Repeal of the ACA will be impossible - you need 2/3's vote

[Salt Jones]

Obamacare won't be repealed, even if Romney wins. They don't have the guts or political will to remove kids with pre-existing conditions from insurance, kick 25 year olds off their parents insurance or cause seniors to lose their $600 drug benefit.

right, when nothing else lay on the dramatics

Really?

"Rep. Tom Price (R-GA), the chairman of the influential Republican Policy Committee, offered a new rationale for potentially backing some of the more popular concepts in the law: They’ve become important to people.

“We believe that the whole bill needs to be repealed,” Price said. “That being said, there are some things that have been instituted that a lot of folks have begun to rely upon and plan — make their family plans — based upon. Twenty-six-year-olds being on their parents’ insurance is one of them.”

GOP Continues Seismic Shift In Favor Of Some Obamacare Provisions | TPMDC

 

[Meister]

Republicans need to come up with a sensible healthcare bill, one that is less than the convoluted 2700 page. One that doesn't herd the entire country into something that is overreaching IMO.

 

[Stephanie]

I still get a kick of the 26 Adults being on their PARANTS insurance is something these people are Crowing about..

I mean REALLY, how many parents can AFFORD or want to pay for their adult kids insurance?

 

[francoHFW]

How was the entire bill passed in the first place?

With 60 votes in the Senate.

Not quite true.

Or at least not true enough.

In FACT, the bill passed (regardless of how many votes it got in the Senate) AND THEN there was an IMMEDIATE second vote for a RECONCILIATION ACT.

It took two bills to cram the bullshit through.

It will not need 60 votes to repeal it.

It will require just 51. Or 50 plus the future Vice President's tie breaker.

Link to the mystery act?

Ain't it great how Pubs always need 51 votes for their BS?

 

[Liability]

With 60 votes in the Senate.

Not quite true.

Or at least not true enough.

In FACT, the bill passed (regardless of how many votes it got in the Senate) AND THEN there was an IMMEDIATE second vote for a RECONCILIATION ACT.

It took two bills to cram the bullshit through.

It will not need 60 votes to repeal it.

It will require just 51. Or 50 plus the future Vice President's tie breaker.

Link to the mystery act?

Ain't it great how Pubs always need 51 votes for their BS?

Damn but you remain a colossally ignorant partisan hack POS.

Start by getting caught up on the actual news that was never a mystery in the first place, you dip shit.

Dems victorious in final health bill 'fixes' vote - politics - Health care reform - msnbc.com

Then try to figure out what the HOUSE did and why, you fucking ignorant dishonest piece of crap:

Public Law 111 - 152 - Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010

It only takes 51 votes, shit bird.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Q for R's:

Which is a bigger flip flop -

changing your mind on whether or not the individual mandate is best described by the term "tax" or not -

or changing your mind about whether you support the mandate at all?

There seems to be a lot of fuss over Obama saying it wasn't a tax now saying its a tax - yet Romney said the individual mandate was a model for the entire nation to follow - and then he said it was unconstitutional - and then he said that it was just bad policy. The latter would seem to be a MUCH bigger flip flop! Why are you guys applying different standards to Obama, ridiculing him for flip flopping over the word used to describe something - but ignoring the 20 ton elephant in the room that is Romney doing a total 180 on whether or not RomneyCare is a good model for the entire nation?

I mean seriously, that's kinda fucked. If you think the mandate is such an affront to our nation's liberty - how can you vote for a guy who supported it?

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

How was the entire bill passed in the first place?

With 60 votes in the Senate.

Not quite true.

Or at least not true enough.

In FACT, the bill passed (regardless of how many votes it got in the Senate) AND THEN there was an IMMEDIATE second vote for a RECONCILIATION ACT.

It took two bills to cram the bullshit through.

It will not need 60 votes to repeal it.

It will require just 51. Or 50 plus the future Vice President's tie breaker.

Sorry but both Romney and Obama support the individual mandate. You'll need to override their veto.

 

[The T]

With 60 votes in the Senate.

Not quite true.

Or at least not true enough.

In FACT, the bill passed (regardless of how many votes it got in the Senate) AND THEN there was an IMMEDIATE second vote for a RECONCILIATION ACT.

It took two bills to cram the bullshit through.

It will not need 60 votes to repeal it.

It will require just 51. Or 50 plus the future Vice President's tie breaker.

Sorry but both Romney and Obama support the individual mandate. You'll need to override their veto.

Romney does? Really?

 

[Charles_Main]

How about Lying and swearing it's not a tax, and then arguing it is a tax in Court, Because you know damn well it's not legal any other way under the Constitution.

Obama clearly wins the BS award on this issue.

 

[Stephanie]

good grief, He always ask a question then goes off on some rant.

troll threads

 

[Charles_Main]

With 60 votes in the Senate.

Not quite true.

Or at least not true enough.

In FACT, the bill passed (regardless of how many votes it got in the Senate) AND THEN there was an IMMEDIATE second vote for a RECONCILIATION ACT.

It took two bills to cram the bullshit through.

It will not need 60 votes to repeal it.

It will require just 51. Or 50 plus the future Vice President's tie breaker.

Sorry but both Romney and Obama support the individual mandate. You'll need to override their veto.

wow, I have never seen such willful Ignorance.

Romney is not going to Veto a Repeal. You are smoking the good stuff and not sharing.

 

[The T]

How about Lying and swearing it's not a tax, and then arguing it is a tax in Court, Because you know damn well it's not legal any other way under the Constitution.

Obama clearly wins the BS award on this issue.

I want to know why the Court allowed the SG to argue both sides of the issue?

 

[Stephanie]

We see they are trolling so bad the threads got merged..

way to go

 

[Lakhota]

Fox News Medical Contributor: Doctors Will Resent Being Forced To Cover Fat And Lazy People Under Obamacare | ThinkProgress

Duh, they still go to the Emergency Room...

 

[Lakhota]

These fucking Republicans are retarded.

McConnell Can't Answer How GOP Will Insure Americans After Repealing ObamaCare: 'That Is Not The Issue' | ThinkProgress

 

[Lakhota]

The wily House minority leader put everything on the line to pass the president’s health-care bill, remained confident it would survive legal challenge—and was proved right when the Supreme Court largely upheld it.

Nancy Pelosi's Obamacare Vindication

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

These fucking Republicans are retarded.

McConnell Can't Answer How GOP Will Insure Americans After Repealing ObamaCare: 'That Is Not The Issue' | ThinkProgress

If Republicans are successful in repealing ObamaCare, they’ll also have to answer how they’ll provide coverage for those with pre-existing conditions, lower-income Americans, and even the millions of young Americans who can now stay on their parents’ health care plans until age 26.

And of course republicans have no plan, as they’re opposed to the provisions above, as they’re willing to allow more Americans go without health insurance placing a greater financial burden on the system overall.

 

[Liability]

With 60 votes in the Senate.

Not quite true.

Or at least not true enough.

In FACT, the bill passed (regardless of how many votes it got in the Senate) AND THEN there was an IMMEDIATE second vote for a RECONCILIATION ACT.

It took two bills to cram the bullshit through.

It will not need 60 votes to repeal it.

It will require just 51. Or 50 plus the future Vice President's tie breaker.

Sorry but both Romney and Obama support the individual mandate. You'll need to override their veto.

The failed incumbent will be voted out and Pres. Romney will be happy to have the ObamaCrapTax repealed.

You are often wrong.

No exception here.

 

[Contumacious]

How was the entire bill passed in the first place?

It's called the "shell bill scam"


The bill that passed the Senate wasn’t technically a Senate bill. Reid took a bill that had already passed the House, stripped out the provisions to turn it into a “shell bill,” and then inserted the text of ObamaCare to get around this requirement. The bill that passed the Senate was H.R.3590, which initially had to do with tax breaks for military homeowners.

H.RES.1203
Latest Title: Providing for consideration of the Senate amendments to the bill (H.R. 3590) to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to modify the first-time homebuyers credit in the case of members of the Armed Forces and certain other Federal employees, and for other purposes, and providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 4872) to provide for reconciliation pursuant to section 202 of the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2010.


Sponsor: Rep Slaughter, Louise McIntosh [NY-28] (introduced 3/20/2010) Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills: H.R.3590, H.R.4872
Latest Major Action: 3/21/2010 Passed/agreed to in House. Status: On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 224 - 206 (Roll no. 163).
Latest Action: 3/21/2010 Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
House Reports: 111-448

It's the old bait-and-switch fraud being used by the congresscritters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Too Tall]

Why do you assume all of the middle class and young people are moochers? Only you get that label.

He didn't say 'all.' Fail.

Oh, how many was he referring to? Please clarify.

All of them that pay taxes and have health insurance.