Repeal the 17th Amendment!

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  1. MuadDib
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    A lot of us wonder today why Congress is FUBARed. The answer is simple. One house of the US Congress no longer functions the way it was designed by the Founder and Framers: the US Senate.

    According to Article 1 Section 3, Clause 1:

    Originally, US Senators were not elected by the people. They were appointed by the state legislatures. The House of Representatives were elected by the people to represent the interests of the people. The Senate was appointed by the state legislatures to represent the inerests of the states. That kept senators out of the political process.

    That was changed 1910 by the progressives when they changed that with the 17th Amendment:

    Now the Senate is subject to the same potitical processes as the House and nothing more that a higher form of the House of Representatives.

    Hilarity ensues!
     
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    Yeah. You were framed all right.
     
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    Agreed. :thup:
     
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    Why no poll?
     
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    Yeah, sure it did.

    :lol:
     
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    Exactly, since when are legislatures not political? Until recently the Senate was applauded for its collegiality nearly 100 years after the amendment, indicating whatever seems to be going wrong has a more proximal cause than the 17th.
     
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    It did not keep senators out of the political process. In fact that is the reason the states so stupidly turned over their watchdogs at the federal level to the people.

    The 17th removed a huge structural component of the U.S. Constitution. The house was to dwell on what the people wanted, but the senate was there to make sure the fed didn't try to give them what it was not empowered to give them....thus looking out for states powers as described in the 10th amendment.

    I say we repeal the stupid thing and get back (yep go back, get back, return, turn back the clock) to the day when states could tailor things to the way they wanted them.

    Romneycare for Mass....no problem. Have at it Mass.

    Don't want it in AZ or KS. Don't have to have it.

    It's a great country.
     
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    Watch out when people suggest that you give up your right to vote and support a less messy form or government that works smoother without your input. I think the Germans tried it back in the 30's.
     
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    Get rid of the Senate, altogether.

    Really..why is it needed?
     
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    Yeah..like that time some of the country thought you could own human beings..and others didn't.

    Great stuff..
     

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