Republican have always used Socialism as a excuse not to help the American People

Republicans are funny. For them, ideology will always trump everything. Even when the economy is going down the tubes, hey, as long as they can call it "capitalism", then fine.

Everyone that gets some kind if government help is a loafer who is mooching off the government. Doesn't matter if its food stamps for hungry children, loafers. A woman with four children whose husband died, moochers. Funny that Republican have complained that I paint with too broad a brush. They paint with a "push broom".
 
You Dems have some lefties that are crazy as well as the Tea Baggers in my party. Many of us are satisfied with Obama's war on the bad guys, and a sizable minority of us support the reform of a health insurance industry that has become obscenely wealthy of denying coverage to the ill and dying. Really, guys, you need to leave this party and form your own "All for me, all for me Party".
 
Republicans are funny. For them, ideology will always trump everything. Even when the economy is going down the tubes, hey, as long as they can call it "capitalism", then fine.

Everyone that gets some kind if government help is a loafer who is mooching off the government. Doesn't matter if its food stamps for hungry children, loafers. A woman with four children whose husband died, moochers. Funny that Republican have complained that I paint with too broad a brush. They paint with a "push broom".

That's more BS than a little bit. We are smart enough to know the difference between someone who needs help on a permanent basis and someone who hasn't applied for a job in 7 years just because.
 
WikiAnswers - What was President Theodore Roosevelt health care policy

President Theodore Roosevelt was a strong advocate for a nationalized healthcare system in the United States. He was the first of five Presidents to push for it. The five Presidents were:

1.) Theodore Roosevelt
2.) Lyndon B. Johnson
3.) Richard M. Nixon
4.) James E. Carter
5.) William J. Clinton

All of them but one is a real inspiration (sic). That one is just a criminal that quit in disgrace.

Had Nixon not been a paranoid bastard, he would have been remembered as one of the great ones.

Jimmy Carter was the worst President this country ever had and he made your short list so I can understand how you might feel that Nixon was headed for greatness in your mind.
 
Another steaming pile of liberal crap. As a group, Conservatives give far more to charity than Liberals. Liberals like it when OTHER people help the poor, just not them. They prefer to have government act like a charity. Sorry Jim, Government spending is not charity. It is not a voluntary sacrifice by individuals. No matter how beneficial or humane it might be, no matter how necessary it is for providing public services, it is still the obligatory redistribution of tax revenues.

So?

Congress is empowered to "provide for the general welfare." Whether you call it charity or "obligatory redistribution of tax revenues" it's the will of the American People.
 
When you are in light, everything will follow u. But when u enter dark, even your own shadow will not follow u that is life. - HITLER-

Yeah! i agree with you. Socialism? wth is that. We need JUSTICE
 
It is my belief that the govt should provide for the most basic needs for the most vulnerable citizens - poor children, elderly and disabled. Socialism redistributes wealth to able bodied adults who have made bad choices BECAUSE they know Big Daddy govt won't let them starve. It is not anyones responsibilty to provide health ins for anyone who makes 50K or would rather "pursue their art" than find a real fucking job.

And Zander is right about charity. You want to save the bleeding illegal orphans, give directly to the hospital. They'll get 100 percent instead of the 20 percent the feds will hand out.
 
One of the things I find about helping the poor is so forgotten by so many.

No matter what your religious beliefs, You have to admit that the Bible; if nothing else; was written roughly 2000 years ago.

And in this 2000 year old book a man was quoted as saying ""For you always have the poor with you," (John 12:8)

And even before that:
"For the poor will never cease to be in the land; "(Deuteronomy 15:11)

So, for well over 2000 years we have had the poor, and the Democrats have not changed it one bit. But they sure keep on trying to make the rich poor and the poor rich.
 
Another steaming pile of liberal crap. As a group, Conservatives give far more to charity than Liberals. Liberals like it when OTHER people help the poor, just not them. They prefer to have government act like a charity. Sorry Jim, Government spending is not charity. It is not a voluntary sacrifice by individuals. No matter how beneficial or humane it might be, no matter how necessary it is for providing public services, it is still the obligatory redistribution of tax revenues.

So?

Congress is empowered to "provide for the general welfare." Whether you call it charity or "obligatory redistribution of tax revenues" it's the will of the American People.

Yet another ill informed liberal, oye vay!! What are they teaching you people in school these days?? :lol: Sorry my statist friend, you're wrong, dead wrong. The Preamble to the US Constitution says "PROMOTE" the general welfare, not PROVIDE for the general welfare. Those words have very different meanings.

A common misconception among uneducated liberals is that the "General Welfare" mentioned in the constitution is synonymous with our modern "welfare" programs. It is not. "Promote the General welfare" means that Congress should provide laws that are in keeping with the principles of the self governed. It means that Congress may provide legislation that acts in a general best interest of a nation.
 
Another steaming pile of liberal crap. As a group, Conservatives give far more to charity than Liberals. Liberals like it when OTHER people help the poor, just not them. They prefer to have government act like a charity. Sorry Jim, Government spending is not charity. It is not a voluntary sacrifice by individuals. No matter how beneficial or humane it might be, no matter how necessary it is for providing public services, it is still the obligatory redistribution of tax revenues.

So?

Congress is empowered to "provide for the general welfare." Whether you call it charity or "obligatory redistribution of tax revenues" it's the will of the American People.

Yet another ill informed liberal, oye vay!! What are they teaching you people in school these days?? :lol: Sorry my statist friend, you're wrong, dead wrong. The Preamble to the US Constitution says "PROMOTE" the general welfare, not PROVIDE for the general welfare. Those words have very different meanings.

A common misconception among uneducated liberals is that the "General Welfare" mentioned in the constitution is synonymous with our modern "welfare" programs. It is not. "Promote the General welfare" means that Congress should provide laws that are in keeping with the principles of the self governed. It means that Congress may provide legislation that acts in a general best interest of a nation.

Makes me laugh when liberals use the 'general welfare' wording. All it demonstrates is that they have absolutely no understanding whatsoever of the document.
 
So?

Congress is empowered to "provide for the general welfare." Whether you call it charity or "obligatory redistribution of tax revenues" it's the will of the American People.

Yet another ill informed liberal, oye vay!! What are they teaching you people in school these days?? :lol: Sorry my statist friend, you're wrong, dead wrong. The Preamble to the US Constitution says "PROMOTE" the general welfare, not PROVIDE for the general welfare. Those words have very different meanings.

A common misconception among uneducated liberals is that the "General Welfare" mentioned in the constitution is synonymous with our modern "welfare" programs. It is not. "Promote the General welfare" means that Congress should provide laws that are in keeping with the principles of the self governed. It means that Congress may provide legislation that acts in a general best interest of a nation.

Makes me laugh when liberals use the 'general welfare' wording. All it demonstrates is that they have absolutely no understanding whatsoever of the document.

:clap2::clap2:
 
They called child-labor laws an intolerable intrusion on states' rights.

This sums up the republican thought process. Let's go back to the good old days when the disadvantaged were truely disadvantaged and the poor were truely poor.
 
Republicans are funny. For them, ideology will always trump everything. Even when the economy is going down the tubes, hey, as long as they can call it "capitalism", then fine.

Everyone that gets some kind if government help is a loafer who is mooching off the government. Doesn't matter if its food stamps for hungry children, loafers. A woman with four children whose husband died, moochers. Funny that Republican have complained that I paint with too broad a brush. They paint with a "push broom".

That's more BS than a little bit. We are smart enough to know the difference between someone who needs help on a permanent basis and someone who hasn't applied for a job in 7 years just because.

I have not witnessed such evidence.
 
All of them but one is a real inspiration (sic). That one is just a criminal that quit in disgrace.

Had Nixon not been a paranoid bastard, he would have been remembered as one of the great ones.

Jimmy Carter was the worst President this country ever had and he made your short list so I can understand how you might feel that Nixon was headed for greatness in your mind.

Jimmy Carter was worst? Because I knew a US President, in my lifetime, who trashed the Justice Department and the EPA. The greatest mass murderer in US history, a man who killed more civilians than WWI and WWII combined, was let go free by the president I'm describing, and still sends us messages today. A president who started two wars he couldn't finish. A president and political party that left the cost of both wars out of the US budget hoping the country wouldn't "find out". A president who made the world so afraid of us, the rest of the world said we were the most dangerous country on earth.

And Jimmy Carter was "worst"? Ideology once against trumps common sense.
 
FDR Biography Book Review - Nothing to Fear by Adam Cohen - Esquire



As Cohen reminds us, the Republicans fought these changes every step of the way. They said famine relief would turn America into a nation of freeloaders, that capitalism would die without the gold standard. They called child-labor laws an intolerable intrusion on states' rights. During the debate over the Tennessee Valley Authority, so many power-company executives denounced the "socialist plan" that Congress had to schedule an extra day of hearings.

Read more: FDR Biography Book Review - Nothing to Fear by Adam Cohen - Esquire

I think that you should try reading the " Forgotten Man,".

My father-in-law, hated FDR. I was very surprised by his announcement when he stated that, but when he explained that his father and mother immigrated to the northern plains of North Dakada from Austria. There they built a Sod hut then a farm, raised 13 children, paid for EVERYTHING in cash and when the depression hit, they were not allowed to borrow money for seed, because you first had to OWE money before you were able to get any. They lost their farm and the family lost their home that they had worked years for.

Again, the responsble people were destroyed by his plan and the irresponsible or slackers were helped.

" The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher.
 
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Republicans are funny. For them, ideology will always trump everything. Even when the economy is going down the tubes, hey, as long as they can call it "capitalism", then fine.

Everyone that gets some kind if government help is a loafer who is mooching off the government. Doesn't matter if its food stamps for hungry children, loafers. A woman with four children whose husband died, moochers. Funny that Republican have complained that I paint with too broad a brush. They paint with a "push broom".

That's more BS than a little bit. We are smart enough to know the difference between someone who needs help on a permanent basis and someone who hasn't applied for a job in 7 years just because.

I have not witnessed such evidence.

You have not witnessed such evidence??- try walking through the slums of New York and Chicago- 5th and 6th generations on welfare. Try the Tennesee valley, more welfare, that's all they know and it all started with FDR. There are many who work the system, they make it their job to work the system and they are parasites on the rest of us.

As far as compassion, Conservatives are far more compassionate for the needy than liberals are. Why don't you fact check that and compare Obama's charitable donations as compared to Bush's or better yet Cheney's to Biden's. Just google search it and I think you will find it quite to your distaste, it certainly does not support your views. Conservatives think it a much better deal to " teach someone how to fish, then to just give them fish."

Liberals are great givers when it comes to giving with SOMEONE ELSE'S money, not their own. Obama's brother still lives in a shack in Africa.
 
Compare donation from Bush to Obama? Or Cheney to Biden? That's the "proof"?

OK, let's look at some of that evidence. Bush's father was a former president. He was put through Harvard. His father protected him from prosecution by the SEC. He managed to move hundreds of people out of their property so he could make money on the land surrounding his new stadium. He headed or was on the board of directors of three companies that went bankrupt and ended up with at least 30 million dollars. Who goes bankrupt and ends up with money?

Obama was on food stamps as a child. He didn't pay off his student loans until he was forty.

Biden is hardly a millionaire.

Cheney was the head of Halliburton. With the no bid contracts him and Bush passed out like candy corn, his stock options when up over 5,000%.

I don't know what to say. Do Republicans know anything about the awful people they promote? Seriously. What is going on with those people?
 
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Republicans are funny. For them, ideology will always trump everything. Even when the economy is going down the tubes, hey, as long as they can call it "capitalism", then fine.

Everyone that gets some kind if government help is a loafer who is mooching off the government. Doesn't matter if its food stamps for hungry children, loafers. A woman with four children whose husband died, moochers. Funny that Republican have complained that I paint with too broad a brush. They paint with a "push broom".

That's more BS than a little bit. We are smart enough to know the difference between someone who needs help on a permanent basis and someone who hasn't applied for a job in 7 years just because.

I have not witnessed such evidence.

You would have to take off your blinders.
 
Had Nixon not been a paranoid bastard, he would have been remembered as one of the great ones.

Jimmy Carter was the worst President this country ever had and he made your short list so I can understand how you might feel that Nixon was headed for greatness in your mind.

Jimmy Carter was worst? Because I knew a US President, in my lifetime, who trashed the Justice Department and the EPA. The greatest mass murderer in US history, a man who killed more civilians than WWI and WWII combined, was let go free by the president I'm describing, and still sends us messages today. A president who started two wars he couldn't finish. A president and political party that left the cost of both wars out of the US budget hoping the country wouldn't "find out". A president who made the world so afraid of us, the rest of the world said we were the most dangerous country on earth.

And Jimmy Carter was "worst"? Ideology once against trumps common sense.

Now we know you're nuts. More civilians than WW1 and 2 combined? :cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
 

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