Republican Plan For Fiscal Sanity

Definitely not the EPA, but maybe the Department of Ed. can go.

Could you point to the clause of the Constitution that authorizes the Federal Government to regulate environmental matters?

The "we can do whatever the fuck we want because we are the Federal Government" clause... don't you remember reading about that in civics?

Nope. Didn't mention it in my Constitutional Law classes either.
 
Definitely not the EPA, but maybe the Department of Ed. can go.

Could you point to the clause of the Constitution that authorizes the Federal Government to regulate environmental matters?

Point to where it says it's not allowed to.

The Tenth Amendment. Any power not specifically delegated to the Federal Government remains with the States.

Now, please can you answer your question or are you conceding that it doesn't?
 
So... spending everything you have and 100% more leads to prosperity? Where? I wanna go there! Or would I have to smoke crack to get there?

And all these years I've been saving, not using CC's and driving cars until the wheels wobble off... silly me.
 
I guess we have to figure out how to spend other people's money... seems to be fast becoming the American way.
 
Could you point to the clause of the Constitution that authorizes the Federal Government to regulate environmental matters?

Point to where it says it's not allowed to.
Wrong criteria, comrade.

Article 1, Section 8...Find the explicit federal authority for the EPA.

Hey right wing Jethro, find the word 'corporation' in ANY founding document.

Matter of FACT, bring me ONE founding father that would ever subscribe to letting corporations kill people.


"Republicans care more about property, Democrats care more about people"
Ted Sorensen
 
The Republicans, gearing up for November 2010, and clearly reasserting themselves with the basic conservative principles of sound fiscal policy, have laid out a plan to save the country $1.3 trillion over the next decade...

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Democratic attempts to paint Republicans as the Party of No got a little tougher today with the release of a new plan from the House Republicans on the Budget Committee. The GOP has demanded spending cuts, and today the group led by Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) laid out a preliminary slate of specifics. If adopted, they predict that they can save over $1.3 trillion over the next ten years. In the preamble, the GOP caucus slams the Democrats for failing to provide a budget for FY2011:

Having shoveled out trillions of dollars in new spending and debt, House Democratic leaders now admit they cannot budget for all of it – and won’t even try. For the first time, the House will fail even to propose a budget. Instead the Democratic Majority will resort to an ad hoc, spend-as-you-go process that abandons any pretense of governing.


Hot Air GOP proposes $1.3 trillion in savings over next 10 years

Hot Air Gop lolol

Your link title said it all, in an exquisitely Freudian way.
 
Point to where it says it's not allowed to.
Wrong criteria, comrade.

Article 1, Section 8...Find the explicit federal authority for the EPA.

Hey right wing Jethro, find the word 'corporation' in ANY founding document.

Matter of FACT, bring me ONE founding father that would ever subscribe to letting corporations kill people.


"Republicans care more about property, Democrats care more about people"
Ted Sorensen

What the hell does this have to do with ANYTHING? We talk about constitutional authority for the EPA and you spew this idiocy?

And BTW... Ted Sorensen is a decrepit old hack... and quite wealthy I might add.
 
Way to attempt to deflect from the salient point, loser.

I guess they didn't teach the Constitution in the sixth grade, did they?

Way to avoid living in reality you moron. I heard a perfect description of you...born on 3rd base and believes he hit a triple...

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8


The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States

Welfare
welfare n. 1. health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being.
 
Wrong criteria, comrade.

Article 1, Section 8...Find the explicit federal authority for the EPA.

Hey right wing Jethro, find the word 'corporation' in ANY founding document.

Matter of FACT, bring me ONE founding father that would ever subscribe to letting corporations kill people.


"Republicans care more about property, Democrats care more about people"
Ted Sorensen

What the hell does this have to do with ANYTHING? We talk about constitutional authority for the EPA and you spew this idiocy?

And BTW... Ted Sorensen is a decrepit old hack... and quite wealthy I might add.

You're the biggest fucking asshole on this board. You desecrate the man whose image you use as your avatar.
 
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Here are further specific details of the Republican Fiscal Sanity Plan...

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In contrast, the Republicans list a number of spending proposals to close the budget gap, most of which has already been introduced to the House and ignored by Nancy Pelosi. It counters the entire narrative of the Party of No, showing that Republicans have attempted to offer ideas to reduce spending and the national debt, or at least to slow down the growth in both. Had Democrats decided to actually produce a budget, they would have had to consider the following:

*Cancel Unused TARP Funds. Prohibit the Treasury Secretary from entering into new commitments under the Troubled Asset Relief Program [TARP]. Ending TARP would prevent up to $396 billion in additional disbursements; CBO estimates savings of $16 billion. H.R. 3140 introduced by Rep. Tom Price of Georgia.

*Cancel Unspent ‘Stimulus’ Funds. Rescind all unobligated budget authority authorized under the “stimulus” bill and dedicate to deficit reduction. Saves up to $266 billion. H.R. 3140 introduced by Rep. Tom Price of Georgia.

*Cut and Cap Discretionary Spending. Return non-defense discretionary spending to pre-Obama (fiscal year 2008) baseline levels. Saves up to $925 billion. Legislation introduced by Reps. Ryan and Hensarling (H.R. 3964) and Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio (H.R 3298) include caps on discretionary spending.

*Reduce Government Employment. Hire one person for every two who leaves civilian government service until the workforce is reduced to pre-Obama levels (exempting the Departments of Defense, Homeland Security, and Veterans Affairs). Saves an estimated $35 billion. H.R. 5348 introduced by Rep. Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming.
Freeze Government Pay. Freeze Federal civilian pay for 1 year. Saves an estimated $30 billion.

*Adopt the Legislative Line-Item Veto. Enact a constitutional line-item veto law. The President’s FY 2011 budget included terminations, reductions, and savings that would achieve $23 billion in one year. While Congress may not accept all these savings, the Line Item Veto can help reduce spending. H.R. 1294 introduced by Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin.

*Reform and Bring Transparency to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Reform these companies by ending conservatorship, shrinking their portfolios, establishing minimum capital standards, reducing conforming loan limits, and bringing transparency to taxpayer exposure. According to CBO, the cost to taxpayers of putting government in control of Fannie and Freddie is $373 billion through 2020. Saves an estimated $30 billion. H.R. 4889 introduced by Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas. H.R. 4653 introduced by Rep. Scott Garrett of New Jersey.

*Create a Sunset Commission. Establish a commission to conduct systematic reviews of Federal programs and agencies, and make recommendations for those that should be terminated; and provide for automatic sunset of programs unless expressly reauthorized by the Congress. H.R. 393 introduced by Rep. Kevin Brady of Texas.

*The biggest gain would come from rolling back non-defense discretionary spending to FY2008 levels, which would save $925 billion over ten years.


Hot Air GOP proposes $1.3 trillion in savings over next 10 years


Well it's a start...

But the fact is that the people who laughably came to power under the hysterical rubric of "Fiscal Responsibility", BRAYING about the OUTRAGEOUS Bush Deficit of 300 Billion... only to have spent TEN TIMES THAT AMOUNT IN DEFICIT IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS.

ROFLMNAO...

Ya can't make this crap up...
 
Wrong criteria, comrade.

Article 1, Section 8...Find the explicit federal authority for the EPA.

Hey right wing Jethro, find the word 'corporation' in ANY founding document.

Matter of FACT, bring me ONE founding father that would ever subscribe to letting corporations kill people.


"Republicans care more about property, Democrats care more about people"
Ted Sorensen

What the hell does this have to do with ANYTHING? We talk about constitutional authority for the EPA and you spew this idiocy?

And BTW... Ted Sorensen is a decrepit old hack... and quite wealthy I might add.


Ya might want to consider ignoring that idiot.

She's amongst the lowest and least common denominators.

Progressives are incapable of recognizing sound principle... and as such have no means to negotiate any position which rest within or upon it.
 
Way to attempt to deflect from the salient point, loser.

I guess they didn't teach the Constitution in the sixth grade, did they?

Way to avoid living in reality you moron. I heard a perfect description of you...born on 3rd base and believes he hit a triple...

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8


The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States

Welfare
welfare n. 1. health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being.
The "general welfare" clause is in the part that's known in English composition as the "introduction"...That means that it gives the general outline and aim of the specific details to follow.

Guess you didn't as well at English as you did at cypherin' in the sixth grade, huh? :lol:
 
Way to attempt to deflect from the salient point, loser.

I guess they didn't teach the Constitution in the sixth grade, did they?

Way to avoid living in reality you moron. I heard a perfect description of you...born on 3rd base and believes he hit a triple...

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8


The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States

Welfare
welfare n. 1. health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being.
The "general welfare" clause is in the part that's known in English composition as the "introduction"...That means that it gives the general outline and aim of the specific details to follow.

Guess you didn't as well at English as you did at cypherin' in the sixth grade, huh? :lol:


ROFLMNAO...

Oh I haven't seen this one brought out in ages... Frankly I thought they had grown tired of being humiliated on the issue.

But few things expose the true depth of idiocy better and at a higher resolution than claiming that the use of the 'welfare' in the US Constitution, authorizes "Welfare".

What it demonstrates is the catastrophic failure of the Western Education System... as well as the sound principle behind the reasoning that the Founders did not give non-vested citizens the right to vote.

That idiot has absolutely no business being allowed anywhere NEAR a voting booth...
 
The Republicans, gearing up for November 2010, and clearly reasserting themselves with the basic conservative principles of sound fiscal policy, have laid out a plan to save the country $1.3 trillion over the next decade...

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Could easily save $3T over a decade just by immediately ending the useless M.E. wars and reducing the Forces to a level consistent with self-defense.
 
Way to attempt to deflect from the salient point, loser.

I guess they didn't teach the Constitution in the sixth grade, did they?

Way to avoid living in reality you moron. I heard a perfect description of you...born on 3rd base and believes he hit a triple...

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8


The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States

Welfare
welfare n. 1. health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being.
The "general welfare" clause is in the part that's known in English composition as the "introduction"...That means that it gives the general outline and aim of the specific details to follow.

Guess you didn't as well at English as you did at cypherin' in the sixth grade, huh? :lol:


You're confused. The United States Constitution contains two references to "the General Welfare", one occurring in the Preamble and the other in the Taxing and Spending Clause.

Preamble
–noun
1. an introductory statement; preface; introduction.

2. the introductory part of a statute, deed, or the like, stating the reasons and intent of what follows.

3. a preliminary or introductory fact or circumstance: His childhood in the slums was a preamble to a life of crime.

4. (initial capital letter) the introductory statement of the U.S. Constitution, setting forth the general principles of American government and beginning with the words, “We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union. …”

Better stick to your childish Washington DC is the biggest corporation...:lol::lol::lol:

Guess you didn't graduate into the REAL world. You live in some ideological Utopian fantasy land. Are you under the narcissistic notion that THIS is the first discussion of the General Welfare clause?

You far right wing 'libertarians' have the brain of a child. Adults have already done the cypherin'

Thankfully...
 

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