Rep Steve King: Same-Sex Marriage Is ‘A Purely Socialist Concept’

[Shogun]

"Black History Month" has been observed for 29 years, yet many blacks know little to nothing about the parties' respective roles in advancing or hindering the civil rights of blacks. How many blacks know that following the Civil War, 23 blacks -- 13 of them ex-slaves -- were elected to Congress, all as Republicans? The first black Democrat was not elected to Congress until 1935, from the state of Illinois. The first black congressional Democrat from a Southern state was not elected until 1973.

Democrats, in 1854, passed the Kansas-Nebraska Act. This overturned the Missouri Compromise and allowed for the importation of slaves into the territories. Disgusted with the passage of this Act, free-soilers and anti-slavery members of the Whig and Democratic parties founded the Republican Party -- not just to stop the spread of slavery, but to eventually abolish it.

How many blacks know that blacks founded the Texas Republican Party? On July 4, 1867, in Houston, Texas, 150 blacks and 20 whites formed the party. No, not the Black Texas Republican Party, they founded the Texas Republican Party. Blacks across Southern states also founded the Republican parties in their states.

Fugitive slave laws? In 1850, Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. If merely accused of being a slave, even if the person enjoyed freedom all of his or her life (as approximately 11 percent of blacks did just before the Civil War), the person lost the right to representation by an attorney, the right to trial by jury, and the right to habeas corpus.

Emancipation? Republican President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation during the Civil War. In 1865, the 13th Amendment emancipating the slaves was passed with 100 percent of Republicans (88 of 88 in the House, 30 of 30 in the Senate) voting for it. Only 23 percent of Democrats (16 of 66 in the House, 3 of 8 in the Senate) voted for it.

Civil rights laws? In 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed giving the newly emancipated blacks full civil rights and federal guarantee of those rights, superseding any state laws. Every single voting Republican (128 of 134 -- with 6 not voting -- in the House, and 30 of 32 -- with 2 not voting -- in the Senate) voted for the 14th Amendment. Not a single Democrat (zero of 36 in the House, zero of 6 in the Senate) voted for it.

Right to vote? When Southern states balked at implementing the 14th Amendment, Congress came back and passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.

Ku Klux Klan? In 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. As PBS' "American Experience" notes, "In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power. The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1865." Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, became the primary targets of violence.

Jim Crow laws? Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on, in their individual states.

Civil rights in the '60s? Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act (153 for, 91 against in the House; and 46 for, 21 against in the Senate). But 80 percent of Republicans (136 for, 35 against in the House; and 27 for, 6 against in the Senate) voted for the 1964 Act.

What about the reviled, allegedly anti-black, Republican "Southern strategy"? Pat Buchanan, writing for Richard Nixon (who became the Republican Party candidate two years later) coined the term "Southern strategy." They expected the "strategy" to ultimately result in the complete marginalization of racist Southern Democrats. "We would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states' rights, human rights, small government, and a strong national defense," said Buchanan, "and leave it to the 'party of [Democratic Georgia Gov. Lester] Maddox, [1966 Democratic challenger against Spiro Agnew for Maryland governor George] Mahoney, and [Democratic Alabama Gov. George] Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice.'" And President Richard Nixon, Republican, implemented the first federal affirmative action (race-based preference) laws with goals and timetables.

History is a wonderful thing, you should try studying it.

So, you are saying that the Republican Party today is the same party with the same platform as 100 years ago? And ditto for the Democrats?

Is that what you are saying?

I'm saying history speaks for itself.

nice dodge. the FACT is that the ole racist dems leaped ship to join the GOP. We all know this. It's fucking hilarious that you dance around pretending that this is knot a well known fact.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

So, you are saying that the Republican Party today is the same party with the same platform as 100 years ago? And ditto for the Democrats?

Is that what you are saying?

I'm saying history speaks for itself.

nice dodge. the FACT is that the ole racist dems leaped ship to join the GOP. We all know this. It's fucking hilarious that you dance around pretending that this is knot a well known fact.

Can't dodge the truth.

Are you disputing the facts that I've presented?

Do you have evidence to back up your claim that "racist dems leaped ship to join the GOP"?

 

[Shogun]

I'm saying history speaks for itself.

nice dodge. the FACT is that the ole racist dems leaped ship to join the GOP. We all know this. It's fucking hilarious that you dance around pretending that this is knot a well known fact.

Can't dodge the truth.

Are you disputing the facts that I've presented?

Do you have evidence to back up your claim that "racist dems leaped ship to join the GOP"?

Go google Southern Strategy and discover a new, exciting piece of history for yourself. Again, it's hilarious that you people think that no one happens to know why old racist dems jumped ship for the GOP over civil rights. seriously. Lincoln would have been a liberal democrat in 2009. FACT. And, ironically, your political ideology puts you with more in common with Jefferson Davis than a republican from the north.


This really is basic American History. Clearly, you didn't catch why I quoted KEN FUCKING MEHLMAN MAKING APOLOGIES FOR THE SOUTHERN STRATEGY.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

nice dodge. the FACT is that the ole racist dems leaped ship to join the GOP. We all know this. It's fucking hilarious that you dance around pretending that this is knot a well known fact.

Can't dodge the truth.

Are you disputing the facts that I've presented?

Do you have evidence to back up your claim that "racist dems leaped ship to join the GOP"?

Go google Southern Strategy and discover a new, exciting piece of history for yourself. Again, it's hilarious that you people think that no one happens to know why old racist dems jumped ship for the GOP over civil rights. seriously. Lincoln would have been a liberal democrat in 2009. FACT. And, ironically, your political ideology puts you with more in common with Jefferson Davis than a republican from the north.


This really is basic American History. Clearly, you didn't catch why I quoted KEN FUCKING MEHLMAN MAKING APOLOGIES FOR THE SOUTHERN STRATEGY.

Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin argue that the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth.

The two scholars support their claim with an extensive survey of election returns and voter surveys. To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didn’t.

To be sure, Shafer says, many whites in the South aggressively opposed liberal Democrats on race issues. “But when folks went to the polling booths,” he says, “they didn’t shoot off their own toes. They voted by their economic preferences, not racial preferences.” Shafer says these results should give liberals hope. “If Southern politics is about class and not race,” he says, “then they can get it back.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html


The fact is the Republican Party has a far better record than the Democrats on race, The Democratic position represents racism of the most offensive sort—a patronizing racism that denigrates Blacks every bit as badly as the old racism of Jim Crow and segregation.

 

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How can you breath where you have your head?

You don't even believe in science. You believe in magical creation.

Hey, do you know any gays? Go ahead, tell me your best friends are gay.

Your posts are always amusing. So I'm a scientist who doesn't believe in science? And I went to a gay church for some time. Who knew I would meet gay people there?

Yet another rdean post! Thanks again for the laughs.

I read this post and tried to figure out what it meant.

Are you saying you're a scientist? Or that you don't believe in "science"? Either way, it's still a joke.

You went to a "gay church"? What is that? Were you kneeling? Are you sure it was a church? Did you "take, eat, this is my body"?

I suspected you were laughing. That Jokeresque, maniacal laugh that goes along with a white coat with plenty of backside buckles.

You obviously have reading comprehension problems. You can probably blame it on Public Education. But the way you make fun of science and gays is unacceptable. You should be more tolerant, rather than acting like a dimwit redneck.

 

[Shogun]

Can't dodge the truth.

Are you disputing the facts that I've presented?

Do you have evidence to back up your claim that "racist dems leaped ship to join the GOP"?

Go google Southern Strategy and discover a new, exciting piece of history for yourself. Again, it's hilarious that you people think that no one happens to know why old racist dems jumped ship for the GOP over civil rights. seriously. Lincoln would have been a liberal democrat in 2009. FACT. And, ironically, your political ideology puts you with more in common with Jefferson Davis than a republican from the north.


This really is basic American History. Clearly, you didn't catch why I quoted KEN FUCKING MEHLMAN MAKING APOLOGIES FOR THE SOUTHERN STRATEGY.

Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin argue that the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth.

The two scholars support their claim with an extensive survey of election returns and voter surveys. To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didn’t.

To be sure, Shafer says, many whites in the South aggressively opposed liberal Democrats on race issues. “But when folks went to the polling booths,” he says, “they didn’t shoot off their own toes. They voted by their economic preferences, not racial preferences.” Shafer says these results should give liberals hope. “If Southern politics is about class and not race,” he says, “then they can get it back.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html


The fact is the Republican Party has a far better record than the Democrats on race, The Democratic position represents racism of the most offensive sort—a patronizing racism that denigrates Blacks every bit as badly as the old racism of Jim Crow and segregation.

some dude with an opinion and a willingness to argue just doesn't amount to PRIMARY EVIDENCE.

Do you want me to start quoting Nixon Strategists?

Your opinion of what republicans have on race means two things: jack and shit. Go ask any minority group why they vote democrat and you might learn a thing or two about whose party addresses minority issues.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Go google Southern Strategy and discover a new, exciting piece of history for yourself. Again, it's hilarious that you people think that no one happens to know why old racist dems jumped ship for the GOP over civil rights. seriously. Lincoln would have been a liberal democrat in 2009. FACT. And, ironically, your political ideology puts you with more in common with Jefferson Davis than a republican from the north.


This really is basic American History. Clearly, you didn't catch why I quoted KEN FUCKING MEHLMAN MAKING APOLOGIES FOR THE SOUTHERN STRATEGY.

Richard Johnston of the University of Pennsylvania and Byron Shafer of the University of Wisconsin argue that the shift in the South from Democratic to Republican was overwhelmingly a question not of race but of economic growth.

The two scholars support their claim with an extensive survey of election returns and voter surveys. To give just one example: in the 50s, among Southerners in the low-income tercile, 43 percent voted for Republican Presidential candidates, while in the high-income tercile, 53 percent voted Republican; by the 80s, those figures were 51 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Wealthy Southerners shifted rightward in droves but poorer ones didn’t.

To be sure, Shafer says, many whites in the South aggressively opposed liberal Democrats on race issues. “But when folks went to the polling booths,” he says, “they didn’t shoot off their own toes. They voted by their economic preferences, not racial preferences.” Shafer says these results should give liberals hope. “If Southern politics is about class and not race,” he says, “then they can get it back.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html


The fact is the Republican Party has a far better record than the Democrats on race, The Democratic position represents racism of the most offensive sort—a patronizing racism that denigrates Blacks every bit as badly as the old racism of Jim Crow and segregation.

some dude with an opinion and a willingness to argue just doesn't amount to PRIMARY EVIDENCE.

Do you want me to start quoting Nixon Strategists?

Your opinion of what republicans have on race means two things: jack and shit. Go ask any minority group why they vote democrat and you might learn a thing or two about whose party addresses minority issues.

You dismiss the research of two scholars because?

You are one stupid fuck, I've shown the history of both parties as it applies to race and you still don't get it. Blacks vote for democrats because they think they'll get something for nothing and they're still waiting.

Tthe Republican Party was founded by anti-slavery activists, in contrast to the pro-slavery Democratic Party. It was Abe Lincoln, a Republican President, who led the North to victory in the Civil War and freed the slaves while the Democrats did everything in their power to keep black Americans down.

Fast forward to 1898 in Wilmington, N.C., where Democrats murdered black Republicans so they could stage, "the nation's only recorded coup d'etat." Then, in 1922, Democrats in the Senate filibustered a Republican attempt to make lynching a federal crime. A little later on, FDR nominated former Klansman Hugo Black to the Supreme Court. Contrast that to Republican President Dwight Eisenhower, who actually "sent troops" to ensure that schools in Little Rock, Ark., were desegregated and ordered the "complete desegregation of the Armed Forces." Noticing any trends? Or are you too fucking stupid?!?

What about the revolutionary Civil Rights Act of 1964? That's where the Democrats showed their mettle and Republicans were proven to be racists. Right? Wrong. 82% of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 versus only 64% of Democrats. Furthermore, a few years later, it was Republican Richard Nixon who first put teeth behind affirmative action.

Who's the only black American currently on the Supreme Court? Clarence Thomas. The first black Secretary of State? Colin Powell. The first black woman ever to be a Secretary of State? Condi Rice.

Who's one of the fill-ins for the most popular conservative radio host on earth, Rush Limbaugh? Walter Williams. The most desired 2008 nominee as selected by the right side of the blogosphere in 2006? Condi Rice. Who did those same bloggers select as the most desired nominee to replace Sandra Day O'Connor when she retired? Janice Rogers Brown tied for first place.

Meanwhile, what do we see from Democrats? We see Oreo cookies being thrown at Maryland's black U.S. Senate candidate Michael Steele and black Republicans being called "Uncle Toms" and compared to "Aunt Jemima."

You're an idiot to believe that the GOP is full of racists, especially when there are so many distinguished black Americans out there who can tell you otherwise. Look to Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Rod Paige, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Larry Elder, J.C. Watts, Michael Steele, Ken Blackwell, Lynn Swann -- and you'll see that the GOP judges people not "by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

I have to give credit to John Hawkins for putting this argument together with indisputable facts. You cannot argue the against the truth, you can hide from it and/or deny it all you want, but the truth is the truth.

I might also add that Congressional records show that Democrats were opposed to passing the following laws that were introduced by Republicans to achieve civil rights for African Americans:

Civil Rights Act 1866
Reconstruction Act of 1867
Freedman Bureau Extension Act of 1866
Enforcement Act of 1870
Force Act of 1871
Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871
Civil Rights Act of 1875
Civil Rights Act of 1957
Civil Rights Act of 1960

And during the 60's many Democrats fought hard to defeat the

1964 Civil Rights Act
1965 Voting Rights Acts
1972 Equal Employment Opportunity Act

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The Democratic Party’s Legacy of Racism by Mackubin T. Owens

 

[Shogun]

1957 democrats ARE 2009 REPUBLICANS. FACT. I don't care what two people have to say on the subject when I can quote Nixon strategists making the same point about displacing disenfranchised southern dems with republican options. Now, feel free to keep believing whatever stupid shit that helps you roll out of bed every morning. Again, the retarded shit you people say just to feel less of a civil rights antagonist is hilarious.


Go find a black man and tell him your big theory about how dems are the party of racists. prepare yourself to be laughed at.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

1957 democrats ARE 2009 REPUBLICANS. FACT. I don't care what two people have to say on the subject when I can quote Nixon strategists making the same point about displacing disenfranchised southern dems with republican options. Now, feel free to keep believing whatever stupid shit that helps you roll out of bed every morning. Again, the retarded shit you people say just to feel less of a civil rights antagonist is hilarious.


Go find a black man and tell him your big theory about how dems are the party of racists. prepare yourself to be laughed at.

"1957 democrats ARE 2009 REPUBLICANS. FACT."

Prove it.

You claimed republicans were replaced by "racist" democrats, not that they were "displacing disenfranchised southern dems with republican options". Looks like you're changing your story.

Why don't you address the facts I presented?

Disprove anything I've stated!!

Anyone that exercises independent thought can see that I clearly proved my point and I used indisputable facts in my argument. You have provided nothing but opinion with no facts to back them up.

Unless you can prove what you claim and disprove my claims, then I'll consider your last post as a concession.

Have a good day!