong with it.

I assume you mean "you" as in "dem dirty liberals" and not me specifically?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Obama was reelected, and the ACA will stay. I would like to see the GOP start working to address the flaws in Obamacare since replacing it with RomneyCare is out( not that I was looking forward to that option either).

What do you think are the odds that they will work to amend it and stop wasting time and tax payer money trying to scrap it? Also, thoughts on what the 1st change to the ACA should be?

I have no problem with the GOP repealing the ACA and replacing it with a single-payer system, in essence Medicare for all.

But of course they lack the wisdom to do that.

Otherwise just leaving it alone for the time-being is fine; besides, it was a republican plan to begin with, their opposition to it is thus mystifying – or more likely purely partisan.

 

[AmyNation]

Obama was reelected, and the ACA will stay. I would like to see the GOP start working to address the flaws in Obamacare since replacing it with RomneyCare is out( not that I was looking forward to that option either).

What do you think are the odds that they will work to amend it and stop wasting time and tax payer money trying to scrap it? Also, thoughts on what the 1st change to the ACA should be?

That's rich.... I thought it was a brilliant, masterful piece of legislation?

Where I have ever said that?

 

[toomuchtime_]

There are PROBLEMS with the ACA?

You all were jumping for joy when it passed. Tell us what's wrong with it.

I assume you mean "you" as in "dem dirty liberals" and not me specifically?

Feeling shy about telling us what you think is wrong with Obamacare?

 

[SniperFire]

There are PROBLEMS with the ACA?

You all were jumping for joy when it passed. Tell us what's wrong with it.

I assume you mean "you" as in "dem dirty liberals" and not me specifically?

You won. No need to keep up pretenses.

 

[Meister]

Obama was reelected, and the ACA will stay. I would like to see the GOP start working to address the flaws in Obamacare since replacing it with RomneyCare is out( not that I was looking forward to that option either).

What do you think are the odds that they will work to amend it and stop wasting time and tax payer money trying to scrap it? Also, thoughts on what the 1st change to the ACA should be?

I have no problem with the GOP repealing the ACA and replacing it with a single-payer system, in essence Medicare for all.

But of course they lack the wisdom to do that.

Otherwise just leaving it alone for the time-being is fine; besides, it was a republican plan to begin with, their opposition to it is thus mystifying – or more likely purely partisan.

I wonder how much we would have to borrow from China to get that accomplished?

 

[RDD_1210]

Page 3....still not one reason.

 

[GWV5903]

Obama was reelected, and the ACA will stay. I would like to see the GOP start working to address the flaws in Obamacare since replacing it with RomneyCare is out( not that I was looking forward to that option either).

What do you think are the odds that they will work to amend it and stop wasting time and tax payer money trying to scrap it? Also, thoughts on what the 1st change to the ACA should be?

You want constructive criticism? Then no one, I mean no one, including ALL government employees can be waived from it...

Next, get rid of the Pre Existing Exception rule, make it what it is today, No Insurance, then they can not gain coverage for pre existing until they have been insured for one year...

Really the best thing to do is scrap it and start over, it's a colossal mess, I'll stop there...

 

[AmyNation]

There are PROBLEMS with the ACA?

You all were jumping for joy when it passed. Tell us what's wrong with it.

I assume you mean "you" as in "dem dirty liberals" and not me specifically?

Feeling shy about telling us what you think is wrong with Obamacare?

Not at all.

I don't think the mandate will persuade people to purchase insruance, because more than likely the tax will be much lower than the cost of insurance. There are serious flaws in the rebate/price regulation portion of the bill, which worries me. The massive list of people and companies eligible for waivers unsettles me, again cost is to go down because so many will opt in but I think the opt in will be far less than anticipated. I also think as a whole we should be willing to admend it when issues arise, like the issue of insurance companies not selling child only polices because of the ACA. If we can't move quickly( by government standards) to amend the bill to the many problems that will naturally occur when you restructure an industry as large as insurance then Americans will suffer huge burdens.

My biggest problem is that the GOP want it to fail, I can understand that. However I worry that dems won't want to admit it needs amended and republicans would rather let Americans suffer in the hope that, if it gets really bad, they will get to finally repeal the thing.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

2 pages now and not one actual thing listed about what they would change with the ACA. It's because they like it, but aren't allowed to like anything that Obama does.

Every time they post without listing even a single issue they have with the program only reinforces how right I am.

i'd change it all by getting rid of the whole bill......but you want some specific examples.....

get rid of the 20 new taxes created by Obamacare....
get rid of the IRS agents that are going to hunt down people....
get rid of the "Board" that will promote rationing to curb costs...
get rid of the long lines that are coming because doctors/hospitals are disappearing...
get rid of free life-ending drugs and costly life-promoting drugs...
get rid of the excessive paperwork burdens....
get rid of the excessive burden on small companies to provide it or pay a fine....
get rid of people being forced to join Medicaid...
get rid of the whole nanny-state mentality....

is that enough for you.....?

 

[Wacky Quacky]

Page 3....still not one reason.

I'll bite.

I'm an either/or kind of guy when it comes to healthcare. Either we need full blown socialist/communist universal healthcare, or government needs to get completely out of it and back the fuck off. These half assed measures they keep vomiting out are only making the situation worse.

Personally, I support universal healthcare. I think it's bullshit that some one who plays by the rules, works hard, stays healthy, and pays for their own health insurance, can come down with a horribly debilitating disease and they loose everything.