Republicans and Homelessness

[TemplarKormac]

(1) -- Tens of thousands of people could be pushed into the streets, primarily because they would either lose access to subsidized housing or could not afford rent.

First, this comes with no link to a source backing up this claim. I'll also go on to say that those subsidies are also putting very well sane in the poorhouse too. So, it's a no win for the taxpayer, sane or insane. Simply put, if you don't want mentally ill people, fix the mental health system. I've experienced it first hand, and it's terrible.

(2) -- If 10 percent [of the 3.6 million SSDI recipients with diagnosed mental disorders] lose their benefits, the likelihood is that some will lose their housing.

The words 'if' and 'likelihood' in the same sentence makes it a theory, not a fact. Moreover, I hear government gives free housing. The whole idea of the free housing program is not to charge a low income earning individual more than they can afford for rent. Self defeating really.

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(3) -- Qualifying for the benefit opens up access to other subsidized and private housing programs. “It’s been a real lifeline to the homeless.”

One thing this assertion does not do is say how these programs will be affected.

(4) -- "Many beneficiaries are very sick, or even terminally ill – one in five male and one in six female Disability Insurance beneficiaries die within five years of receiving benefits, and beneficiaries are three to five times more likely to die than other people their age," wrote TalkPoverty.org.

Talk about fear mongering. I find this faith in government fixing all what ails us to be disturbing. Throwing random facts out there wont do much to make a point. I could keel over with a heart attack right now, but is the GOP responsible? No. Patently absurd.

(5) -- Workers who have been denied Disability Insurance fare extremely poorly in the labor market. A recent study found that among people whose Disability Insurance applications were denied, the vast majority—70 percent to 80 percent—went on to earn less than $1,000 per month."

A study by a progressive political advocacy group is hardly credible. Moving on.

(6) -- As of December 2013, about 35 percent of SSDI recipients, or 3.6 million people, had been diagnosed with the following mental disorders to qualify for the program: autism (0.4 percent); developmental (0.1 percent); other childhood and adolescent disorders (0.1 percent); intellectual disabilities (8.3 percent); mood disorders (14.0 percent); organic (3.3 percent); schizophrenic and other psychotic (5.0 percent); and other (3.8 percent).

And this proves what? That there's a war on the poor?

(7) -- As of January 2013, there were 578,424 homeless people across America “on a given night,” according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development’s annual homelessness report to Congress, published last fall. Of that number, 31 percent, or more than 179,000 people, were not staying in temporary shelters.

And? How is this the GOP's doing? So far, all this article is doing is spewing random facts and bunk studies to make an unprovable point.

(8) -- “Studies have been done of the percentage of income received from various benefits that goes into housing,” Nortz said, speaking about homeless people who found housing. “It’s already well above 50 percent and in some cases 90 percent. For unsubsidized housing, if you take away 20 percent of their income, they no longer will be able to afford the housing they have. They will join the ranks of the most difficult-to-help people.”

What studies?

(9) -- When Ronald Reagan was president in the 1980s, he cut funding for federal housing programs while at the same time many states closed mental institutions. Together, those trends resulted in thousands of people, especially the mentally ill, becoming homeless across America.

A Salon.com hit piece on Ronald Reagan. How quaint. That's twice this article has cited a liberal website or group as proof of point. Sorry (in Alex Trebek voice) we're looking for what is "objectivity."

(10) -- As GOP leaders promote cutting Social Security, demonize and mock SSDI recipients, and use the program as the vehicle for their first wave of reforms, one can only hope this new war on the poor will not increase homelessness. But there’s a strong possibility it will.

And to top it all off, we have this point, filled with tired rhetoric and inflammatory statements. Basically all this article did was blame one political party for all society's problems, including mental illness, disease and poverty. If you don't mind me asking, have you seen what Obamacare has done lately?

 

[Flopper]

(1) -- Tens of thousands of people could be pushed into the streets, primarily because they would either lose access to subsidized housing or could not afford rent.

First, this comes with no link to a source backing up this claim. I'll also go on to say that those subsidies are also putting very well sane in the poorhouse too. So, it's a no win for the taxpayer, sane or insane. Simply put, if you don't want mentally ill people, fix the mental health system. I've experienced it first hand, and it's terrible.

(2) -- If 10 percent [of the 3.6 million SSDI recipients with diagnosed mental disorders] lose their benefits, the likelihood is that some will lose their housing.

The words 'if' and 'likelihood' in the same sentence makes it a theory, not a fact. Moreover, I hear government gives free housing. The whole idea of the free housing program is not to charge a low income earning individual more than they can afford for rent. Self defeating really.

Free Government Housing Programs eHow

(3) -- Qualifying for the benefit opens up access to other subsidized and private housing programs. “It’s been a real lifeline to the homeless.”

One thing this assertion does not do is say how these programs will be affected.

(4) -- "Many beneficiaries are very sick, or even terminally ill – one in five male and one in six female Disability Insurance beneficiaries die within five years of receiving benefits, and beneficiaries are three to five times more likely to die than other people their age," wrote TalkPoverty.org.

Talk about fear mongering. I find this faith in government fixing all what ails us to be disturbing. Throwing random facts out there wont do much to make a point. I could keel over with a heart attack right now, but is the GOP responsible? No. Patently absurd.

(5) -- Workers who have been denied Disability Insurance fare extremely poorly in the labor market. A recent study found that among people whose Disability Insurance applications were denied, the vast majority—70 percent to 80 percent—went on to earn less than $1,000 per month."

A study by a progressive political advocacy group is hardly credible. Moving on.

(6) -- As of December 2013, about 35 percent of SSDI recipients, or 3.6 million people, had been diagnosed with the following mental disorders to qualify for the program: autism (0.4 percent); developmental (0.1 percent); other childhood and adolescent disorders (0.1 percent); intellectual disabilities (8.3 percent); mood disorders (14.0 percent); organic (3.3 percent); schizophrenic and other psychotic (5.0 percent); and other (3.8 percent).

And this proves what? That there's a war on the poor?

(7) -- As of January 2013, there were 578,424 homeless people across America “on a given night,” according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development’s annual homelessness report to Congress, published last fall. Of that number, 31 percent, or more than 179,000 people, were not staying in temporary shelters.

And? How is this the GOP's doing? So far, all this article is doing is spewing random facts and bunk studies to make an unprovable point.

(8) -- “Studies have been done of the percentage of income received from various benefits that goes into housing,” Nortz said, speaking about homeless people who found housing. “It’s already well above 50 percent and in some cases 90 percent. For unsubsidized housing, if you take away 20 percent of their income, they no longer will be able to afford the housing they have. They will join the ranks of the most difficult-to-help people.”

What studies?

(9) -- When Ronald Reagan was president in the 1980s, he cut funding for federal housing programs while at the same time many states closed mental institutions. Together, those trends resulted in thousands of people, especially the mentally ill, becoming homeless across America.

A Salon.com hit piece on Ronald Reagan. How quaint. That's twice this article has cited a liberal website or group as proof of point. Sorry (in Alex Trebek voice) we're looking for what is "objectivity."

(10) -- As GOP leaders promote cutting Social Security, demonize and mock SSDI recipients, and use the program as the vehicle for their first wave of reforms, one can only hope this new war on the poor will not increase homelessness. But there’s a strong possibility it will.

And to top it all off, we have this point, filled with tired rhetoric and inflammatory statements. Basically all this article did was blame one political party for all society's problems, including mental illness, disease and poverty. If you don't mind me asking, have you seen what Obamacare has done lately?

"The whole idea of the free housing program is not to charge a low income earning individual more than they can afford for rent. Self defeating really.
So they should charge the person more than they can afford?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

The Terrible GOP Policy That'll Kick Thousands More Mentally Ill Homeless People Out on the Streets.
The GOP's new war on the poor could result in more mentally ill people living on the streets.

(1) -- Tens of thousands of people could be pushed into the streets, primarily because they would either lose access to subsidized housing or could not afford rent.
(2) -- If 10 percent [of the 3.6 million SSDI recipients with diagnosed mental disorders] lose their benefits, the likelihood is that some will lose their housing.
(3) -- Qualifying for the benefit opens up access to other subsidized and private housing programs. “It’s been a real lifeline to the homeless.”
(4) -- "Many beneficiaries are very sick, or even terminally ill – one in five male and one in six female Disability Insurance beneficiaries die within five years of receiving benefits, and beneficiaries are three to five times more likely to die than other people their age," wrote TalkPoverty.org.
(5) -- Workers who have been denied Disability Insurance fare extremely poorly in the labor market. A recent study found that among people whose Disability Insurance applications were denied, the vast majority—70 percent to 80 percent—went on to earn less than $1,000 per month."
(6) -- As of December 2013, about 35 percent of SSDI recipients, or 3.6 million people, had been diagnosed with the following mental disorders to qualify for the program: autism (0.4 percent); developmental (0.1 percent); other childhood and adolescent disorders (0.1 percent); intellectual disabilities (8.3 percent); mood disorders (14.0 percent); organic (3.3 percent); schizophrenic and other psychotic (5.0 percent); and other (3.8 percent).
(7) -- As of January 2013, there were 578,424 homeless people across America “on a given night,” according to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development’s annual homelessness report to Congress, published last fall. Of that number, 31 percent, or more than 179,000 people, were not staying in temporary shelters.
(8) -- “Studies have been done of the percentage of income received from various benefits that goes into housing,” Nortz said, speaking about homeless people who found housing. “It’s already well above 50 percent and in some cases 90 percent. For unsubsidized housing, if you take away 20 percent of their income, they no longer will be able to afford the housing they have. They will join the ranks of the most difficult-to-help people.”
(9) -- When Ronald Reagan was president in the 1980s, he cut funding for federal housing programs while at the same time many states closed mental institutions. Together, those trends resulted in thousands of people, especially the mentally ill, becoming homeless across America.
(10) -- As GOP leaders promote cutting Social Security, demonize and mock SSDI recipients, and use the program as the vehicle for their first wave of reforms, one can only hope this new war on the poor will not increase homelessness. But there’s a strong possibility it will.

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******** If the Republicans have their way, What will we do with the people cut from the program?

Wow, you Leftwats dusted this stupidity off from the '80's and recycled it? You people are pathetic.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

When Ronald Reagan was president in the 1980s, he cut funding for federal housing programs while at the same time many states closed mental institutions.

Liberals were in favor of deinstitutionalization.

Closing those facilities was due to the ACLU fighting to do just that. People can't be locked up and medicated against their will. So they die in the streets.

Amazing how the Lying Left continues to blame the GOP for what the courts did. They especially like to go after Reagan as the California governor. He had no choice in the matter.

Stop lying, Leftists!