Republican Party Afraid...

[hortysir]

They should be concerned, these people if nothing else are making them look even more schizophrenic than the evangelical right makes them look. At the moment they have so many conflicting priorities that I am surprised that there is even a republican party left. Only the universal loathing they have for Obama ties them together, should they achieve their dream of gaining the presidency and both houses these currently low level conflicts will become some of the ugliest political schisms we will see in our lives.

Good thing this election won't be about us.

Wait until Obama gets off-teleprompter and starts stuttering and stammering when Romney calls him out on how much more in the shitter we are today compared to 4 years ago

 

[Shelzin]

lets work together instead of fractional strife dividing us.

Well, if they weren't insane that would be easier to do. How do you work with someone that wants to give the lower classes free everything and doesn’t value American culture?

Do libertarians think that? Trap is still there even in a thread that is about why the Republican party is going to lose. There are more sides than the two.

This is not me saying the quoted is correct, only that there is no way in hell anyone could say that was a libertarian stance.

My disagreements are that I value a culture of freedom and technical advancement, and common sense. I doubt they see eye to eye with that. Pretty good reason for strong disagreement.

They who? We really need people to understand that it's not two sides anymore. It likely never will be again.

 

[Shelzin]

They are just as happy to take advantage of big government when it suits their purposes[/B].

Examples?

But you're not allowed to use anything that Obama voted for OR extended

We are still, to my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong, subsidizing oil while they are still having record profits.

First thing that came to my mind. But honestly... Pick your subsidy.

 

[rdean]

As voter suppression, racism, discrimination, anti science all prove, the Republican Party is the enemy of America. The enemy from within.

 

[hortysir]

They are just as happy to take advantage of big government when it suits their purposes[/B].

Examples?

But you're not allowed to use anything that Obama voted for OR extended

We are still, to my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong, subsidizing oil while they are still having record profits.

First thing that came to my mind. But honestly... Pick your subsidy.

I was thinking more along the lines of Patriot Act, GTMO, Afghanistan, Bush Tax Cuts.......

 

[Shelzin]

Examples?

But you're not allowed to use anything that Obama voted for OR extended

We are still, to my knowledge correct me if I'm wrong, subsidizing oil while they are still having record profits.

First thing that came to my mind. But honestly... Pick your subsidy.

I was thinking more along the lines of Patriot Act, GTMO, Afghanistan, Bush Tax Cuts.......

*laughs* My badd...

 

[Political Junky]

I agree to an extent, I dont like third parties....that's why I like the tea party picking off polticians, it's actually happening....from within....
Now I like alot of Johnson's economic policies, but there is a lot of work to explain to counter the socialism taught in schools to get a majority of people to back it.....or a major paradigm swing......
The reason people dont want to get rid of corporate/income taxes is they are huge methods of control.....liberals talk about getting rid of loopholes, but they never do it...because they want to control people with the tax code.
They like the graduated tax code, because it pits people against each other and that's how socialists work and win, hence they looooove identity politics....what is a black issue? does it not effect everyone????????

Yes, we all know schools are nothing but communist/socialist propaganda factories, and everyone's kids should only be educated at Beck U

Damn right.

 

[buckeye45_73]

I agree to an extent, I dont like third parties....that's why I like the tea party picking off polticians, it's actually happening....from within....
Now I like alot of Johnson's economic policies, but there is a lot of work to explain to counter the socialism taught in schools to get a majority of people to back it.....or a major paradigm swing......
The reason people dont want to get rid of corporate/income taxes is they are huge methods of control.....liberals talk about getting rid of loopholes, but they never do it...because they want to control people with the tax code.
They like the graduated tax code, because it pits people against each other and that's how socialists work and win, hence they looooove identity politics....what is a black issue? does it not effect everyone????????

Yes, we all know schools are nothing but communist/socialist propaganda factories, and everyone's kids should only be educated at Beck U

Damn right.

Finally you guys admit it.....now if you'll just admit the media is liberal.....Doesnt honesty feel gooooooooooooood

 

[LibertyForAll]

I completely disagree that libertarians are the enemy of the republican party. The old guard may see it that way but the truth is embracing libertarian ideals are the only hope the republican party has if it wants to show some conirast. What we are seeing in this election is a culmination of the changes in the republican platform over the years. We have a candidate that is barely different on most issues than the democratic candidate. The only real differences to be found are which economic path we will take.

I am hoping the distaste that most republicans will feel when they pull the lever for Romney will turn into a self loathing so strong it will cause them to re-evaluate the direction the party is headed in.

 

[Shelzin]

I completely disagree that libertarians are the enemy of the republican party.

Quote the first post: I say republican party and not republicans because I've noticed that many republicans don't know enough about other voters to know who the real enemy is when it comes to being elected to POTUS.

I didn't clarify it every time though... So I can see how it got mixed up.

The old guard may see it that way but the truth is embracing libertarian ideals are the only hope the republican party has if it wants to show some conirast. What we are seeing in this election is a culmination of the changes in the republican platform over the years. We have a candidate that is barely different on most issues than the democratic candidate. The only real differences to be found are which economic path we will take.

I absolutely agree.

I am hoping the distaste that most republicans will feel when they pull the lever for Romney will turn into a self loathing so strong it will cause them to re-evaluate the direction the party is headed in.

I'm hoping to start it earlier than that. But I'm at a bit of a loss of how to get them to understand that they can't talk sense into independents and libertarians, without addressing the issues that they are bringing up.

Of course... I'm a little dishonest about what I think the end result will be should they address those issues. But hell... It's not like they'd hate us for it. They'd just wake up to another reality.

 

[LibertyForAll]

I completely disagree that libertarians are the enemy of the republican party.

Quote the first post: I say republican party and not republicans because I've noticed that many republicans don't know enough about other voters to know who the real enemy is when it comes to being elected to POTUS.

I didn't clarify it every time though... So I can see how it got mixed up.

The old guard may see it that way but the truth is embracing libertarian ideals are the only hope the republican party has if it wants to show some conirast. What we are seeing in this election is a culmination of the changes in the republican platform over the years. We have a candidate that is barely different on most issues than the democratic candidate. The only real differences to be found are which economic path we will take.

I absolutely agree.

I am hoping the distaste that most republicans will feel when they pull the lever for Romney will turn into a self loathing so strong it will cause them to re-evaluate the direction the party is headed in.

I'm hoping to start it earlier than that. But I'm at a bit of a loss of how to get them to understand that they can't talk sense into independents and libertarians, without addressing the issues that they are bringing up.

Of course... I'm a little dishonest about what I think the end result will be should they address those issues. But hell... It's not like they'd hate us for it. They'd just wake up to another reality.

Sorry, if I misunderstood.

I agree with you that they cannot reason with us because what they really want is to try and water down our message and eventually wash it away. Libertarianism is about rejecting power for the sake of power and it is a hard pill to swallow for many people. You have to be willing to allow other people to be free even if you don't agree with what they choose to do with that freedom.

 

[blastoff]

Repubs need to fight as dirty as democrats.

I agree. However they are fighting the wrong people... That's the whole point. The enemy of Republicans are not Democrats.

It's independents... It's libertarians.

Yet every poll I've seen has independents abandoning Barry like he's radioactive. As for libertarians, only a moron would believe any significant number of them would vote for this destructive liberal amateur.

Anyway, keep the idiotic theories coming. You clowns are some of the best free entertainment on the planet.

 

[ducks102]

republicans afraid anything this is not blond and blue eyed

 

[Shelzin]

I completely disagree that libertarians are the enemy of the republican party.

Quote the first post: I say republican party and not republicans because I've noticed that many republicans don't know enough about other voters to know who the real enemy is when it comes to being elected to POTUS.

I didn't clarify it every time though... So I can see how it got mixed up.



I absolutely agree.

I am hoping the distaste that most republicans will feel when they pull the lever for Romney will turn into a self loathing so strong it will cause them to re-evaluate the direction the party is headed in.

I'm hoping to start it earlier than that. But I'm at a bit of a loss of how to get them to understand that they can't talk sense into independents and libertarians, without addressing the issues that they are bringing up.

Of course... I'm a little dishonest about what I think the end result will be should they address those issues. But hell... It's not like they'd hate us for it. They'd just wake up to another reality.

Sorry, if I misunderstood.

Oh no buddy... I've come to understand that it happens often enough that I have a problem communicating sometimes. I place no blame, it is what it is.

I agree with you that they cannot reason with us because what they really want is to try and water down our message and eventually wash it away. Libertarianism is about rejecting power for the sake of power and it is a hard pill to swallow for many people. You have to be willing to allow other people to be free even if you don't agree with what they choose to do with that freedom.

But that we agree on... Loud and clear.

 

[Shelzin]

Repubs need to fight as dirty as democrats.

I agree. However they are fighting the wrong people... That's the whole point. The enemy of Republicans are not Democrats.

It's independents... It's libertarians.

Yet every poll I've seen has independents abandoning Barry like he's radioactive. As for libertarians, only a moron would believe any significant number of them would vote for this destructive liberal amateur.

Oh yeah... Polls are great indications...

Anyway, keep the idiotic theories coming. You clowns are some of the best free entertainment on the planet.

No problem...

If Mitt loses... What are you going to blame it on I wonder?

 

[hortysir]

republicans afraid anything this is not blond and blue eyed

And, apparently, you're afraid of grammar