Republican master-debating.

[buckeye45_73]

Boring? I was laughing like crazy. Uneventful? It's going down as the greatest Republican debate performance in Decades.

The moderator did a fabulous job. He let the two of them dialogue and interact with one another. Which is exactly what a debate is.

yeah no kidding, boring yet he says OBama still won...this post shows he's lying...he knows Obama got an ass kicking......hell Ray Charles knows that and he's a dead blind man.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

We all need to admit a few things. First and foremost we all need to admit that it was the most boring and uneventful debate in television history, no zingers, no laughs, no nothing. It was empty and meaningless and the moderator did a lousy job keeping things moving along so we heard nothing about a host of domestic issues that are more important than the lousy tax code that consumed at least half the debate. All Americans were cheated out of the domestic policy debate we deserved.

Second, Romney supporters need to admit that any win he may have scored is more than negated by his disingenuous political calculation to seem moderate rather than reflect the actual philosophy of the republican party. We witnessed nothing more than an act, if Romney wanted to show the people who he is then he failed. We saw a reasonable facade for an unreasonable party of ideologues and reactionaries.

Third and perhaps most important, in the aftermath we see clearly the willingness to settle for anyone other than Obama, even a man who has no hesitation to lie to every one of your faces and change his story depending on who is listening. Does anyone at this point know where he really stands on anything? Where is the republican outrage of finding themselves stuck with a guy who is apparently a domestic policy chameleon?

We now have the clearest example yet that republicans do not care for the quality of their leadership, they only care if he calls himself a republican. Call that crap last night a win if it makes you feel better but the cold hard truth remains that the GOP thinks republican voters are idiots and none of you are doing a damned thing to prove them wrong. The Etch-A-Sketch comment has once again been proven correct, the tea party crowd has been proven devoid of conviction and you have all once again proven that the Rove/Norquist Neo-Cons own you all and that you will love whoever they tell you to with all your shriveled black hearts.

Let’s consider the fact that the ‘horse race’ aspect of presidential elections is nothing new, and not unique to this election. And voters must share most of the blame. The fact is that ‘good’ presidents, and candidates for that office, are an aberration, the bulk of American presidents mediocre to poor.

Indeed, it was the original intent of the Framers that the CE be only an administrator, an apolitical bureaucrat acting as a final check on legislation before it became law and to keep the paperwork of the Federal government in order.

Obviously the Framers were naïve to not anticipate the people of a Western Nation would need a ‘leader’ in whom to invest their National identity.

I consider all the presidents and candidates during my lifetime to be poor to mediocre, including Eisenhower, Kennedy, and in particular Reagan; Obama and Romney are actually among some of the better.

Now, back to the horse race…

Three problems for Romney, the republicans, conservatives, and Obama haters in general:

Romney should have waited until the second or third debate to ‘do well,’ it’s unlikely he’ll be able to meet those high expectations in both remaining debates.

Obama won’t make the same mistake twice.

The first debate may not have been a ‘mistake’ on Obama’s part; the disdain the right has for Obama causes them to underestimate the president.

 

[Listening]

We all need to admit a few things. First and foremost we all need to admit that it was the most boring and uneventful debate in television history, no zingers, no laughs, no nothing. It was empty and meaningless and the moderator did a lousy job keeping things moving along so we heard nothing about a host of domestic issues that are more important than the lousy tax code that consumed at least half the debate. All Americans were cheated out of the domestic policy debate we deserved.

Second, Romney supporters need to admit that any win he may have scored is more than negated by his disingenuous political calculation to seem moderate rather than reflect the actual philosophy of the republican party. We witnessed nothing more than an act, if Romney wanted to show the people who he is then he failed. We saw a reasonable facade for an unreasonable party of ideologues and reactionaries.

Third and perhaps most important, in the aftermath we see clearly the willingness to settle for anyone other than Obama, even a man who has no hesitation to lie to every one of your faces and change his story depending on who is listening. Does anyone at this point know where he really stands on anything? Where is the republican outrage of finding themselves stuck with a guy who is apparently a domestic policy chameleon?

We now have the clearest example yet that republicans do not care for the quality of their leadership, they only care if he calls himself a republican. Call that crap last night a win if it makes you feel better but the cold hard truth remains that the GOP thinks republican voters are idiots and none of you are doing a damned thing to prove them wrong. The Etch-A-Sketch comment has once again been proven correct, the tea party crowd has been proven devoid of conviction and you have all once again proven that the Rove/Norquist Neo-Cons own you all and that you will love whoever they tell you to with all your shriveled black hearts.

Let’s consider the fact that the ‘horse race’ aspect of presidential elections is nothing new, and not unique to this election. And voters must share most of the blame. The fact is that ‘good’ presidents, and candidates for that office, are an aberration, the bulk of American presidents mediocre to poor.

Indeed, it was the original intent of the Framers that the CE be only an administrator, an apolitical bureaucrat acting as a final check on legislation before it became law and to keep the paperwork of the Federal government in order.

Obviously the Framers were naïve to not anticipate the people of a Western Nation would need a ‘leader’ in whom to invest their National identity.

I consider all the presidents and candidates during my lifetime to be poor to mediocre, including Eisenhower, Kennedy, and in particular Reagan; Obama and Romney are actually among some of the better.

Now, back to the horse race…

Three problems for Romney, the republicans, conservatives, and Obama haters in general:

Romney should have waited until the second or third debate to ‘do well,’ it’s unlikely he’ll be able to meet those high expectations in both remaining debates.

Obama won’t make the same mistake twice.

The first debate may not have been a ‘mistake’ on Obama’s part; the disdain the right has for Obama causes them to underestimate the president.

Wishful thinking ????

You bet.

Obama is already at a disadvantage for the next debate.

First, Ryan will dismantle Biden next week.

Libya and Egypt are still to recent to ignore.

Fund raising is up on Romney's side and the senate races are starting to swing back to the GOP.

Let's see how Obama does on his foreign policy record. I can't wait.

 

[The Rabbi]

We all need to admit a few things. First and foremost we all need to admit that it was the most boring and uneventful debate in television history, no zingers, no laughs, no nothing. It was empty and meaningless and the moderator did a lousy job keeping things moving along so we heard nothing about a host of domestic issues that are more important than the lousy tax code that consumed at least half the debate. All Americans were cheated out of the domestic policy debate we deserved.

Second, Romney supporters need to admit that any win he may have scored is more than negated by his disingenuous political calculation to seem moderate rather than reflect the actual philosophy of the republican party. We witnessed nothing more than an act, if Romney wanted to show the people who he is then he failed. We saw a reasonable facade for an unreasonable party of ideologues and reactionaries.

Third and perhaps most important, in the aftermath we see clearly the willingness to settle for anyone other than Obama, even a man who has no hesitation to lie to every one of your faces and change his story depending on who is listening. Does anyone at this point know where he really stands on anything? Where is the republican outrage of finding themselves stuck with a guy who is apparently a domestic policy chameleon?

We now have the clearest example yet that republicans do not care for the quality of their leadership, they only care if he calls himself a republican. Call that crap last night a win if it makes you feel better but the cold hard truth remains that the GOP thinks republican voters are idiots and none of you are doing a damned thing to prove them wrong. The Etch-A-Sketch comment has once again been proven correct, the tea party crowd has been proven devoid of conviction and you have all once again proven that the Rove/Norquist Neo-Cons own you all and that you will love whoever they tell you to with all your shriveled black hearts.

Yeah. Romney didnt admit he wants to raise taxes on the middle class and provide tax cuts to his millionaire friends like the media has been reporting. Romney sounded good but that doesnt matter in the election. Obama's problem was the high altitude in Denver.
Any other spin here?