Rep. Paul Says Defense Bill Assures 'Descent Into Totalitarianism...

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    GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul warned that the National Defense Authorization Act, which was passed by Congress this month, will accelerate the country’s “slip into tyranny” and virtually assures “our descent into totalitarianism.”


    “The founders wanted to set a high bar for the government to overcome in order to deprive an individual of life or liberty,” Paul, the libertarian congressman, said Monday in a weekly phone message to supporters. “To lower that bar is to endanger everyone. When the bar is low enough to include political enemies, our descent into totalitarianism is virtually assured. The Patriot Act, as bad as its violations against the Fourth Amendment was, was just one step down the slippery slope. The recently passed National Defense Authorization Act continues that slip into tyranny, and in fact, accelerates it significantly.”

    The NDAA is the nearly $670 billion defense spending bill that covers the military budget and funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    One controversial provision mandates the detention of terror suspects and reaffirms the administration’s authority to detain those suspected of having ties to terrorist organizations.

    “The Fifth Amendment is about much more than the right to remain silent in the face of government questioning,” Paul continued. “It contains very basic and very critical stipulations about the due process of law. The government cannot imprison a person for no reason and with no evidence presented and without access to legal council. The danger of the NDAA is its alarmingly vague, undefined criteria for who can be indefinitely detained by the U.S. government without trial.”

    “It is no longer limited to members of Al Qaeda or the Taliban, but anyone accused of substantially supporting such groups or associated forces,” Paul continued. “How closely associated, and what constitutes substantial support? What if it was discovered that someone who committed a terrorist act was once involved with a charity? Or suppose a political candidate? Are all donors of that candidate or supporters of that candidate now suspects and subject to indefinite detainment? Is that charity now an associated force?”

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    LOL

    Ironic huh. It will lead to the end of our nation as we know it but its unworthy of his time to vote against it. Paul thinks no one will call him out.
     
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    Yes.... Gramps you big ol man, attack Paul while you support Newt, who actually supports the bill.

    Tell us all again how your not a huge Progressive liberal.
     
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    But to be fair I don wonder why he didn't make it to the vote... Not that itr matters when you look at the yes VS no amounts.
     
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    rp is a dottering old insane fucktard. he will never be president and is not worthy to be president. eveah.
     
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    Now don't go and tarnish your reputation now by attempting to be fair.
     
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    American politicians are paranoid. People working in 2-3 jobs to finance the military in foreign countries. What do they get back from their tax money?
     
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    Right, he should have flown back D.C. because his vote would have stopped it. :rolleyes:

    It passed overwhelmingly 283 - 136 with 14 not voting.

    This is why your posts ObamaCare carry no weight with me. You're not totally honest. You could be but I think you choose not to.
     
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    Just maybe Paul was hundreds of miles away... Just maybe the bill was brought up and voted on before he could do anything about it.

    Look who else missed the vote ... Bachmann

    That's why I asked the question before condemning like a fool

    What’s your Tin foil hat theory here Gramps? Paul secretly wanted the bill to pass so he missed the vote on purpose?
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