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I am expectant in hearing your theories of how USA did build-up Turkish industry.
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Republic of Türkiye
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I am expectant in hearing your theories of how USA did build-up Turkish industry.
The Ottoman Empire is a big reason for the mess in the middle east! Of course you Muslim are quick to point the finger at everyone but yourselves. Turkey a huge culprit in the chaos. Just as you were responsible for the sole genocide during WW I!
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Tell me something, which group do you work for?
And why lobby this site?
Further, if anyone wants some insight into the Turks, they can look at how they treated us when we needed them. And it had nothing to do with them feeling that going into Iraq was wrong. It was because we would not be letting them slaughter the Kurds as they have in the past.
Gosh, i don't recall you asking toomuchtime_ that same question.. geee, the double standard is amazing. A turk posting about his muslim nation gets flak while the standard issue retinue of zionist jews get nothing less than a sloppy blowjob. SAY IT AINT SO!
My complaints with Turkey are more than fair. Further wanting to know which propaganda group a person represents is a fair question. since I am not a Zionist, I don't understand your last comments. I stated fact and asked fair question, that is not flack! Grow up!
Geee. someone riding a double standard who thinks their one sided approach is FAIR?!?!?!
SAY.
IT.
AINT.
SO!
Turkey's War Crimes
by Kani Xulam
January 28, 1996
Just a few weeks ago, "The European", a weekly newspaper published in London, England, had a picture with a warning on its front page. It showed a Turkish soldier holding the decapitated heads of two Kurds. The caption read: "Pictures that will shock the world."
A closer look at the pictures and the story which accompanies them reveals that these photographs depict the triumph of five Turkish soldiers over the dead bodies of four Kurdish rebels. In one picture, two of the naked Kurds are headless, one lying on his back and the other on his stomach. The first has a rope tied to his ankles and the second has a rope tied around his trunk, betraying the not uncommon practice of dragging dead bodies behind armored vehicles in Turkey's southeast. Historians tell us that the warriors of Ghengis Khan did the same to their victims, only with horses rather than army vehicles.
In another picture, a soldier in his twenties is holding the two severed heads while smiling at the camera and his comrade in the background is smirking. There are other pictures and other depravities. Suffice it to note that one is uglier than the other and each alone is enough to make Kurds and their friends sick for days.
For days now, I have been staring at these pictures. I have been telling myself: "One of the decapitated heads is yours." It is an eerie feeling. Just stop and think of it: somebody staring at you holding your decapitated head. I have made a point of looking at the reactions of Kurds who confront these pictures for the first time. They feel utterly numb. Think of a people without faith, without love, without hope and with lots of pain. That is what the Kurds of Turkey have become.
These pictures and the heinous crimes they show are not aberrations. These scenes are repeated often in southeastern Turkey, the historical land of the Kurds. Armed with East German rifles, West German armored vehicles and sophisticated American weapons, Turkish soldiers are creating the largest moonscape on the face the earth, raining death and destruction on the Kurds and their land. House Concurrent Resolution 136 of the 104th Congress notes that more than 2,650 Kurdish villages have been destroyed in this most recent Turkish assault on the Kurds.
The French philosopher Voltaire wrote that the worst kind of death is to be obscurely hanged. The slaughter of the Turkish Kurds is a good example of that. Ask the Kurds for the name of a people that supports their cause for civil rights and there is not an answer.
In Turkey, where the majority of an estimated 25 to 30 million Kurds live, resistance is costly; as the pictures show, even your dead body is not immune from abuse and degradation. Public office is costly, too, as is proven by the case of 13 duly elected Kurdish deputies who lost their seats in the Turkish Parliament. Four were sentenced to 15 years in prison for advocating the legitimate rights of their people.
Ankara has tried everything in its power to discourage the Kurds from demanding their rights. It has tried force. Nothing has come of it. It has tried the "village guard" system in which poor Kurds are armed to teeth and inculcated with hatred for their kin. The upshot has been a disaster: Kurds killing Kurds to the chagrin of their friends. It has tried religion, the opium of masses in the words of Karl Marx, and again the policy has not worked. But something quite unexpected has taken root in Turkey because of the heavy emphasis on religion.
The Islamic Welfare Party scored the highest number of votes in Turkey's latest parliamentary elections. This was the result of an unscrupulous campaign by Turkey's leaders, first to undermine the rising tide of Kurdish national consciousness by inculcating a universalistic Islamic ideology which they considered less dangerous than the Kurds, second by using the rising tide of Islamic threat in order to manipulate opinions in the European Union and the United States so as to secure closer military and economic ties.
The late Egyptian President Anwar Sadat encouraged Islamic fundamentalist organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood in order to use them against alienated Egyptian youth who were increasingly turning to Marxism. But he himself became the victim of the forces to which he gave a free reign. Members of the Muslim Brotherhood within the Egyptian military gunned him down.
Maybe there is something called poetic justice in the world. Maybe we Kurds will get our civil rights after Turkey travels the same road taken by Iran. Maybe then the State Department will recognize our sacrifices of pain and blood and let us have our due.
by Kani Xulam
January 28, 1996
Just a few weeks ago, "The European", a weekly newspaper published in London, England, had a picture with a warning on its front page. It showed a Turkish soldier holding the decapitated heads of two Kurds. The caption read: "Pictures that will shock the world."
A closer look at the pictures and the story which accompanies them reveals that these photographs depict the triumph of five Turkish soldiers over the dead bodies of four Kurdish rebels. In one picture, two of the naked Kurds are headless, one lying on his back and the other on his stomach. The first has a rope tied to his ankles and the second has a rope tied around his trunk, betraying the not uncommon practice of dragging dead bodies behind armored vehicles in Turkey's southeast. Historians tell us that the warriors of Ghengis Khan did the same to their victims, only with horses rather than army vehicles.
In another picture, a soldier in his twenties is holding the two severed heads while smiling at the camera and his comrade in the background is smirking. There are other pictures and other depravities. Suffice it to note that one is uglier than the other and each alone is enough to make Kurds and their friends sick for days.
For days now, I have been staring at these pictures. I have been telling myself: "One of the decapitated heads is yours." It is an eerie feeling. Just stop and think of it: somebody staring at you holding your decapitated head. I have made a point of looking at the reactions of Kurds who confront these pictures for the first time. They feel utterly numb. Think of a people without faith, without love, without hope and with lots of pain. That is what the Kurds of Turkey have become.
These pictures and the heinous crimes they show are not aberrations. These scenes are repeated often in southeastern Turkey, the historical land of the Kurds. Armed with East German rifles, West German armored vehicles and sophisticated American weapons, Turkish soldiers are creating the largest moonscape on the face the earth, raining death and destruction on the Kurds and their land. House Concurrent Resolution 136 of the 104th Congress notes that more than 2,650 Kurdish villages have been destroyed in this most recent Turkish assault on the Kurds.
The French philosopher Voltaire wrote that the worst kind of death is to be obscurely hanged. The slaughter of the Turkish Kurds is a good example of that. Ask the Kurds for the name of a people that supports their cause for civil rights and there is not an answer.
In Turkey, where the majority of an estimated 25 to 30 million Kurds live, resistance is costly; as the pictures show, even your dead body is not immune from abuse and degradation. Public office is costly, too, as is proven by the case of 13 duly elected Kurdish deputies who lost their seats in the Turkish Parliament. Four were sentenced to 15 years in prison for advocating the legitimate rights of their people.
Ankara has tried everything in its power to discourage the Kurds from demanding their rights. It has tried force. Nothing has come of it. It has tried the "village guard" system in which poor Kurds are armed to teeth and inculcated with hatred for their kin. The upshot has been a disaster: Kurds killing Kurds to the chagrin of their friends. It has tried religion, the opium of masses in the words of Karl Marx, and again the policy has not worked. But something quite unexpected has taken root in Turkey because of the heavy emphasis on religion.
The Islamic Welfare Party scored the highest number of votes in Turkey's latest parliamentary elections. This was the result of an unscrupulous campaign by Turkey's leaders, first to undermine the rising tide of Kurdish national consciousness by inculcating a universalistic Islamic ideology which they considered less dangerous than the Kurds, second by using the rising tide of Islamic threat in order to manipulate opinions in the European Union and the United States so as to secure closer military and economic ties.
The late Egyptian President Anwar Sadat encouraged Islamic fundamentalist organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood in order to use them against alienated Egyptian youth who were increasingly turning to Marxism. But he himself became the victim of the forces to which he gave a free reign. Members of the Muslim Brotherhood within the Egyptian military gunned him down.
Maybe there is something called poetic justice in the world. Maybe we Kurds will get our civil rights after Turkey travels the same road taken by Iran. Maybe then the State Department will recognize our sacrifices of pain and blood and let us have our due.
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Black Sea oil to meet turkeys needs for 40 yrs
The Black Sea has a massive amount of oil and natural gas resources, comparable to those of the Caspian Sea -- enough to meet Turkey's needs for the coming 40 years, the general manager of Turkey's state-owned oil exploration and drilling company has said.
Turkish Petroleum Corporation (TPAO) General Manager Mehmet Uysal noted that estimates based on the findings of sonar-equipped oil exploration ships show that there are at least 10 billion barrels of oil reserves beneath the Black Sea.
In addition to this, some 1.5 trillion cubic meters of gas lie beneath the sea, he said, and added that the US's Exxon Mobil and Brazil's Petrobras exploring for oil in the region. Uysal further underlined that these resources will help Turkey slash its costs and that it plans to pay $600 billion for the import of crude oil in the next 10 years.
Black Sea oil to meet turkeyâs needs for 40 yrs
The Black Sea has a massive amount of oil and natural gas resources, comparable to those of the Caspian Sea -- enough to meet Turkey's needs for the coming 40 years, the general manager of Turkey's state-owned oil exploration and drilling company has said.
Turkish Petroleum Corporation (TPAO) General Manager Mehmet Uysal noted that estimates based on the findings of sonar-equipped oil exploration ships show that there are at least 10 billion barrels of oil reserves beneath the Black Sea.
In addition to this, some 1.5 trillion cubic meters of gas lie beneath the sea, he said, and added that the US's Exxon Mobil and Brazil's Petrobras exploring for oil in the region. Uysal further underlined that these resources will help Turkey slash its costs and that it plans to pay $600 billion for the import of crude oil in the next 10 years.
Black Sea oil to meet turkeyâs needs for 40 yrs
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Black Sea oil to meet turkeys needs for 40 yrs
The Black Sea has a massive amount of oil and natural gas resources, comparable to those of the Caspian Sea -- enough to meet Turkey's needs for the coming 40 years, the general manager of Turkey's state-owned oil exploration and drilling company has said.
Turkish Petroleum Corporation (TPAO) General Manager Mehmet Uysal noted that estimates based on the findings of sonar-equipped oil exploration ships show that there are at least 10 billion barrels of oil reserves beneath the Black Sea.
In addition to this, some 1.5 trillion cubic meters of gas lie beneath the sea, he said, and added that the US's Exxon Mobil and Brazil's Petrobras exploring for oil in the region. Uysal further underlined that these resources will help Turkey slash its costs and that it plans to pay $600 billion for the import of crude oil in the next 10 years.
Black Sea oil to meet turkeyâs needs for 40 yrs
I want to deepen into the subject:
Off course total amount of reserves are important, but more important is at which rate you can exploit the ressources (barrel / day).
Petrobras which is the most specialized Off-Shore driller in the world expects to produce 100.000 barrels from its share of the territorial block by 2020.
Petrobras stalls US Gulf operations - Upstreamonline
That alone is more then the inland consumption of Turkey.
Also Turkey will drill in another block in the Black Sea with Chevron
Chevron 'nears Turkish E&P deal' - Upstreamonline
And with ExxonMobil
TPAO seals exploration deals - Upstreamonline
We are also negotiating with German RWE which has a revenue of 48 billion
RWE AG - Annual Report 2008 - Consolidated Financial Statements
Karadenizde Chevron ve RWE de petrol arayacak / Ekonomi / Radikal Ýnternet
These are all big players in Oil business with multi-billion dollar revenues and they surely would not invest in Black Sea drilling if they would not expect a return.
The green marked areas are the blocks where Turkey will drill together with Petrobras. The yellow marked areas will be the areas where Turkey will drill together with Exxon and Chevron. Also, which i did not mentioned above a Texan Oil company EOG Group also got a licence to drill with Turkey. But EOG Group is a smaller company with just 3,9 billion $ turnover
100 Best Companies to Work For 2008: EOG Resources snapshot | FORTUNE
TPAO seals exploration deals - Upstreamonline
How the yellow marked areas will be shared i can not say at this point, yet. In nearest future also other areas of Black Sea will be put into "auction"/farm-out.
In a not too far distant future (a couple of years) Turkey will be self-sustaining in Oil and Natural Gas. This will kick off a total new industry-sector for Turkey generating growth. Turkish state company TPAO, which is drilling in Joint-Ventures with above mentioned companies will generate much money for the Turkish state. Also Turkish state has royality shares from the production of Chevron, Exxon etc. and off course tax income from the production, revenues and sales.
Also Turkey will not any more have to pay money for its ressources to abroad, but the money will stay in Turkey. The money will be circulated in Turkey. Only in the next 10 years Turkey would have to pay 600 billion $ for oil import
Black Sea oil to meet turkeyâs needs for 40 yrs[/quote]
Natural Gas is not calculated in this. When this money stays in Turkish Economy it is good for Turkey.
We are already the world's 15th largest economy. Our economy is not based on ressources. If you add the whole coming ressource-sector into this calculation Turkey will do much better in future. The Turkish state budget will then get also income from ressources to spent, which it currently does not have. More money for everything from infrastructural development over education to army.
Turkish Naval Forces are planning to establish a new military base in the country's Black Sea province of Trabzon.
The planned military base will be the second on the countrys Black Sea coast.
Turkey planning to open a new military base in the Black Sea coast
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Undeterred by Financial Crisis, Turkish Defense Companies Plan to Increase Domestic Arms Production
It is estimated that Turkey has been spending about $5 billion for arms per year and according to a report released by the country's main arms procurement agency, has set a goal to increase the share of the arms produced domestically to 58 percent of the production from 107 military procurement projects. Direct purchases are to account for 16 percent, production with a consortium 2 percent, and joint production 24 percent.
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It is estimated that Turkey has been spending about $5 billion for arms per year and according to a report released by the country's main arms procurement agency, has set a goal to increase the share of the arms produced domestically to 58 percent of the production from 107 military procurement projects. Direct purchases are to account for 16 percent, production with a consortium 2 percent, and joint production 24 percent.
single - The Jamestown Foundation[tt_news]=34568&tx_ttnews[backPid]=390&cHash=33becc173a
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These days Stratfor founder George Friedman is in Turkey and participates in several platforms.
US Expert Friedmann: Turkey will 'rule' former Ottoman territories by 2040
... since Friedman is the manager of one of the most important U.S. strategic research centers "Stratfor", and is close to the Pentagon. He claims that the process has already begun in regional Islamic countries, where Turkey's influence is constantly rising.
Friedman assesses that Turkey is characterized by two things - "live" economy and strong army. According to him, Turkey has the 17th largest global economy, whereas it will move in the top 10 by 2020.
MINA Breaking News - US Expert: Turkey will 'rule' former Ottoman territories by 2040
Free Article for Non-Members | StratforOnly one-fifth of Turkey’s population is non-Turkish, while roughly half of Iran is non-Persian. Iran requires a large army simply to maintain rule at home, while Turkey has the relative freedom to expend resources on power projection tools such as an air force and navy. The difference shines through in their respective economies as well. Despite having nearly identical populations in terms of size, Iran’s economy is only two-fifths the size of Turkey’s. Even in the battle of ideologies, Turkey retains the advantage. The Arab majority in the region prefer Turkey — a fellow Sunni power — to take the lead in managing regional affairs, whereas Shiite Persian Iran is the historical rival of the Arab world.
US Expert Friedmann: Turkey will 'rule' former Ottoman territories by 2040
... since Friedman is the manager of one of the most important U.S. strategic research centers "Stratfor", and is close to the Pentagon. He claims that the process has already begun in regional Islamic countries, where Turkey's influence is constantly rising.
Friedman assesses that Turkey is characterized by two things - "live" economy and strong army. According to him, Turkey has the 17th largest global economy, whereas it will move in the top 10 by 2020.
MINA Breaking News - US Expert: Turkey will 'rule' former Ottoman territories by 2040
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Clinton in Turkey speaks of 'friend for all times' - 2nd Update
Clinton in Turkey speaks of 'friend for all times' - 2nd Update : Middle East World
Obama to visit Turkey, first trip to Muslim nation
Obama to visit Turkey, first trip to Muslim nation | Politics | Reuters
Obama's visit will be his sixth visit to a foreign country after Canada, Britain, France, Germany and the Czech Republic.
The Czechs currently have the EU presidency for 6 months, so it is not unusual Obama visiting there.
I think this shows the importance the new US-Administration in the relations with Turkey.
Clinton in Turkey speaks of 'friend for all times' - 2nd Update : Middle East World
Obama to visit Turkey, first trip to Muslim nation
Obama to visit Turkey, first trip to Muslim nation | Politics | Reuters
Obama's visit will be his sixth visit to a foreign country after Canada, Britain, France, Germany and the Czech Republic.
The Czechs currently have the EU presidency for 6 months, so it is not unusual Obama visiting there.
I think this shows the importance the new US-Administration in the relations with Turkey.
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As it stands now there is only a small possibility, that Obama will choose Turkey for his "Islam-Relations" speech which is expected from him to be spoken in an Islamic country. Newspapers report here that political Ankara does also not want Obama holding his "Islam"-speech over here. Actually this is a good sign, because the visit of Obama will not be made due to this speech. He can visit another neighbouring country just for the sake of speaking to the "Islamic World".
If he would have chosen Turkey for his speech it would be perceived with a bitter conspiracy aftertaste as if the U.S. had chosen Turkey to be leader of the Islamic world in the form of "Hey, look bad guys this is the good guy". In such a leadership position Turkey is growing anyway whether USA supports or disklikes does not matter, we have no gift to take from anyone, we grow into that position by power, determination and self-confidence.
The visit of Obama which will be likely on 6th or 7th March equaling to the 77th day Obama in office will be made as damage controll from Bush era. This signals the determination of the Obama administration to repair the relations with Turkey. And off course US wants not to repair the relations with Turkey because US has gone from Saulus to Paulus with Obama, but US has no other option. USA can not make any adventures around here without Turkey, contrary thinking circles in USA will crash the plane as Bush did.
Some circles in the US wanted to play hardball with Turkey between the period 2003-2007. This pictured itself in USA blocking Turkish power projection into Iraq, looking away from PKK and making Iraq a No-Go zone for Turkey and putting Armenian resolutions in your congress. When Turkey threatened to play hardball back and called its ambassador from Washington home, Bush who logically did not like Turkey and her current leaders because Turkish stance on Bush adventures was primarily the cause of Bush failure around here as Rumfsfeld said several times had no option to come to terms with Turkey. Some quotes from that period:
Now there is not coming anymore beep-beeps from Barzani, Kirkuk stays Iraqi, North-Iraqi airspace is de-facto Turkish airspace, US satellites cruise orbit producing intelligence for Turkish general staff and Bush himself making CIA giving Turkey informations it does not even give UK or Germany.
Kurden-Konflikt: Bush verspricht Erdogan Zugriff auf CIA-Daten - Nachrichten Politik - WELT ONLINE
Google Translation http://www.welt.de/politik/article1337019/Bush_verspricht_Erdogan_Zugriff_auf_CIA_Daten.html
This all in an environment where the personal interactions by state leaders do also count in diplomacy between states and we can write down that the "personal connection" between the US government and Turkish government was icy. Would Turkey have cooperated with Bush adventurer Bush would not have been remembered as plane crasher but as "Democracy Lighthouse Builder of Bagdad". Sounds arrogant but Turkish support would have meant a sure enough stabilizing factor for US plane under Bush pilot.
Obama and Biden assured Armenian voters and "Armenian genocide faking mafia"-Lobies within USA to recognize this mafia produced faking. Off course during his presidential campaign Obama did not have access to state knowledge. Now Obama has access to this state knowledge and diplomacy canals are open for him, welcome in the reality Mr. Obama, you are facing the Turkish hardball player with its anatomically and sports meant steel balls.
Such a joy to see in the faces of people like "Lycurgus" from above which made some beep-beeps in that direction.
As i already said, US wants not to leave behind Bush era with Turkey because Obama-America is the do-gooder for just the sake of doing good, but Realpolitik paves the way for "Armenian Genocide"-Promisser Obama.
Realpolitik from US view gives the need
- for Turkey cooperating in the redeployment of US-Forces from Iraq
- growing into regional vacuum filler not against US interests
- not taking steps making life of Israel harder
- more Turkish soldiers for Afghanistan
- widening Incirlik airbase after Kyrgiszistan F*U.
- reverting cooperation with Iran
- distributing Turkish capacities to stop Iranian outreach in non-Iran Middle-East which is within Turkish reach
- reverting cooperation with Russia and join pressuring campaign against Russia, as Turkey is the NATO-country with most tools to pressure Russia
If he would have chosen Turkey for his speech it would be perceived with a bitter conspiracy aftertaste as if the U.S. had chosen Turkey to be leader of the Islamic world in the form of "Hey, look bad guys this is the good guy". In such a leadership position Turkey is growing anyway whether USA supports or disklikes does not matter, we have no gift to take from anyone, we grow into that position by power, determination and self-confidence.
The visit of Obama which will be likely on 6th or 7th March equaling to the 77th day Obama in office will be made as damage controll from Bush era. This signals the determination of the Obama administration to repair the relations with Turkey. And off course US wants not to repair the relations with Turkey because US has gone from Saulus to Paulus with Obama, but US has no other option. USA can not make any adventures around here without Turkey, contrary thinking circles in USA will crash the plane as Bush did.
Some circles in the US wanted to play hardball with Turkey between the period 2003-2007. This pictured itself in USA blocking Turkish power projection into Iraq, looking away from PKK and making Iraq a No-Go zone for Turkey and putting Armenian resolutions in your congress. When Turkey threatened to play hardball back and called its ambassador from Washington home, Bush who logically did not like Turkey and her current leaders because Turkish stance on Bush adventures was primarily the cause of Bush failure around here as Rumfsfeld said several times had no option to come to terms with Turkey. Some quotes from that period:
Turkey says ready to face world criticism over Iraq | Reuters"... Some in Congress wanted to play hardball. I can assure you that Turkey knows how to play hardball," Egemen Bagis, ruling AK Party deputy chairman and Erdogan's foreign policy adviser, told reporters in Washington"
Now there is not coming anymore beep-beeps from Barzani, Kirkuk stays Iraqi, North-Iraqi airspace is de-facto Turkish airspace, US satellites cruise orbit producing intelligence for Turkish general staff and Bush himself making CIA giving Turkey informations it does not even give UK or Germany.
Kurden-Konflikt: Bush verspricht Erdogan Zugriff auf CIA-Daten - Nachrichten Politik - WELT ONLINE
Google Translation http://www.welt.de/politik/article1337019/Bush_verspricht_Erdogan_Zugriff_auf_CIA_Daten.html
This all in an environment where the personal interactions by state leaders do also count in diplomacy between states and we can write down that the "personal connection" between the US government and Turkish government was icy. Would Turkey have cooperated with Bush adventurer Bush would not have been remembered as plane crasher but as "Democracy Lighthouse Builder of Bagdad". Sounds arrogant but Turkish support would have meant a sure enough stabilizing factor for US plane under Bush pilot.
Obama and Biden assured Armenian voters and "Armenian genocide faking mafia"-Lobies within USA to recognize this mafia produced faking. Off course during his presidential campaign Obama did not have access to state knowledge. Now Obama has access to this state knowledge and diplomacy canals are open for him, welcome in the reality Mr. Obama, you are facing the Turkish hardball player with its anatomically and sports meant steel balls.
Such a joy to see in the faces of people like "Lycurgus" from above which made some beep-beeps in that direction.
As i already said, US wants not to leave behind Bush era with Turkey because Obama-America is the do-gooder for just the sake of doing good, but Realpolitik paves the way for "Armenian Genocide"-Promisser Obama.
Realpolitik from US view gives the need
- for Turkey cooperating in the redeployment of US-Forces from Iraq
- growing into regional vacuum filler not against US interests
- not taking steps making life of Israel harder
- more Turkish soldiers for Afghanistan
- widening Incirlik airbase after Kyrgiszistan F*U.
- reverting cooperation with Iran
- distributing Turkish capacities to stop Iranian outreach in non-Iran Middle-East which is within Turkish reach
- reverting cooperation with Russia and join pressuring campaign against Russia, as Turkey is the NATO-country with most tools to pressure Russia
Free Article for Non-Members | STRATFORTurkey is a crucial link in the Wests pressure campaign against Russia. (...) But the Turks have little interest (...) to be pushed by the United States into a potential conflict naval or otherwise with the Russians. (...) But the Russians are playing a risky game. As much as Turkey wants this conflict to go away, it still has cards to play far more than any other NATO member if it is pushed too hard.
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The official date of Obama visit has been announced.
It will be a 2-day visit. On 6th April he will hold talks in Ankara and on 7th April he will move on to Istanbul.
Obama'nýn Türkiye programý belli oldu - Hürriyet
It is likely that Hillary Clinton will aslo come again with Obama this time.
It will be a 2-day visit. On 6th April he will hold talks in Ankara and on 7th April he will move on to Istanbul.
Obama'nýn Türkiye programý belli oldu - Hürriyet
It is likely that Hillary Clinton will aslo come again with Obama this time.
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I was Hungary so I ate Turkey.
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I was Hungary so I ate Turkey.
You are so funny.
United States public debt - Turkish Foreign Ownership - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Regarding Obama's visit.
Security personel of Obama was already in Ankara for coordination of his visit. Next week will come political coordinators.
Obama wants to attend a parliamentary session of Turkish Parliament and speak to Turkish Nation.
Due to local elections in Turkey parliament is currently in holiday, but Parliament speaker Köksal Toptan says he will extraordinately call parliamentarians into parliament for session.
He also will seperately join a TV show later in Turkish TV talking also there to Turkish Nation.
The next day Obama will travel to Istanbul and attend the UN Alliance of Civilization meeting which is led by Spain and Turkey, so Zapatero and Erdogan will also be there.
Then Obama will visit Orthodox Patriarchate Bartholemeus and then make a cultural visit through historical Istanbul travelling to Aya Sofya Mosque/Museum or Sultanahmet Mosque or both.
It is being said that Obama explicitely does want contact on streets with Istanbul residents.
Obama, halkla buluÅŸacak / Siyaset / Milliyet Ä°nternet
Security personel of Obama was already in Ankara for coordination of his visit. Next week will come political coordinators.
Obama wants to attend a parliamentary session of Turkish Parliament and speak to Turkish Nation.
Due to local elections in Turkey parliament is currently in holiday, but Parliament speaker Köksal Toptan says he will extraordinately call parliamentarians into parliament for session.
He also will seperately join a TV show later in Turkish TV talking also there to Turkish Nation.
The next day Obama will travel to Istanbul and attend the UN Alliance of Civilization meeting which is led by Spain and Turkey, so Zapatero and Erdogan will also be there.
Then Obama will visit Orthodox Patriarchate Bartholemeus and then make a cultural visit through historical Istanbul travelling to Aya Sofya Mosque/Museum or Sultanahmet Mosque or both.
It is being said that Obama explicitely does want contact on streets with Istanbul residents.
Obama, halkla buluÅŸacak / Siyaset / Milliyet Ä°nternet
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