Republican eating their own

[J.E.D]

What? Romneycare could have saved this man's wife? We can't say that. Romneycare? What's this Romneycare of which you speak?



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Marsha Blackburn, GOP Congresswoman, Refuses To Acknowledge Romneycare (VIDEO)

CNN host Brooke Baldwin played [GOP Rep] Blackburn a clip of Saul's gaffe on Thursday morning, in which the spokeswoman responded to a super PAC attack ad on Romney by pointing out that the steelworker in the ad, who lost his wife to cancer, would have had health insurance if he lived in Massachusetts under Romney's universal health care plan. Conservatives have since lambasted Saul for going off message in bringing up Romneycare, which Democrats often point out is remarkably similar to Obamacare. Conservative CNN contributor Erick Erickson tweeted, "OMG. This might just be the moment Mitt Romney lost the election."

Blackburn continued to roll out anti-Obamacare talking points as Baldwin tried multiple times to interrupt her and steer the conversation back to Romneycare. "With all due respect, Congresswoman, we're talking about Mitt Romney," Baldwin said. "We're talking about a Mitt Romney spokesperson and specifically asking you to react to her comment. We played the sound bite where she is basically saying had this man gone to Massachusetts where he would have had health care, perhaps this would have prevented his wife's death. This has nothing to do with Obamacare."

 

[ClosedCaption]

Mann Coulter hyperventilated all over Hannity, While Hannity tried to convince her to get back in line

Rush Limbaugh lost that his mind

Erik Erikson said this is where he lost the election

But you think that will stop repubs from blaming Liberals for Republicans actions? Dont be silly...

Just vote for him and hope that he doesnt go rouge

 

[Katzndogz]

States should be free to institute their own programs if they wish.

Although this woman did have insurance when she got sick so the whole thing was a lie from the beginning.

 

[J.E.D]

States are free to implement their own plans. Obama has said repeatedly that under the law, if states can come up with a plan that would insure as many people and keep costs down as much as the ACA, then they are free to do so, and HHS will assist them in the implementation of those laws. Vermont is in the process of passing single-payer as we speak.

ThinkProgress: Schakowsky: If The GOP Supports States

Included within the recently passed health care law is a provision that allows states to propose their own pilot health care programs and seek a waiver from the federal health care law so that they can pursue their own approaches to health care reform. The current law allows states to pursue these waivers in 2017.

Vermont Continues Working Towards A Universal Health Care System | FDL Action

The government of Vermont continues to chug along with their multi-year plan to establish a universal health care system modeled on single payer.

The eventual plan in Vermont is to create a universal public health insurance system, but the Affordable Care Act doesn’t allow states to apply for a total wavier to create a better system until 2017. This means Vermont is required to create an exchange for 2014, which the state will try to use as a stepping stone for implementing their full plan in 2017, if they receive the necessary waivers.

 

[philsphan04]

State implementation of healthcare is distinct from a federal implementation. Either way, it's difficult to justify penalizing (or is it "taxing"? ) people for not buying a product.

 

[Conservadude]

It should start in the states. There should be no "federal health program" at all. Leave it completely to the states. There are some reforms that can be done.. But forcing people in all 50 states to buy healthcare isn't one of them. What works for Mass., may not work in Va.

 

[philsphan04]

That's true. I still have a hard time with the concept of anyone (state or federal level) requiring people to buy health insurance or any other product. I suppose individual states could implement certain changes to healthcare that would make coverage more accessible to people.

 

[Truthmatters]

why?


why not national?

You gave no sane reason

 

[ClosedCaption]

It wont work!

Why not?

It just WONT!

 

[philsphan04]

why?


why not national?

You gave no sane reason

I think reasonable people can disagree. I was just expressing my view, not looking for a debate.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Progs lie and now they are on record as not caring that they get called on their lies.

It can't be dealt with by niceties, Coulter is right. Progs are pathological liars and we can't tiptoe around it any longer

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It should start in the states. There should be no "federal health program" at all. Leave it completely to the states. There are some reforms that can be done.. But forcing people in all 50 states to buy healthcare isn't one of them. What works for Mass., may not work in Va.

You meant all 57 states, right?

 

[g5000]

It should start in the states. There should be no "federal health program" at all. Leave it completely to the states. There are some reforms that can be done.. But forcing people in all 50 states to buy healthcare isn't one of them. What works for Mass., may not work in Va.

Forcing anyone to buy health insurance is wrong. Whether a state does it or the federal government does it is a distinction without a difference.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Ahhh, I see the old "its the liberals fault" talking point came out to play. Ann Coulter attacks Romney and it's the liberals fault. Riiiiiiiight.

 

[aaronleland]

Progs lie and now they are on record as not caring that they get called on their lies.

It can't be dealt with by niceties, Coulter is right. Progs are pathological liars and we can't tiptoe around it any longer

Leave it to CrusaderFrank to make a post bashing liberals while adding nothing even related to the topic being discussed.

"Romneycare vs. Obamacare?"

"Libruls iz lyin devils."

 

[The Rabbi]

Progs lie and now they are on record as not caring that they get called on their lies.

It can't be dealt with by niceties, Coulter is right. Progs are pathological liars and we can't tiptoe around it any longer

Leave it to CrusaderFrank to make a post bashing liberals while adding nothing even related to the topic being discussed.

"Romneycare vs. Obamacare?"

"Libruls iz lyin devils."

There's nothing to discuss. It is a non-issue. The Obama campaign was caught lying and now want to change the subject. Again. Who cares if the woman needed to live in MA? In fact she had health insurance all the time. So she didnt need to live in MA. It's a hoax. And you're the hoaxee.

 

[aaronleland]

Progs lie and now they are on record as not caring that they get called on their lies.

It can't be dealt with by niceties, Coulter is right. Progs are pathological liars and we can't tiptoe around it any longer

Leave it to CrusaderFrank to make a post bashing liberals while adding nothing even related to the topic being discussed.

"Romneycare vs. Obamacare?"

"Libruls iz lyin devils."

There's nothing to discuss. It is a non-issue. The Obama campaign was caught lying and now want to change the subject. Again. Who cares if the woman needed to live in MA? In fact she had health insurance all the time. So she didnt need to live in MA. It's a hoax. And you're the hoaxee.

I don't support Obama or the ACA for that matter, but responding to almost every topic with "Derp liberals lie." adds nothing to the discussion.

I know people like you think that everyone who criticizes a conservative must be a liberal, but alot of conservatives on this board have a tendency to respond to most arguments with something like "You're wrong fuckwad. Lying liberals." It adds nothing to the discussion and makes you look like an ass.

 

[The Rabbi]

Leave it to CrusaderFrank to make a post bashing liberals while adding nothing even related to the topic being discussed.

"Romneycare vs. Obamacare?"

"Libruls iz lyin devils."

There's nothing to discuss. It is a non-issue. The Obama campaign was caught lying and now want to change the subject. Again. Who cares if the woman needed to live in MA? In fact she had health insurance all the time. So she didnt need to live in MA. It's a hoax. And you're the hoaxee.

I don't support Obama or the ACA for that matter, but responding to almost every topic with "Derp liberals lie." adds nothing to the discussion.

I know people like you think that everyone who criticizes a conservative must be a liberal, but alot of conservatives on this board have a tendency to respond to most arguments with something like "You're wrong fuckwad. Lying liberals." It adds nothing to the discussion and makes you look like an ass.

Welcome to USMB.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Progs lie and now they are on record as not caring that they get called on their lies.

It can't be dealt with by niceties, Coulter is right. Progs are pathological liars and we can't tiptoe around it any longer

Leave it to CrusaderFrank to make a post bashing liberals while adding nothing even related to the topic being discussed.

"Romneycare vs. Obamacare?"

"Libruls iz lyin devils."

Topic: here. Libs caught lying
You: not here.

See the problem?

 

[J.E.D]

Progs lie and now they are on record as not caring that they get called on their lies.

It can't be dealt with by niceties, Coulter is right. Progs are pathological liars and we can't tiptoe around it any longer

Leave it to CrusaderFrank to make a post bashing liberals while adding nothing even related to the topic being discussed.

"Romneycare vs. Obamacare?"

"Libruls iz lyin devils."

There's nothing to discuss. It is a non-issue. The Obama campaign was caught lying and now want to change the subject. Again. Who cares if the woman needed to live in MA? In fact she had health insurance all the time. So she didnt need to live in MA. It's a hoax. And you're the hoaxee.

Sorry, but this thread isn't about Obama supposedly lying; it's about Republicans getting pissed that a Romney spokesperson dare bring up his only legislative achievement in response to the ad in question.

What's funny is, it was a perfectly reasonable and sane response; but Republicans have demonized the ACA (Obamacare) so much that they don't dare praise, or even talk about, Romneycare because they know that the Obamacare is modeled after Romneycare, and they know they'll look like complete hypocrites.

His only legislative achievement and he can't even talk about it.



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