Rent Control is a fascist concept, so why do liberals support it?

[OnePercenter]

There is no free-market, never has been, never will be.

Well, let's define "free market". I think the following definition is accurate.

In economics, a free market is a system in which the prices for goods and services are determined by the open market and by consumers. Wikipedia

If the gov doesn´t act, these prices can lead to hardships or they are artificial. That every businessman is a honest and serious guy is not even a myth.

If the gov doesn´t act, these prices can lead to hardships or they are artificial.

If you can't afford my price, why is that suddenly my hardship?

So I can open a business forcing you to pay a fee when you leave and arrive?

Yes, you can charge as high a price as you'd like.
And I'm free to buy or not.
It's called a free market, comrade.

So you're pro price gouging?

There is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

 

[OnePercenter]

Government is socialism to you, I know. For me it is the form of organisation of the one and all agreed upon. Imagine bread is now at 20 bucks, would you starve to death voluntarily, supporting the free market?

Socialism is the theft of resources in order to enrich the socialist under the guise of making things equitable for the people. Every time it's implemented, the standard of living for the people is diminished.

As for your bread analogy, a free-market, capitalist system is what made the U.S. the "bread basket" of the world. While your comrades in the old Soviet Union couldn't feed themselves, American farmers, free of restraint from the government, were hugely PRODUCTIVE and created an abundance of grain for the U.S. and many other nations.

A loaf of bread may cost $20 in a society that opposes the free-market in favor of a government-controlled system such as fascism or communism because the incentive to be productive is REDUCED and so there is LESS supply, hence the cost is higher.

Your ideology on governance and economics destroys ambition, creation and innovation. Why do you think the U.S. is the nation that produces most of the great innovations? It's because the system permits people to be ambitious, industrious and productive. Therefore, they do.

Rent controls, however, defy the aforementioned principles and make for terrible policy.

Why do you think the U.S. is the nation that produces most of the great innovations?

Because the government finances innovation.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well, let's define "free market". I think the following definition is accurate.

In economics, a free market is a system in which the prices for goods and services are determined by the open market and by consumers. Wikipedia

If the gov doesn´t act, these prices can lead to hardships or they are artificial. That every businessman is a honest and serious guy is not even a myth.

If the gov doesn´t act, these prices can lead to hardships or they are artificial.

If you can't afford my price, why is that suddenly my hardship?

So I can open a business forcing you to pay a fee when you leave and arrive?

Yes, you can charge as high a price as you'd like.
And I'm free to buy or not.
It's called a free market, comrade.

So you're pro price gouging?

There is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

So you're pro price gouging?

If you don't like your rent, move.


Can you post your source for "Federal tax rate on Nevada corporations"?
Some moron claims they allow him to pay single digit Federal corporate tax rates.
I bet you can prove him wrong.

 

[OnePercenter]

Liberals, why do you support rent controls?

Because rent is harder and harder to pay each year as it goes up and salaries don't match the cost increases.

But why should others be able to limit how much money another can make on their own property? Should others be permitted to limit your earnings?

That's what you sign-up for when you become a residential landlord because someone fucked-over renters before you, which is the birthplace of all regulation.

And that's what causes more people to say "fuck this" to building rental units and instead build condos or co-ops.

Or convert their existing rental units to condos or Co-ops.

It also causes people like me who don't have a rent controlled apartment to pay more.

Rent control is simply a way of buying votes, and creating patronage jobs.

Despite rent control, there are 48.5 million rental units in the US.

Your rent continues to go up due to greed.

 

[OnePercenter]

You are lucky that your country is driven by the spirit of business.

The U.S. was founded on FREEDOM. That means freedom to be as productive, or non-productive, as one chooses to be. The problem is that folks like you see someone who is wealthy and decides that government should SEIZE some of their wealth and give it to someone else through programs like rent control.

I will tell you this. Rent control is not only immoral, it's also counterproductive. Any time government meddles in the market, the results are usually bad.

I like Lehman bubbles, too. No government intervention!
You see, we have two opinions here. Our country got strong with social market economy. We were a divided, loose bunch of principalities before. But since the Reich was formed and social measures applied, we rose to the top of the continent where we are still today, leaving the anglo-saxon capitalists behind us.

I'm not opposed to laws and regulations. I AM opposed to government dictating what I can charge for the use of my own property.

The need for housing leaves the client in a vulnerable position. The help from the government is welcome.

The need for housing leaves the client in a vulnerable position.

They're free to move.

Says the king of fallacious statements.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The U.S. was founded on FREEDOM. That means freedom to be as productive, or non-productive, as one chooses to be. The problem is that folks like you see someone who is wealthy and decides that government should SEIZE some of their wealth and give it to someone else through programs like rent control.

I will tell you this. Rent control is not only immoral, it's also counterproductive. Any time government meddles in the market, the results are usually bad.

I like Lehman bubbles, too. No government intervention!
You see, we have two opinions here. Our country got strong with social market economy. We were a divided, loose bunch of principalities before. But since the Reich was formed and social measures applied, we rose to the top of the continent where we are still today, leaving the anglo-saxon capitalists behind us.

I'm not opposed to laws and regulations. I AM opposed to government dictating what I can charge for the use of my own property.

The need for housing leaves the client in a vulnerable position. The help from the government is welcome.

The need for housing leaves the client in a vulnerable position.

They're free to move.

Says the king of fallacious statements.

Something forcing you to stay?
Terms of your parole maybe?

 

[OnePercenter]

If the gov doesn´t act, these prices can lead to hardships or they are artificial. That every businessman is a honest and serious guy is not even a myth.

If the gov doesn´t act, these prices can lead to hardships or they are artificial.

If you can't afford my price, why is that suddenly my hardship?

So I can open a business forcing you to pay a fee when you leave and arrive?

Yes, you can charge as high a price as you'd like.
And I'm free to buy or not.
It's called a free market, comrade.

So you're pro price gouging?

There is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

So you're pro price gouging?

If you don't like your rent, move.


Can you post your source for "Federal tax rate on Nevada corporations"?
Some moron claims they allow him to pay single digit Federal corporate tax rates.
I bet you can prove him wrong.

What if you can't afford to move?

FYI; All wealthy persons and US corporations have a single digit tax liability. Even less now due to tRump.

 

[OnePercenter]

I like Lehman bubbles, too. No government intervention!
You see, we have two opinions here. Our country got strong with social market economy. We were a divided, loose bunch of principalities before. But since the Reich was formed and social measures applied, we rose to the top of the continent where we are still today, leaving the anglo-saxon capitalists behind us.

I'm not opposed to laws and regulations. I AM opposed to government dictating what I can charge for the use of my own property.

The need for housing leaves the client in a vulnerable position. The help from the government is welcome.

The need for housing leaves the client in a vulnerable position.

They're free to move.

Says the king of fallacious statements.

Something forcing you to stay?
Terms of your parole maybe?

What if you can't afford to move?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If the gov doesn´t act, these prices can lead to hardships or they are artificial.

If you can't afford my price, why is that suddenly my hardship?

So I can open a business forcing you to pay a fee when you leave and arrive?

Yes, you can charge as high a price as you'd like.
And I'm free to buy or not.
It's called a free market, comrade.

So you're pro price gouging?

There is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

So you're pro price gouging?

If you don't like your rent, move.


Can you post your source for "Federal tax rate on Nevada corporations"?
Some moron claims they allow him to pay single digit Federal corporate tax rates.
I bet you can prove him wrong.

What if you can't afford to move?

FYI; All wealthy persons and US corporations have a single digit tax liability. Even less now due to tRump.

What if you can't afford to move?

Get a roommate.

All wealthy persons and US corporations have a single digit tax liability.

You're full of shit.

Any link on that Nevada Corp. info? DURR.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm not opposed to laws and regulations. I AM opposed to government dictating what I can charge for the use of my own property.

The need for housing leaves the client in a vulnerable position. The help from the government is welcome.

The need for housing leaves the client in a vulnerable position.

They're free to move.

Says the king of fallacious statements.

Something forcing you to stay?
Terms of your parole maybe?

What if you can't afford to move?

Must be a longggggg string of poor life choices if you can't afford to move to a cheaper place.

 

[martybegan]

Liberals, why do you support rent controls?

Because rent is harder and harder to pay each year as it goes up and salaries don't match the cost increases.

But why should others be able to limit how much money another can make on their own property? Should others be permitted to limit your earnings?

That's what you sign-up for when you become a residential landlord because someone fucked-over renters before you, which is the birthplace of all regulation.

And that's what causes more people to say "fuck this" to building rental units and instead build condos or co-ops.

Or convert their existing rental units to condos or Co-ops.

It also causes people like me who don't have a rent controlled apartment to pay more.

Rent control is simply a way of buying votes, and creating patronage jobs.

Despite rent control, there are 48.5 million rental units in the US.

Your rent continues to go up due to greed.

So wanting fair market value for your property is greed?

How about you work for less than your salary?

 

[K9Buck]

There is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

Stupid, fascist parrot that only knows one line.

 

[K9Buck]

Because the government..

No, parrot, it's because people are FREE from over-controlling governments. Obviously, fascist clowns like you are trying to put an end to those freedoms with things like rent control.

 

[K9Buck]

So wanting fair market value for your property is greed?
How about you work for less than your salary?

He doesn't have a problem with greed; he has a problem with your greed.

 

[K9Buck]

If you don't like your rent, move.

Correct. In a free society, people are free to charge as much as they can and other free people are free to pay it or NOT pay it. Well, that's true in most places, but not where fascists like this twat run the show.

 

[K9Buck]

Your rent continues to go up due to greed.

No, stupid, rent rises due to demand in the market place. Rent rises in areas in demand and it remains the same or even drops in areas where demand is low or waning.

 

[OnePercenter]

So I can open a business forcing you to pay a fee when you leave and arrive?

Yes, you can charge as high a price as you'd like.
And I'm free to buy or not.
It's called a free market, comrade.

So you're pro price gouging?

There is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

So you're pro price gouging?

If you don't like your rent, move.


Can you post your source for "Federal tax rate on Nevada corporations"?
Some moron claims they allow him to pay single digit Federal corporate tax rates.
I bet you can prove him wrong.

What if you can't afford to move?

FYI; All wealthy persons and US corporations have a single digit tax liability. Even less now due to tRump.

What if you can't afford to move?

Get a roommate.

All wealthy persons and US corporations have a single digit tax liability.

You're full of shit.

Any link on that Nevada Corp. info? DURR.

Get a roommate.

And if you have a studio or one bedroom, where does the roommate sleep?

 

[OnePercenter]

The need for housing leaves the client in a vulnerable position. The help from the government is welcome.

The need for housing leaves the client in a vulnerable position.

They're free to move.

Says the king of fallacious statements.

Something forcing you to stay?
Terms of your parole maybe?

What if you can't afford to move?

Must be a longggggg string of poor life choices if you can't afford to move to a cheaper place.

Moving expenses, deposits plus first and last is a hefty cost.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, you can charge as high a price as you'd like.
And I'm free to buy or not.
It's called a free market, comrade.

So you're pro price gouging?

There is no free market. Never has been, never will be.

So you're pro price gouging?

If you don't like your rent, move.


Can you post your source for "Federal tax rate on Nevada corporations"?
Some moron claims they allow him to pay single digit Federal corporate tax rates.
I bet you can prove him wrong.

What if you can't afford to move?

FYI; All wealthy persons and US corporations have a single digit tax liability. Even less now due to tRump.

What if you can't afford to move?

Get a roommate.

All wealthy persons and US corporations have a single digit tax liability.

You're full of shit.

Any link on that Nevada Corp. info? DURR.

Get a roommate.

And if you have a studio or one bedroom, where does the roommate sleep?

If you can't afford a studio, move into a one-bedroom with your roommate.

Still no Nevada Corp. info?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Liberals, why do you support rent controls?

when i was younger i was banging this hot sweet piece out on the other side of Brooklyn

She lived in one of daddy trumps apartment towers
she was on the 20 something floor ..what a view of the bay
sweet 2 bedroom apt
after her grammommie died she stayed for years her rent was under 400 bucks for the longest time

I understand why people take advantage of it