Repeal health law? Poll shows many think it should do more

tea baggers dream, they might get gridlock if they are lucky. Repealing it is a pipe dream
 
Kinda ruins the whole tea party outrage for the bill huh?


They keep pretending they are the majority of Americans yet they keep having the american people disagree with them.
 
Do we really need a new thread on each news item for the same story?

I don't know. Do we need a new one on every one of the tweeting twit's tweets? or on every time some tea party loon gets angry at something? or every time someone of hispanic descent does something wrong?

or... better yet, do we need thread after thread wondering how the president, who was harvard law review, did in high school? or wondering about where he was born?

feel free to comment on those, honey.

welcome to the world of the internets. :)
 
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So do you think these facts will permeate the brains of the right wing zombies?
 
AP Uses Healthcare Propagandists For Poll
From the shameless liars of the Associated Press:




AP Poll: Many think health overhaul should do more
The AP poll was conducted by Stanford University with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation…

And this is all you need to know. As we have noted before, these people are longtime fervent agitators for a single payer government run healthcare system.

Behold their ‘mission page’:

Robert Wood Johnson Foundation – Coverage
By developing policies and programs to expand health coverage and maximize enrollment in existing coverage programs, we are working to ensure that everyone in America has stable, affordable health care coverage.

And they then helpfully spell out how they mean to accomplish this:

Our strategy
Americans’ lack of meaningful access to affordable and stable health care coverage has been a central concern of the Foundation since its inception 35 years ago.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, today nearly 46 million Americans, including 9 million children, are uninsured, and the problem is growing.
Having a job, even a full-time job, doesn’t necessarily guarantee coverage. In fact, eight out of 10 uninsured Americans are in working families.
In light of an evolving environment and promising opportunities, we are working in several areas to accomplish our goal of ensuring that everyone in America has affordable and stable health care coverage.

Increasing Enrollment in Coverage Programs. Ensuring coverage for all children and low-income adults is a first step toward achieving coverage for everyone.

RWJF has helped make both the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) and Medicaid easier for families to access and understand through our Covering Kids & Families initiative. An estimated seven out of 10 uninsured children are eligible for these programs, and we will continue efforts to ensure that all eligible individuals are enrolled.

Supporting Private/Public Expansions. Increased coverage can be achieved by promoting expansions of coverage in the public and private sectors. This includes encouraging state and federal expansion efforts and encouraging employers and health plans to expand opportunities for private insurance.

We commissioned the State Health Access Data Assistance Center (SHADAC), located at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health, to develop a comprehensive state-by-state analysis on children’s access to health insurance. This analysis underscores that working parents who earn modest incomes are experiencing dramatic erosion in employer benefits; making it ever harder to obtain adequate health services for themselves and their families. Whose Kids are Covered: A State-by-State Look at Uninsured Children

Maintaining Opinion Leader Support for Expanded Coverage. Because we believe that reaching the goal of affordable and stable health care will require changes in public policy, we will work to build and sustain broad-based support for change. This includes building support among opinion makers, policy-makers, grassroots advocates, the business community and the engaged public.

Conducting Research and Analysis on Factors that Affect Availability of Affordable, Stable Coverage. We are particularly interested in commissioning, conducting and disseminating innovative research and policy analysis that will reveal the fundamental barriers to achieving affordable and stable health care coverage for all, including the rapidly rising cost of care and the structural features of private health insurance markets. We are now focusing more specifically on states, and are supporting research and evaluation initiatives that will identify the effective coverage strategies that will inform state and federal action.

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AP Uses Healthcare Propagandists For Poll | Sweetness & Light
 
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Wow... a lot of people who think they may get something at the expense of another or that think that they are getting it 'free' in some way by the government, thinking it should do more.. color me shocked :rolleyes:

Thank God we don't run on just public 'want'

The hardest part will be getting what is already in the hands of government out of the hands of government... because once government gets it's big grubby hands on the power they are addicted to, it is so hard to pry it loose
 
AP Uses Healthcare Propagandists For Poll
From the shameless liars of the Associated Press:




AP Poll: Many think health overhaul should do more
The AP poll was conducted by Stanford University with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation…

And this is all you need to know. As we have noted before, these people are longtime fervent agitators for a single payer government run healthcare system.

Behold their ‘mission page’:

Robert Wood Johnson Foundation – Coverage
By developing policies and programs to expand health coverage and maximize enrollment in existing coverage programs, we are working to ensure that everyone in America has stable, affordable health care coverage.

And they then helpfully spell out how they mean to accomplish this:

Our strategy
Americans’ lack of meaningful access to affordable and stable health care coverage has been a central concern of the Foundation since its inception 35 years ago.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, today nearly 46 million Americans, including 9 million children, are uninsured, and the problem is growing.
Having a job, even a full-time job, doesn’t necessarily guarantee coverage. In fact, eight out of 10 uninsured Americans are in working families.
In light of an evolving environment and promising opportunities, we are working in several areas to accomplish our goal of ensuring that everyone in America has affordable and stable health care coverage.

Increasing Enrollment in Coverage Programs. Ensuring coverage for all children and low-income adults is a first step toward achieving coverage for everyone.

RWJF has helped make both the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) and Medicaid easier for families to access and understand through our Covering Kids & Families initiative. An estimated seven out of 10 uninsured children are eligible for these programs, and we will continue efforts to ensure that all eligible individuals are enrolled.

Supporting Private/Public Expansions. Increased coverage can be achieved by promoting expansions of coverage in the public and private sectors. This includes encouraging state and federal expansion efforts and encouraging employers and health plans to expand opportunities for private insurance.

We commissioned the State Health Access Data Assistance Center (SHADAC), located at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health, to develop a comprehensive state-by-state analysis on children’s access to health insurance. This analysis underscores that working parents who earn modest incomes are experiencing dramatic erosion in employer benefits; making it ever harder to obtain adequate health services for themselves and their families. Whose Kids are Covered: A State-by-State Look at Uninsured Children

Maintaining Opinion Leader Support for Expanded Coverage. Because we believe that reaching the goal of affordable and stable health care will require changes in public policy, we will work to build and sustain broad-based support for change. This includes building support among opinion makers, policy-makers, grassroots advocates, the business community and the engaged public.

Conducting Research and Analysis on Factors that Affect Availability of Affordable, Stable Coverage. We are particularly interested in commissioning, conducting and disseminating innovative research and policy analysis that will reveal the fundamental barriers to achieving affordable and stable health care coverage for all, including the rapidly rising cost of care and the structural features of private health insurance markets. We are now focusing more specifically on states, and are supporting research and evaluation initiatives that will identify the effective coverage strategies that will inform state and federal action.

from..
AP Uses Healthcare Propagandists For Poll | Sweetness & Light

Of course it depends on how you ask the question. The polling for outlawing pre-existing conditions as a criterion for denial was huge. It probably is still the most popular part of an unpopular bill.
But people thought they were getting something for nothing. If the question had been "do you support outlawing any pre-existing conditions clauses in healthcare in return for a 20% increase in premiums" I would bet the response would be much less.
 
AP Uses Healthcare Propagandists For Poll
From the shameless liars of the Associated Press:




AP Poll: Many think health overhaul should do more
The AP poll was conducted by Stanford University with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation…

And this is all you need to know. As we have noted before, these people are longtime fervent agitators for a single payer government run healthcare system.

Behold their ‘mission page’:

Robert Wood Johnson Foundation – Coverage
By developing policies and programs to expand health coverage and maximize enrollment in existing coverage programs, we are working to ensure that everyone in America has stable, affordable health care coverage.

And they then helpfully spell out how they mean to accomplish this:

Our strategy
Americans’ lack of meaningful access to affordable and stable health care coverage has been a central concern of the Foundation since its inception 35 years ago.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, today nearly 46 million Americans, including 9 million children, are uninsured, and the problem is growing.
Having a job, even a full-time job, doesn’t necessarily guarantee coverage. In fact, eight out of 10 uninsured Americans are in working families.
In light of an evolving environment and promising opportunities, we are working in several areas to accomplish our goal of ensuring that everyone in America has affordable and stable health care coverage.

Increasing Enrollment in Coverage Programs. Ensuring coverage for all children and low-income adults is a first step toward achieving coverage for everyone.

RWJF has helped make both the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) and Medicaid easier for families to access and understand through our Covering Kids & Families initiative. An estimated seven out of 10 uninsured children are eligible for these programs, and we will continue efforts to ensure that all eligible individuals are enrolled.

Supporting Private/Public Expansions. Increased coverage can be achieved by promoting expansions of coverage in the public and private sectors. This includes encouraging state and federal expansion efforts and encouraging employers and health plans to expand opportunities for private insurance.

We commissioned the State Health Access Data Assistance Center (SHADAC), located at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health, to develop a comprehensive state-by-state analysis on children’s access to health insurance. This analysis underscores that working parents who earn modest incomes are experiencing dramatic erosion in employer benefits; making it ever harder to obtain adequate health services for themselves and their families. Whose Kids are Covered: A State-by-State Look at Uninsured Children

Maintaining Opinion Leader Support for Expanded Coverage. Because we believe that reaching the goal of affordable and stable health care will require changes in public policy, we will work to build and sustain broad-based support for change. This includes building support among opinion makers, policy-makers, grassroots advocates, the business community and the engaged public.

Conducting Research and Analysis on Factors that Affect Availability of Affordable, Stable Coverage. We are particularly interested in commissioning, conducting and disseminating innovative research and policy analysis that will reveal the fundamental barriers to achieving affordable and stable health care coverage for all, including the rapidly rising cost of care and the structural features of private health insurance markets. We are now focusing more specifically on states, and are supporting research and evaluation initiatives that will identify the effective coverage strategies that will inform state and federal action.

from..
AP Uses Healthcare Propagandists For Poll | Sweetness & Light

Of course it depends on how you ask the question. The polling for outlawing pre-existing conditions as a criterion for denial was huge. It probably is still the most popular part of an unpopular bill.
But people thought they were getting something for nothing. If the question had been "do you support outlawing any pre-existing conditions clauses in healthcare in return for a 20% increase in premiums" I would bet the response would be much less.

20% surcharge versus NO healthcare coverage at all? Sounds like a steal to me.
 
AP Uses Healthcare Propagandists For Poll
From the shameless liars of the Associated Press:




AP Poll: Many think health overhaul should do more
The AP poll was conducted by Stanford University with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation…

And this is all you need to know. As we have noted before, these people are longtime fervent agitators for a single payer government run healthcare system.

Behold their ‘mission page’:

Robert Wood Johnson Foundation – Coverage
By developing policies and programs to expand health coverage and maximize enrollment in existing coverage programs, we are working to ensure that everyone in America has stable, affordable health care coverage.

And they then helpfully spell out how they mean to accomplish this:

Our strategy
Americans’ lack of meaningful access to affordable and stable health care coverage has been a central concern of the Foundation since its inception 35 years ago.

According to the U.S. Census Bureau, today nearly 46 million Americans, including 9 million children, are uninsured, and the problem is growing.
Having a job, even a full-time job, doesn’t necessarily guarantee coverage. In fact, eight out of 10 uninsured Americans are in working families.
In light of an evolving environment and promising opportunities, we are working in several areas to accomplish our goal of ensuring that everyone in America has affordable and stable health care coverage.

Increasing Enrollment in Coverage Programs. Ensuring coverage for all children and low-income adults is a first step toward achieving coverage for everyone.

RWJF has helped make both the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) and Medicaid easier for families to access and understand through our Covering Kids & Families initiative. An estimated seven out of 10 uninsured children are eligible for these programs, and we will continue efforts to ensure that all eligible individuals are enrolled.

Supporting Private/Public Expansions. Increased coverage can be achieved by promoting expansions of coverage in the public and private sectors. This includes encouraging state and federal expansion efforts and encouraging employers and health plans to expand opportunities for private insurance.

We commissioned the State Health Access Data Assistance Center (SHADAC), located at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health, to develop a comprehensive state-by-state analysis on children’s access to health insurance. This analysis underscores that working parents who earn modest incomes are experiencing dramatic erosion in employer benefits; making it ever harder to obtain adequate health services for themselves and their families. Whose Kids are Covered: A State-by-State Look at Uninsured Children

Maintaining Opinion Leader Support for Expanded Coverage. Because we believe that reaching the goal of affordable and stable health care will require changes in public policy, we will work to build and sustain broad-based support for change. This includes building support among opinion makers, policy-makers, grassroots advocates, the business community and the engaged public.

Conducting Research and Analysis on Factors that Affect Availability of Affordable, Stable Coverage. We are particularly interested in commissioning, conducting and disseminating innovative research and policy analysis that will reveal the fundamental barriers to achieving affordable and stable health care coverage for all, including the rapidly rising cost of care and the structural features of private health insurance markets. We are now focusing more specifically on states, and are supporting research and evaluation initiatives that will identify the effective coverage strategies that will inform state and federal action.

from..
AP Uses Healthcare Propagandists For Poll | Sweetness & Light

Of course it depends on how you ask the question. The polling for outlawing pre-existing conditions as a criterion for denial was huge. It probably is still the most popular part of an unpopular bill.
But people thought they were getting something for nothing. If the question had been "do you support outlawing any pre-existing conditions clauses in healthcare in return for a 20% increase in premiums" I would bet the response would be much less.

20% surcharge versus NO healthcare coverage at all? Sounds like a steal to me.

Close to 90% of people have health care insurance one way or another. The "vast uninsured" was a talking point by the Dems, one that they haven't mentioned recently.
So 10% benefit some while 90% pay the bill. How popular do you suppose that would be in a poll question?
 
The 90% footing the bill sure wouldn't like it. I know I don't want to pay higher costs to provide "free" HC to someone else.

The 10% would love it because they probably don't pay for anything anyway. I'm also sure it wouldn't bother them that someone else had to pay higher costs to cover their asses.
 
Of course it depends on how you ask the question. The polling for outlawing pre-existing conditions as a criterion for denial was huge. It probably is still the most popular part of an unpopular bill.
But people thought they were getting something for nothing. If the question had been "do you support outlawing any pre-existing conditions clauses in healthcare in return for a 20% increase in premiums" I would bet the response would be much less.

20% surcharge versus NO healthcare coverage at all? Sounds like a steal to me.

Close to 90% of people have health care insurance one way or another. The "vast uninsured" was a talking point by the Dems, one that they haven't mentioned recently.
So 10% benefit some while 90% pay the bill. How popular do you suppose that would be in a poll question?

Must be nice to be able to just make up your own facts and figures.
 
"More" seems kinda broad, I think they should do "more" too, like getting government completely out of the healthcare/health insurance business.
 
The 90% footing the bill sure wouldn't like it. I know I don't want to pay higher costs to provide "free" HC to someone else.

The 10% would love it because they probably don't pay for anything anyway. I'm also sure it wouldn't bother them that someone else had to pay higher costs to cover their asses.

Of the people who are uninsured, some percentage of them would be covered under existing gov't programs but just didnt sign up. Some percentage are young and healthy and have chosen to go without. And some percentage are illegal aliens. So the actual number of "uninsured" is really fairly small. But all of us wil have to pay $1T to cover them.
But from an administration that spent about $200k for every job "created or saved" what else would you expect?
 
20% surcharge versus NO healthcare coverage at all? Sounds like a steal to me.

Close to 90% of people have health care insurance one way or another. The "vast uninsured" was a talking point by the Dems, one that they haven't mentioned recently.
So 10% benefit some while 90% pay the bill. How popular do you suppose that would be in a poll question?

Must be nice to be able to just make up your own facts and figures.

Um what is he making up. Obama's own figures put the uninsured at around 30 million. OUT OF 300 MILLION.

You are able to do simple math right.
 

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