Republican Rift: Big Business vs. Tea Party

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    Peter Dreier: Republican Rift: Big Business vs. Tea Party


    This is why they will not win the White House.
     
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    So you admit that if the Republicans lose it will be because of their inability to unite rather than because of President Obama's skills, ability, leadership, or effectiveness of any of his policies? That's a rather telling admission.
     
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    Do you really think the TP are serious enough to really go against their party and the big corporations?
    I think not when it comes down to the vote.

    44 of them voted to keep the partiot act and even strengthen it.
     
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    Big business likes Obama better? This outta be interesting. :lol:
     
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    Yeah I think they have jumped the logic track a bit, even though Obama is pretty much a corporatist.
     
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    Admittedly, the notion of big business siding with Democrats over Republicans seems far-fetched, but I think it could happen. Organizations like the Chamber of Commerce understood that the debt-ceiling brinksmanship was bad for business-- they were definitely closer to the President than to Congressional Republicans on that one. And of course large corporations have been giving to both parties-- Republican intransigence could lead to a noticeable but not overwhelming shift towards the Democrats.
     
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    Big business sides with Democrats all the time. Who exactly does GE support? Or Goldman Sachs?

    I remember last year when Democrats were supposedly going after Goldman Sachs for financial abuses. They wanted to pass legislation aimed at "getting at the big guy for the little guy". Of course the media conveniently ignored that Goldman Sachs was heavily contributing to the Obama and other major Democrats and despite the legislations statement that the regulation was going after them, Goldman Sachs was in a position to heavily profit from the passage.

    The idea that Big business doesn't support Democrats is a myth. I'm not saying there arent big businesses that support Republicans too. But then it's foolish to presume that all businesses benefit from the same political objectives.

    Some of the big businesses would be seriously hurt by limited restrained Federal Government because they need the government regulation to eliminate new competition that might someday beat them out before they can get started.
     
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    big business does control both parties now.
     
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    The way to defeat big business is to support limited government. Big business likes big government because they can manipulate the legislation to make it too expensive for smaller businesses to compete with them. If we followed the Constitution and reigned in the Federal Government's spending and regulation spree, we would do much to curb the powers of big business.
     
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    considering lobbyists and the recent supreme court decision on corporate contributions I do not see any way to stop the corporate control.

    btw we have a corporate majority in the supreme court now.
    If it is govt vs individual the govt wins. If it is corp vs individual the corp wins. If it is corp vs govt the corp wins.
    Look at all the recent decisions.
     

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