Republicans 40 Year Refusal To Invest In Infrastructure Begins To Cripple US Economy

[Indeependent]

NY infrastructure is undergoing massive rebuilding.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Is this today's talking points memo from the DNC?

 

[Avatar4321]

1) obama passed a stimulus package in 2009 focused on infrastructure. So unless Democrats lies and didn’t use it for infrastructure how can you claim infrastructure has been neglected for 40 years?

2) trump claims the next legislation is an infrastructure bill so will Democrats be helping to pass it?

If you had reading comprehension skills, you would have noticed at the very beginning of the article

In one of its last acts of stupidity for 2017, the Trump administration has cancelled the agreement that the federal government had with the states of New York and New Jersey to not only restore the badly damaged rail tunnels between those two states but also build a new, third tunnel as well to relieve the congestion at that critical rail hub. The agreement meant that the federal government would split the cost of that project with the two states.

Everything after would be a fail.

That doesn’t address anything I’ve said on the matter

You’re claiming that because of republicans infrastructure has been ignored for forty years. This is blatantly untrue as I’ve shown.

Whether the trump administration canceled one project or not doesn’t change the fact that the premised of your thread is blatantly false.

So we are supposed to just ignore that trump has an infrastructure bill on the agenda this year? We are supposed to ignore infrastructure projects supported by republicans and the fact that Obama’s stimulus bill was claimed to be an infrastructure bill? Somehow because one deal has been canceled for whatever reason infrastructure has been neglected for forty years and it’s republicana fault despite democrats having power nearly half that forty years?

Btw I understand that the real point of this is to try to talk down the economy. People aren’t stupid. They won’t be fooled. They will see their own pay grow and know the economy isn’t bad

 

[Avatar4321]

1) obama passed a stimulus package in 2009 focused on infrastructure. So unless Democrats lies and didn’t use it for infrastructure how can you claim infrastructure has been neglected for 40 years?

2) trump claims the next legislation is an infrastructure bill so will Democrats be helping to pass it?

If you had reading comprehension skills, you would have noticed at the very beginning of the article

In one of its last acts of stupidity for 2017, the Trump administration has cancelled the agreement that the federal government had with the states of New York and New Jersey to not only restore the badly damaged rail tunnels between those two states but also build a new, third tunnel as well to relieve the congestion at that critical rail hub. The agreement meant that the federal government would split the cost of that project with the two states.

Everything after would be a fail.

I think I see the problem.

The rest of the countries infrastructure is going to take priority over the greed of NY/NJ and you don't like it.

We'll work on the infrastructure for the rest of the country first. If there are funds left over, by all means, build your self-centered tunnel.

In other words, get to the back of the line. NY/NJ just aren't that important.

They could just use state funds. It’s not like the people aren’t taxed enough in those states

 

[Norman]

We need some new infrastructure indeed.

Now,, BUILD THAT WALL!

 

[skews13]

1) obama passed a stimulus package in 2009 focused on infrastructure. So unless Democrats lies and didn’t use it for infrastructure how can you claim infrastructure has been neglected for 40 years?

2) trump claims the next legislation is an infrastructure bill so will Democrats be helping to pass it?

If you had reading comprehension skills, you would have noticed at the very beginning of the article

In one of its last acts of stupidity for 2017, the Trump administration has cancelled the agreement that the federal government had with the states of New York and New Jersey to not only restore the badly damaged rail tunnels between those two states but also build a new, third tunnel as well to relieve the congestion at that critical rail hub. The agreement meant that the federal government would split the cost of that project with the two states.

Everything after would be a fail.

I think I see the problem.

The rest of the countries infrastructure is going to take priority over the greed of NY/NJ and you don't like it.

We'll work on the infrastructure for the rest of the country first. If there are funds left over, by all means, build your self-centered tunnel.

In other words, get to the back of the line. NY/NJ just aren't that important.

They could just use state funds. It’s not like the people aren’t taxed enough in those states

They know they're taxed enough. They pay for enough red sate infrastructure. And now they are being taxed again to pay for the Trump tax scam.

 

[Oldstyle]

Wait a minute, Bill Clinton was president after Reagan. What did he do besides grope Monica under the desk, sell nuclear technology to N.K. and bomb freaking Europe? What did democrats address when they gained the majority half way into George Bush's 2nd term? The economy, infrastructure, foreign policy? Nope, they undertook a McCarthy like tribunal about ....wait for it.....steroid use in baseball. Barry Hussein promised to "wean America off fossil fuel" so we wouldn't need infrastructure while we were riding bicycles and horses like other 3rd world countries. President Trump reduced unemployment to a near twenty year low, brought jobs back to America and promised to fix the infrastructure but the crazy and angry left isn't listening as usual.

Clinton x 8 years, Obama’s x 8 years! Infrastructure?

Hello? Do nothing Congress? Esp. with Obama..after his first two years--that was that. Blame aside..Trump could have kept the deal..and that is right now.

So you admit that for the first two years of the Obama Administration, Democrats controlled the White House and Congress? Will you also admit that they had a HUGE stimulus fund to work with? So why didn't they fix infrastructure then?

If you'll recall, Nancy Pelosi and Barry promised that their stimulus would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"! If you'll also recall...they handled that stimulus so badly that most of that money was spent on keeping their supporters in the public sector employed.

 

[bripat9643]

1) obama passed a stimulus package in 2009 focused on infrastructure. So unless Democrats lies and didn’t use it for infrastructure how can you claim infrastructure has been neglected for 40 years?

2) trump claims the next legislation is an infrastructure bill so will Democrats be helping to pass it?

If you had reading comprehension skills, you would have noticed at the very beginning of the article

In one of its last acts of stupidity for 2017, the Trump administration has cancelled the agreement that the federal government had with the states of New York and New Jersey to not only restore the badly damaged rail tunnels between those two states but also build a new, third tunnel as well to relieve the congestion at that critical rail hub. The agreement meant that the federal government would split the cost of that project with the two states.

Everything after would be a fail.

I think I see the problem.

The rest of the countries infrastructure is going to take priority over the greed of NY/NJ and you don't like it.

We'll work on the infrastructure for the rest of the country first. If there are funds left over, by all means, build your self-centered tunnel.

In other words, get to the back of the line. NY/NJ just aren't that important.

NY/NJ didn't vote for Trump, so they get table scraps.

Wait a minute, Bill Clinton was president after Reagan. What did he do besides grope Monica under the desk, sell nuclear technology to N.K. and bomb freaking Europe? What did democrats address when they gained the majority half way into George Bush's 2nd term? The economy, infrastructure, foreign policy? Nope, they undertook a McCarthy like tribunal about ....wait for it.....steroid use in baseball. Barry Hussein promised to "wean America off fossil fuel" so we wouldn't need infrastructure while we were riding bicycles and horses like other 3rd world countries. President Trump reduced unemployment to a near twenty year low, brought jobs back to America and promised to fix the infrastructure but the crazy and angry left isn't listening as usual.

Clinton x 8 years, Obama’s x 8 years! Infrastructure?

Hello? Do nothing Congress? Esp. with Obama..after his first two years--that was that. Blame aside..Trump could have kept the deal..and that is right now.

Wasn't Obama supposed to fix all of our infrastructure problems? Wasn't that part of the reason for his massive bailouts and stimulus spending?

Looks like he lied to you..

Updated - The Obameter: Create a $60 billion bank to fund roads and bridges

Scandal: Less than 7% of Trillion-Dollar 'Stimulus' Spent on Infrastructure | Human Events

From your politifact link:

One example is the work done with the Transportation Infrastructure Finance and Innovation Act (TIFIA) program, a federal effort started in 1998 that has provided $122 million in loans annually for infrastructure projects across the country, and the Railroad Rehabilitation & Improvement Financing Program.

Puentes said that although funding hasn't increased for these programs, the administration has been innovative in linking them together to fund large projects, one example being a $300 million project funded by loans from the TIFIA and RRIF programs to restore and improve transit at the Denver Union Station in Colorado.

When it comes to the promise, though, although the administration has repeatedly attempted to create a national infrastructure bank, it appears unlikely to happen by the end of Obama's first term. For now, we rate this a Promise Broken.

So yeah..he tried and failed..kinda different from lying, eh?

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[K9Buck]

The ideological blinders that have guided the Republican party since the Reagan administration are slowly but surely crippling our economy. One area where that is most evident is in our transportation infrastructure where the Republican refusal to consider any federal investment as valid has led to the deterioration of the very pathways that fuel our economy.

In one of its last acts of stupidity for 2017, the Trump administration has cancelled the agreement that the federal government had with the states of New York and New Jersey to not only restore the badly damaged rail tunnels between those two states but also build a new, third tunnel as well to relieve the congestion at that critical rail hub. The agreement meant that the federal government would split the cost of that project with the two states.

This is the second time an agreement to restore this important rail link and the busiest transit hub in the entire country has been sabotaged by Republicans. In 2010, then New Jersey Governor Chris Christie backed out of a similar project, saying the state could not afford it. Instead, he funneled the money saved into the state’s own dwindling transportation so he would not have to raise the state’s gas tax and position himself for a presidential run.

Amtrak estimates that the two existing tunnels have less than 15 years left before they totally breakdown and there is no guarantee that one or both of these salt-ravaged tunnels might fail earlier. It is estimated that if just one tunnel failed, it would slow rail traffic through the Northeast by 75% and create a regional economic crisis.

The truly sick part of all this is that, if Christie had gone ahead with the plan in 2010, there was a possibility that the new tunnel would be coming into service this year. Instead, it will be another decade before this restoration project will be completed, if at all. It is thought that this current cancellation may be yet another political ploy by Trump and the Republicans and that this will be folded into the so-far mythical Trump infrastructure plan in order to woo Democratic votes. But even that might be a tough sell if Trump’s plan is just another corporate giveaway in the form of public-private partnerships.

This isn’t the only major rail project that the Trump administration has kiboshed. In July, the federal government backed out of an agreement with the state of Maryland and the rail company CSX to raise the height of the Howard Street Tunnel in Baltimore in order to allow double-stacked rail cars to easily access the Port of Baltimore. Double-stacked rail cars comprise over 75% of intermodal rail traffic in the country and this will only increase in the future. This will be especially true on the East Coast in both Baltimore and New York as shipping traffic from Asia increases with the opening of the expanded Panama Canal.

This refusal to recognize any valid investment by the federal government, which Republican have engaged in since the Reagan administration, has led to the slow but steady erosion of our transportation infrastructure, which was once the envy of the world. And that erosion will soon begin to cripple this country economically.

Republicans’ 40 Year Refusal To Invest In Infrastructure Begins to Cripple US Economy

New York and New Jersey expect taxpayers from other states to provide them with a loan to commence building. The federal government IS willing to kick in a share of the cost, the fed is simply unwilling to provide loans to New York and New Jersey.

Be honest. Tell the truth.

 

[danielpalos]

The ideological blinders that have guided the Republican party since the Reagan administration are slowly but surely crippling our economy. One area where that is most evident is in our transportation infrastructure where the Republican refusal to consider any federal investment as valid has led to the deterioration of the very pathways that fuel our economy.

In one of its last acts of stupidity for 2017, the Trump administration has cancelled the agreement that the federal government had with the states of New York and New Jersey to not only restore the badly damaged rail tunnels between those two states but also build a new, third tunnel as well to relieve the congestion at that critical rail hub. The agreement meant that the federal government would split the cost of that project with the two states.

This is the second time an agreement to restore this important rail link and the busiest transit hub in the entire country has been sabotaged by Republicans. In 2010, then New Jersey Governor Chris Christie backed out of a similar project, saying the state could not afford it. Instead, he funneled the money saved into the state’s own dwindling transportation so he would not have to raise the state’s gas tax and position himself for a presidential run.

Amtrak estimates that the two existing tunnels have less than 15 years left before they totally breakdown and there is no guarantee that one or both of these salt-ravaged tunnels might fail earlier. It is estimated that if just one tunnel failed, it would slow rail traffic through the Northeast by 75% and create a regional economic crisis.

The truly sick part of all this is that, if Christie had gone ahead with the plan in 2010, there was a possibility that the new tunnel would be coming into service this year. Instead, it will be another decade before this restoration project will be completed, if at all. It is thought that this current cancellation may be yet another political ploy by Trump and the Republicans and that this will be folded into the so-far mythical Trump infrastructure plan in order to woo Democratic votes. But even that might be a tough sell if Trump’s plan is just another corporate giveaway in the form of public-private partnerships.

This isn’t the only major rail project that the Trump administration has kiboshed. In July, the federal government backed out of an agreement with the state of Maryland and the rail company CSX to raise the height of the Howard Street Tunnel in Baltimore in order to allow double-stacked rail cars to easily access the Port of Baltimore. Double-stacked rail cars comprise over 75% of intermodal rail traffic in the country and this will only increase in the future. This will be especially true on the East Coast in both Baltimore and New York as shipping traffic from Asia increases with the opening of the expanded Panama Canal.

This refusal to recognize any valid investment by the federal government, which Republican have engaged in since the Reagan administration, has led to the slow but steady erosion of our transportation infrastructure, which was once the envy of the world. And that erosion will soon begin to cripple this country economically.

Republicans’ 40 Year Refusal To Invest In Infrastructure Begins to Cripple US Economy

No more tax breaks; investment funds in infrastructure!

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Wait a minute, Bill Clinton was president after Reagan. What did he do besides grope Monica under the desk, sell nuclear technology to N.K. and bomb freaking Europe? What did democrats address when they gained the majority half way into George Bush's 2nd term? The economy, infrastructure, foreign policy? Nope, they undertook a McCarthy like tribunal about ....wait for it.....steroid use in baseball. Barry Hussein promised to "wean America off fossil fuel" so we wouldn't need infrastructure while we were riding bicycles and horses like other 3rd world countries. President Trump reduced unemployment to a near twenty year low, brought jobs back to America and promised to fix the infrastructure but the crazy and angry left isn't listening as usual.

Clinton x 8 years, Obama’s x 8 years! Infrastructure?

Hello? Do nothing Congress? Esp. with Obama..after his first two years--that was that. Blame aside..Trump could have kept the deal..and that is right now.

So you admit that for the first two years of the Obama Administration, Democrats controlled the White House and Congress? Will you also admit that they had a HUGE stimulus fund to work with? So why didn't they fix infrastructure then?

If you'll recall, Nancy Pelosi and Barry promised that their stimulus would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"! If you'll also recall...they handled that stimulus so badly that most of that money was spent on keeping their supporters in the public sector employed.

Well, there was this thing called a recession? Some even called The "Great Recession'? There was a lot going on..and many things that needed fixes. Apparently they got it right..since the economy that Trump inherited seems to be doing well.

Infrastructure has been one of those things promised by both parties and kicked down the road for a long time..we can continue to go back into the past to assign blame..or we can move forward. Trump has an infrastructure bill--let's see what is in it. But there seems to be a lot of petty 'pay the Blue States back' stuff going on. If it continues..the bill will stall--a true bipartisan effort is required..Trump has yet to show he has those kind of chops.

Midterms are coming--after that..it is very likely that gridlock will rule--unless a precedent for bipartisan cooperation has been set.

I'm not optimistic.

 

[sartre play]

The ideological blinders that have guided the Republican party since the Reagan administration are slowly but surely crippling our economy. One area where that is most evident is in our transportation infrastructure where the Republican refusal to consider any federal investment as valid has led to the deterioration of the very pathways that fuel our economy.

In one of its last acts of stupidity for 2017, the Trump administration has cancelled the agreement that the federal government had with the states of New York and New Jersey to not only restore the badly damaged rail tunnels between those two states but also build a new, third tunnel as well to relieve the congestion at that critical rail hub. The agreement meant that the federal government would split the cost of that project with the two states.

This is the second time an agreement to restore this important rail link and the busiest transit hub in the entire country has been sabotaged by Republicans. In 2010, then New Jersey Governor Chris Christie backed out of a similar project, saying the state could not afford it. Instead, he funneled the money saved into the state’s own dwindling transportation so he would not have to raise the state’s gas tax and position himself for a president
Amtrak estimates that the two existing tunnels have less than 15 years left before they totally breakdown and there is no guarantee that one or both of these salt-ravaged tunnels might fail earlier. It is estimated that if just one tunnel failed, it would slow rail traffic through the Northeast by 75% and create a regional economic crisis.

The truly sick part of all this is that, if Christie had gone ahead with the plan in 2010, there was a possibility that the new tunnel would be coming into service this year. Instead, it will be another decade before this restoration project will be completed, if at all. It is thought that this current cancellation may be yet another political ploy by Trump and the Republicans and that this will be folded into the so-far mythical Trump infrastructure plan in order to woo Democratic votes. But even that might be a tough sell if Trump’s plan is just another corporate giveaway in the form of public-private partnerships.

This isn’t the only major rail project that the Trump administration has kiboshed. In July, the federal government backed out of an agreement with the state of Maryland and the rail company CSX to raise the height of the Howard Street Tunnel in Baltimore in order to allow double-stacked rail cars to easily access the Port of Baltimore. Double-stacked rail cars comprise over 75% of intermodal rail traffic in the country and this will only increase in the future. This will be especially true on the East Coast in both Baltimore and New York as shipping traffic from Asia increases with the opening of the expanded Panama Canal.

This refusal to recognize any valid investment by the federal government, which Republican have engaged in since the Reagan administration, has led to the slow but steady erosion of our transportation infrastructure, which was once the envy of the world. And that erosion will soon begin to cripple this country economically.

Republicans’ 40 Year Refusal To Invest In Infrastructure Begins to Cripple US Economy
(quote) is it true that we are losing shipping to China?

 

[MarcATL]

1) obama passed a stimulus package in 2009 focused on infrastructure. So unless Democrats lies and didn’t use it for infrastructure how can you claim infrastructure has been neglected for 40 years?

2) trump claims the next legislation is an infrastructure bill so will Democrats be helping to pass it?

Don't be a damned child. It means with republicans obstructing, infrastructure hasn't been able to get the attention it deserves.

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[danielpalos]

Let's raise taxes on the rich, they can afford it now.

 

[Oldstyle]

Wait a minute, Bill Clinton was president after Reagan. What did he do besides grope Monica under the desk, sell nuclear technology to N.K. and bomb freaking Europe? What did democrats address when they gained the majority half way into George Bush's 2nd term? The economy, infrastructure, foreign policy? Nope, they undertook a McCarthy like tribunal about ....wait for it.....steroid use in baseball. Barry Hussein promised to "wean America off fossil fuel" so we wouldn't need infrastructure while we were riding bicycles and horses like other 3rd world countries. President Trump reduced unemployment to a near twenty year low, brought jobs back to America and promised to fix the infrastructure but the crazy and angry left isn't listening as usual.

Clinton x 8 years, Obama’s x 8 years! Infrastructure?

Hello? Do nothing Congress? Esp. with Obama..after his first two years--that was that. Blame aside..Trump could have kept the deal..and that is right now.

So you admit that for the first two years of the Obama Administration, Democrats controlled the White House and Congress? Will you also admit that they had a HUGE stimulus fund to work with? So why didn't they fix infrastructure then?

If you'll recall, Nancy Pelosi and Barry promised that their stimulus would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"! If you'll also recall...they handled that stimulus so badly that most of that money was spent on keeping their supporters in the public sector employed.

Well, there was this thing called a recession? Some even called The "Great Recession'? There was a lot going on..and many things that needed fixes. Apparently they got it right..since the economy that Trump inherited seems to be doing well.

Infrastructure has been one of those things promised by both parties and kicked down the road for a long time..we can continue to go back into the past to assign blame..or we can move forward. Trump has an infrastructure bill--let's see what is in it. But there seems to be a lot of petty 'pay the Blue States back' stuff going on. If it continues..the bill will stall--a true bipartisan effort is required..Trump has yet to show he has those kind of chops.

Midterms are coming--after that..it is very likely that gridlock will rule--unless a precedent for bipartisan cooperation has been set.

I'm not optimistic.

Ah, dude? If they got it "right"...then they wouldn't have had to use "jobs created or saved" to hide how few jobs their stimulus actually created! The fact is...your guy Obama oversaw the worst recovery from a US recession in modern economic history. Do you know how you can tell? They had one increase in the Fed rate from the time Barry got elected until when Trump got elected. Why? Because the economy was so shaky. Since Trump was elected we've had 3 increases to the Fed's interest rate with another one due shortly!

"Infrastructure" has become the far left's clarion call for more money to be siphoned out of the private sector and funneled through government...which means more money for them to give out as they see fit. You HAD the money to do serious infrastructure improvements but you squandered it. You had gasoline tax dollars for decades that were supposed to go to repairing our highways but politicians on both sides used THAT for other things as well! You liberals don't want to fix infrastructure...you simply want a bigger slush fund to play with so you can do more give-a-ways to buy more votes! It's what you do...it's who you are!

 

[Avatar4321]

1) obama passed a stimulus package in 2009 focused on infrastructure. So unless Democrats lies and didn’t use it for infrastructure how can you claim infrastructure has been neglected for 40 years?

2) trump claims the next legislation is an infrastructure bill so will Democrats be helping to pass it?

If you had reading comprehension skills, you would have noticed at the very beginning of the article

In one of its last acts of stupidity for 2017, the Trump administration has cancelled the agreement that the federal government had with the states of New York and New Jersey to not only restore the badly damaged rail tunnels between those two states but also build a new, third tunnel as well to relieve the congestion at that critical rail hub. The agreement meant that the federal government would split the cost of that project with the two states.

Everything after would be a fail.

I think I see the problem.

The rest of the countries infrastructure is going to take priority over the greed of NY/NJ and you don't like it.

We'll work on the infrastructure for the rest of the country first. If there are funds left over, by all means, build your self-centered tunnel.

In other words, get to the back of the line. NY/NJ just aren't that important.

They could just use state funds. It’s not like the people aren’t taxed enough in those states

They know they're taxed enough. They pay for enough red sate infrastructure. And now they are being taxed again to pay for the Trump tax scam.

They could elect representatives who will cut their taxes. That way their states will grow stronger and bring in more revenue

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Wait a minute, Bill Clinton was president after Reagan. What did he do besides grope Monica under the desk, sell nuclear technology to N.K. and bomb freaking Europe? What did democrats address when they gained the majority half way into George Bush's 2nd term? The economy, infrastructure, foreign policy? Nope, they undertook a McCarthy like tribunal about ....wait for it.....steroid use in baseball. Barry Hussein promised to "wean America off fossil fuel" so we wouldn't need infrastructure while we were riding bicycles and horses like other 3rd world countries. President Trump reduced unemployment to a near twenty year low, brought jobs back to America and promised to fix the infrastructure but the crazy and angry left isn't listening as usual.

Clinton x 8 years, Obama’s x 8 years! Infrastructure?

Hello? Do nothing Congress? Esp. with Obama..after his first two years--that was that. Blame aside..Trump could have kept the deal..and that is right now.

So you admit that for the first two years of the Obama Administration, Democrats controlled the White House and Congress? Will you also admit that they had a HUGE stimulus fund to work with? So why didn't they fix infrastructure then?

If you'll recall, Nancy Pelosi and Barry promised that their stimulus would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"! If you'll also recall...they handled that stimulus so badly that most of that money was spent on keeping their supporters in the public sector employed.

Well, there was this thing called a recession? Some even called The "Great Recession'? There was a lot going on..and many things that needed fixes. Apparently they got it right..since the economy that Trump inherited seems to be doing well.

Infrastructure has been one of those things promised by both parties and kicked down the road for a long time..we can continue to go back into the past to assign blame..or we can move forward. Trump has an infrastructure bill--let's see what is in it. But there seems to be a lot of petty 'pay the Blue States back' stuff going on. If it continues..the bill will stall--a true bipartisan effort is required..Trump has yet to show he has those kind of chops.

Midterms are coming--after that..it is very likely that gridlock will rule--unless a precedent for bipartisan cooperation has been set.

I'm not optimistic.

Ah, dude? If they got it "right"...then they wouldn't have had to use "jobs created or saved" to hide how few jobs their stimulus actually created! The fact is...your guy Obama oversaw the worst recovery from a US recession in modern economic history. Do you know how you can tell? They had one increase in the Fed rate from the time Barry got elected until when Trump got elected. Why? Because the economy was so shaky. Since Trump was elected we've had 3 increases to the Fed's interest rate with another one due shortly!

"Infrastructure" has become the far left's clarion call for more money to be siphoned out of the private sector and funneled through government...which means more money for them to give out as they see fit. You HAD the money to do serious infrastructure improvements but you squandered it. You had gasoline tax dollars for decades that were supposed to go to repairing our highways but politicians on both sides used THAT for other things as well! You liberals don't want to fix infrastructure...you simply want a bigger slush fund to play with so you can do more give-a-ways to buy more votes! It's what you do...it's who you are!

Lol..Obama was never 'my guy'--I do think he had more sense than Trump..but the bar is pretty low in that respect. Infrastructure has been the tool of both parties...but it does not have to be. I'm not a lib..call me a lapsed Republican, I guess. I usually just say Independent, these days. I voted against Obama twice. My car still has a Romney sticker on it.
I'm against everything Trump and the Alt/right stand for..and as the Republicans have seen fit to roll with him..they can do without me.

Slush funds is it? Games with the taxpayer money? When I see either side deal honestly with our money--I'll know pigs are now equipped with wings.

 

[Oldstyle]

Clinton x 8 years, Obama’s x 8 years! Infrastructure?

Hello? Do nothing Congress? Esp. with Obama..after his first two years--that was that. Blame aside..Trump could have kept the deal..and that is right now.

So you admit that for the first two years of the Obama Administration, Democrats controlled the White House and Congress? Will you also admit that they had a HUGE stimulus fund to work with? So why didn't they fix infrastructure then?

If you'll recall, Nancy Pelosi and Barry promised that their stimulus would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"! If you'll also recall...they handled that stimulus so badly that most of that money was spent on keeping their supporters in the public sector employed.

Well, there was this thing called a recession? Some even called The "Great Recession'? There was a lot going on..and many things that needed fixes. Apparently they got it right..since the economy that Trump inherited seems to be doing well.

Infrastructure has been one of those things promised by both parties and kicked down the road for a long time..we can continue to go back into the past to assign blame..or we can move forward. Trump has an infrastructure bill--let's see what is in it. But there seems to be a lot of petty 'pay the Blue States back' stuff going on. If it continues..the bill will stall--a true bipartisan effort is required..Trump has yet to show he has those kind of chops.

Midterms are coming--after that..it is very likely that gridlock will rule--unless a precedent for bipartisan cooperation has been set.

I'm not optimistic.

Ah, dude? If they got it "right"...then they wouldn't have had to use "jobs created or saved" to hide how few jobs their stimulus actually created! The fact is...your guy Obama oversaw the worst recovery from a US recession in modern economic history. Do you know how you can tell? They had one increase in the Fed rate from the time Barry got elected until when Trump got elected. Why? Because the economy was so shaky. Since Trump was elected we've had 3 increases to the Fed's interest rate with another one due shortly!

"Infrastructure" has become the far left's clarion call for more money to be siphoned out of the private sector and funneled through government...which means more money for them to give out as they see fit. You HAD the money to do serious infrastructure improvements but you squandered it. You had gasoline tax dollars for decades that were supposed to go to repairing our highways but politicians on both sides used THAT for other things as well! You liberals don't want to fix infrastructure...you simply want a bigger slush fund to play with so you can do more give-a-ways to buy more votes! It's what you do...it's who you are!

Lol..Obama was never 'my guy'--I do think he had more sense than Trump..but the bar is pretty low in that respect. Infrastructure has been the tool of both parties...but it does not have to be. I'm not a lib..call me a lapsed Republican, I guess. I usually just say Independent, these days. I voted against Obama twice. My car still has a Romney sticker on it.
I'm against everything Trump and the Alt/right stand for..and as the Republicans have seen fit to roll with him..they can do without me.

Slush funds is it? Games with the taxpayer money? When I see either side deal honestly with our money--I'll know pigs are now equipped with wings.

I'm amused by the notion held by so many of you on the left that Trump is "Alt/right"! He's a Rockefeller Republican! Romney was further right than Trump is!

 

[Oldstyle]

As for which side deals with our money better?

One just gave us more of it back for US to spend...

The other thinks we shouldn't get that money...that THEY know how to spend it better than we do!

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Hello? Do nothing Congress? Esp. with Obama..after his first two years--that was that. Blame aside..Trump could have kept the deal..and that is right now.

So you admit that for the first two years of the Obama Administration, Democrats controlled the White House and Congress? Will you also admit that they had a HUGE stimulus fund to work with? So why didn't they fix infrastructure then?

If you'll recall, Nancy Pelosi and Barry promised that their stimulus would create hundreds of thousands of "shovel ready jobs"! If you'll also recall...they handled that stimulus so badly that most of that money was spent on keeping their supporters in the public sector employed.

Well, there was this thing called a recession? Some even called The "Great Recession'? There was a lot going on..and many things that needed fixes. Apparently they got it right..since the economy that Trump inherited seems to be doing well.

Infrastructure has been one of those things promised by both parties and kicked down the road for a long time..we can continue to go back into the past to assign blame..or we can move forward. Trump has an infrastructure bill--let's see what is in it. But there seems to be a lot of petty 'pay the Blue States back' stuff going on. If it continues..the bill will stall--a true bipartisan effort is required..Trump has yet to show he has those kind of chops.

Midterms are coming--after that..it is very likely that gridlock will rule--unless a precedent for bipartisan cooperation has been set.

I'm not optimistic.

Ah, dude? If they got it "right"...then they wouldn't have had to use "jobs created or saved" to hide how few jobs their stimulus actually created! The fact is...your guy Obama oversaw the worst recovery from a US recession in modern economic history. Do you know how you can tell? They had one increase in the Fed rate from the time Barry got elected until when Trump got elected. Why? Because the economy was so shaky. Since Trump was elected we've had 3 increases to the Fed's interest rate with another one due shortly!

"Infrastructure" has become the far left's clarion call for more money to be siphoned out of the private sector and funneled through government...which means more money for them to give out as they see fit. You HAD the money to do serious infrastructure improvements but you squandered it. You had gasoline tax dollars for decades that were supposed to go to repairing our highways but politicians on both sides used THAT for other things as well! You liberals don't want to fix infrastructure...you simply want a bigger slush fund to play with so you can do more give-a-ways to buy more votes! It's what you do...it's who you are!

Lol..Obama was never 'my guy'--I do think he had more sense than Trump..but the bar is pretty low in that respect. Infrastructure has been the tool of both parties...but it does not have to be. I'm not a lib..call me a lapsed Republican, I guess. I usually just say Independent, these days. I voted against Obama twice. My car still has a Romney sticker on it.
I'm against everything Trump and the Alt/right stand for..and as the Republicans have seen fit to roll with him..they can do without me.

Slush funds is it? Games with the taxpayer money? When I see either side deal honestly with our money--I'll know pigs are now equipped with wings.

I'm amused by the notion held by so many of you on the left that Trump is "Alt/right"! He's a Rockefeller Republican! Romney was further right than Trump is!

I agree..is not his political position I find abhorrent..but rather his use of the alt/right to get elected--his divisive tactics, his incessant lying, his self-serving narcissistic tweets and his willful ignorance of the world around him. I think him incompetent. But he is the one we elected..so he is what we have to work with. I just wish that we could get a populist President who is not a buffoon.

The Republican party as a whole has decided to go with the Alt/right..which is why we parted company. They have no room for moderates. Neither do the Democrats..