Republican voter suppression continues unabated

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    Secretary of State Kris Kobach's proposal for requiring Kansas voters to show photo identification at the polls has the House and Senate agreeing over different aspects of the fraud bill.

    The Senate version still includes Kobach's proposal requiring people who are voting for the first time to registering to vote to have a passport, birth certificate or other proof of citizenship, but the rule would be delayed until 2013, instead of taking effect next year as Kobach had proposed. The House also had approved the proposal. Also, the Senate's version of the bill omits proposals from Kobach to increase penalties for election crimes and to give the power to the secretary of state's office authority to file and prosecute voter fraud cases in state courts. The House's version contains those provisions.

    Proponent of the Voter ID Bill Senator Terrie Huntington said the legislation will require the state to provide free non-driver ids and allows people to bring a photo id or documents proving citizenship to election officials after they have gone to the polls or filled out a voter registration form.

    Huntington said "it safe guards it, when you have to prove you are who you are when you are voting, it allows the poll workers to see and match the face to the new photo id registration card and it assures that it is a smoother process at the voting booth."

    While Fairway Senator Huntington said there is evidence various county clerks, opponent of the bill, Kansas City Senator David Haley, said it doesn't think there is a voting fraud problem.

    Haley said "Secretary Kobach knows and it's been proven by many sources Kansas has not had any examples of voter fraud. there have been no documented examples of voter fraud."

    Haley believes this bill will target suppressive voters, such as elderly or poor citizens. instead of making voting easier, he feels this bill is a speed bump for voters.

    Haley said "voting is a constitutional right and you should not have a badge or centralized number or a photo in order to cast your vote. As long as you are a legal citizen of the United States of America."

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    Why do you think it is voter suppression to show an ID? If they are provided free State ID's -- how is anyone being suppressed?

    We have to show ID to use a debit/credit cards, to drive, to fly, to check books out of a library, to buy alcohol and cigarettes, to obtain medical care, many schools one has ID. Why not for such an important aspect of our lives such a choosing who will lead this county?
     
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    Are we going to have to start dredging up all the ACORN convictions of voter fraud to stop this silliness????
     
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    I'll stand by for the silly comment that "Acorn was never convicted of wrong doing" and the insistence that it's just the poor crackheads they hire, trying to do a good job for the scumbags of the earth, who can't control their criminal impulses...
     
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    The LAW STATES, in every State, that only properly registered people can vote. And to be properly registered one must be a citizen of the State in question as well as a citizen of the United States.

    Please explain how requiring voters prove they are who the claim to be on the voter rolls is suppression of votes? How does one provide evidence they are a LEGAL citizen of the United States? Further I know of no ID requirements that call for that level of proof at the Voting Station. All the current laws require is proof you are the person listed on the voter rolls before being allowed to cast your vote.
     
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    in order to continue, it has to begin. Requiring people to identify themselves in an effort to prevent voter fraud is not voter supression.

    Why are you in favor of fraud in our system? Especially when we can make take some common sense efforts to ensure that there is no fraud.
     
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    This should stop them in their tracks if they do!

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    " In this case the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now pleaded guilty this week in Las Vegas to felony compensation for registration of voters. Sentencing is scheduled for Aug. 10.
    ACORN executives conspired to provide cash bonuses to voter registration canvassers. Nevada law forbids such practices because they give canvassers an incentive to file fraudulent registrations.
    The ACORN executives previously convicted and sentenced in the conspiracy are Amy Adele Busefink and Christopher Howell Edwards."

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    Requiring a person to provide proof of citizenship, which is provided free by the state, is voter suppression? Does this mean you think non citizens should vote, or are you afraid rich people in Kansas will no longer vote if they do not have to pay for ID?
     
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    Because everyone know that pleading guilty is not the same as being convicted.

    Las Vegas Weekly : - ACORN pleads guilty—and gets a slap on the wrist
     

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