Remember when Evangelicals called the Catholic Church, "The Great Whore"?

[Harry Dresden]

Remember when Evangelicals called the Catholic Church, "The Great Whore" and the Pope was the "Anti Christ"?

Suddenly there is all this support for the Catholic Church.

On Morning Joe, the women at the table agreed with Obama, the men with the Catholic Church. No surprise since the church is run completely by men.

During the last Presidential election, the right explained how Viagra should be "free" because a lack of boner is a "medical condition" and birth control is a "lifestyle choice".

This is a controversy that just won't go away. Obama will have to change his strategy. Probably something like, "If you work at a Catholic institution, then you are eligible for a medical voucher". When a poor woman is standing in the servers line at the Catholic hospital making minimum wage slopping slop, then it's unfair to insist she pay $600.00 to $1,200.00 a year for birth control

For the right to say, "Well, if she is having sex then she's a slut and should stop" screw you. Who are you to tell people what is moral? You applaud executions. I watched a "full house" at the Republican Presidential Debate applaud "en mass".

so are you going to suddenly disappear from this thread when the Questions start coming?...

He already has. It's SOP with Rdweeb... posts crap and runs away.... it's hard to cope with facts that don't support your crap... feel sorry for him.

the guy has about as much character as the people he is always bad mouthing...

 

[Avatar4321]

so are you going to suddenly disappear from this thread when the Questions start coming?...

He already has. It's SOP with Rdweeb... posts crap and runs away.... it's hard to cope with facts that don't support your crap... feel sorry for him.

the guy has about as much character as the people he is always bad mouthing...

you think he has that much?

 

[rdean]

I imagine only someone filled with hatred for Christianity would bring up such an offensive topic.

The truth is often offensive. Especially to those who won't face it.

 

[rdean]

Remember when Evangelicals called the Catholic Church, "The Great Whore" and the Pope was the "Anti Christ"?

Suddenly there is all this support for the Catholic Church.

On Morning Joe, the women at the table agreed with Obama, the men with the Catholic Church. No surprise since the church is run completely by men.

During the last Presidential election, the right explained how Viagra should be "free" because a lack of boner is a "medical condition" and birth control is a "lifestyle choice".
This is a controversy that just won't go away. Obama will have to change his strategy. Probably something like, "If you work at a Catholic institution, then you are eligible for a medical voucher". When a poor woman is standing in the servers line at the Catholic hospital making minimum wage slopping slop, then it's unfair to insist she pay $600.00 to $1,200.00 a year for birth control

For the right to say, "Well, if she is having sex then she's a slut and should stop" screw you. Who are you to tell people what is moral? You applaud executions. I watched a "full house" at the Republican Presidential Debate applaud "en mass".

That is pure BS. It was the left and unions that were pushing for coverage of viagra claiming it was a matter of good health. They used this to push for coverage of contrceptive. Conservative believe people shoud pay for their own viagra and such.

The woman could always make her partner wear a condom.

What is worse. Applauding the execution of a scumbag murderer or applauding the senseless slaughter of millions of unborn children?

The GOP Support Men Deducting Viagra But Attack Planned Parenthood

It wasn't Democrats who supported free Viagra. Learn the facts.

Applauding executions is wrong even when the execution was necessary. Republicans let Bin Laden go. This president killed him.

 

[rdean]

If you take money from the government then you play by the governments rules.

Not when your President gives you a promise that you will not be required to go against your conscience. Which is what he did with the Church. Now he wants to back out of that promise... which is typical of him.... but he has seriously misjudged the resolve of Catholics - and Christians, and Jews, and Muslims.

Bullshit.

28 states have this same rule. In fact, 8 states even tax the church. This is a completely invented issue the Republicans did a great job putting together. They have nothing else to run on.

 

[rdean]

Remember when Evangelicals called the Catholic Church, "The Great Whore" and the Pope was the "Anti Christ"?

Suddenly there is all this support for the Catholic Church.

On Morning Joe, the women at the table agreed with Obama, the men with the Catholic Church. No surprise since the church is run completely by men.

During the last Presidential election, the right explained how Viagra should be "free" because a lack of boner is a "medical condition" and birth control is a "lifestyle choice".

This is a controversy that just won't go away. Obama will have to change his strategy. Probably something like, "If you work at a Catholic institution, then you are eligible for a medical voucher". When a poor woman is standing in the servers line at the Catholic hospital making minimum wage slopping slop, then it's unfair to insist she pay $600.00 to $1,200.00 a year for birth control

For the right to say, "Well, if she is having sex then she's a slut and should stop" screw you. Who are you to tell people what is moral? You applaud executions. I watched a "full house" at the Republican Presidential Debate applaud "en mass".

so are you going to suddenly disappear from this thread when the Questions start coming?...

He already has. It's SOP with Rdweeb... posts crap and runs away.... it's hard to cope with facts that don't support your crap... feel sorry for him.

I have a job. And they don't pay me in crumpled singles.

 

[Amelia]

Remember when Evangelicals called the Catholic Church, "The Great Whore" and the Pope was the "Anti Christ"?

Suddenly there is all this support for the Catholic Church.

On Morning Joe, the women at the table agreed with Obama, the men with the Catholic Church. No surprise since the church is run completely by men.

During the last Presidential election, the right explained how Viagra should be "free" because a lack of boner is a "medical condition" and birth control is a "lifestyle choice".
This is a controversy that just won't go away. Obama will have to change his strategy. Probably something like, "If you work at a Catholic institution, then you are eligible for a medical voucher". When a poor woman is standing in the servers line at the Catholic hospital making minimum wage slopping slop, then it's unfair to insist she pay $600.00 to $1,200.00 a year for birth control

For the right to say, "Well, if she is having sex then she's a slut and should stop" screw you. Who are you to tell people what is moral? You applaud executions. I watched a "full house" at the Republican Presidential Debate applaud "en mass".

That is pure BS. It was the left and unions that were pushing for coverage of viagra claiming it was a matter of good health. They used this to push for coverage of contrceptive. Conservative believe people shoud pay for their own viagra and such.

The woman could always make her partner wear a condom.

What is worse. Applauding the execution of a scumbag murderer or applauding the senseless slaughter of millions of unborn children?

The GOP Support Men Deducting Viagra But Attack Planned Parenthood

It wasn't Democrats who supported free Viagra. Learn the facts.

In Wisconsin, it was the teachers union who wanted Viagra even if it meant firing teachers with little seniority to pay for it.

Milwaukee teachers union files suit over lack of Viagra coverage - JSOnline

 

[rdean]

so are you going to suddenly disappear from this thread when the Questions start coming?...

He already has. It's SOP with Rdweeb... posts crap and runs away.... it's hard to cope with facts that don't support your crap... feel sorry for him.

the guy has about as much character as the people he is always bad mouthing...

"Bad mouthing"? How?

 

[rdean]

That is pure BS. It was the left and unions that were pushing for coverage of viagra claiming it was a matter of good health. They used this to push for coverage of contrceptive. Conservative believe people shoud pay for their own viagra and such.

The woman could always make her partner wear a condom.

What is worse. Applauding the execution of a scumbag murderer or applauding the senseless slaughter of millions of unborn children?

The GOP Support Men Deducting Viagra But Attack Planned Parenthood

It wasn't Democrats who supported free Viagra. Learn the facts.

In Wisconsin, it was the teachers union who wanted Viagra even if it meant firing teachers with little seniority to pay for it.

Milwaukee teachers union files suit over lack of Viagra coverage - JSOnline

And I bet they wanted birth control covered too. How can you support Viagra and not support 'birth control".

 

[ABikerSailor]

My question is.........what if there's employees who AREN'T Catholic, who are working for some Catholic involved business (hospitals and colleges come readily to mind), does that mean that those women who don't follow the dictates of that faith be required to pay for their own contraception?

Where's the outrage of the Catholics forcing their views on employees who aren't Catholic?

there isn't any.

if they don't like it, they're welcome to seek employment elsewhere.

Meaning...........if you don't follow our dogma, see employment elsewhere.

Only trouble is............they're not church jobs, they're public sector jobs.

If they have to pay minimum wage, they should also allow for healthcare.

 

[rdean]

My question is.........what if there's employees who AREN'T Catholic, who are working for some Catholic involved business (hospitals and colleges come readily to mind), does that mean that those women who don't follow the dictates of that faith be required to pay for their own contraception?

Where's the outrage of the Catholics forcing their views on employees who aren't Catholic?

there isn't any.

if they don't like it, they're welcome to seek employment elsewhere.

Meaning...........if you don't follow our dogma, see employment elsewhere.

Only trouble is............they're not church jobs, they're public sector jobs.

If they have to pay minimum wage, they should also allow for healthcare.

And hospitals and universities get government money. No one thinks the head of a hospital or university works for free or runs a "charity".

 

[JoeB131]

If you take money from the government then you play by the governments rules.

So if you recieve welfare from the Federal government, they should be allowed to violate your Fourth Amendment rights and search your home whenever the heck they feel like it?

I thought not.

Actually, they already do in some cases.

 

[JoeB131]

My question is.........what if there's employees who AREN'T Catholic, who are working for some Catholic involved business (hospitals and colleges come readily to mind), does that mean that those women who don't follow the dictates of that faith be required to pay for their own contraception?

Where's the outrage of the Catholics forcing their views on employees who aren't Catholic?

there isn't any.

if they don't like it, they're welcome to seek employment elsewhere.

So you are in favor of offering the Public Option?

 

[Stephanie]

If you take money from the government then you play by the governments rules.

How sad this is what a lot of the people think today.

It's not "We the People" anymore. It's, They the Government

 

[Harry Dresden]

so are you going to suddenly disappear from this thread when the Questions start coming?...

He already has. It's SOP with Rdweeb... posts crap and runs away.... it's hard to cope with facts that don't support your crap... feel sorry for him.

I have a job. And they don't pay me in crumpled singles.

ok you have a job......so that doesnt explain why YOU start a thread and then never come back to it ......otherwise why start the fucking thing?.......

 

[Harry Dresden]

He already has. It's SOP with Rdweeb... posts crap and runs away.... it's hard to cope with facts that don't support your crap... feel sorry for him.

the guy has about as much character as the people he is always bad mouthing...

"Bad mouthing"? How?

oh here we go.....Dean playing stupid again.....your shit gets old Dean......you forget,the people your conversing with have been doing so for quite a while now......your "Me?....i do what?....are you serious?".....this may work with SOME of the new posters,but not with those who have experienced your bullshit.....

 

[GuyPinestra]

How many fucking threads on this subject do we need??

 

[California Girl]

How many fucking threads on this subject do we need??

That MY line!

You'll get used to it. Some posters are incapable of joining a discussion... they're 'thoughts' are so unique (by unique, I mean idiotic), that they need their own thread. It gets tiring after a while. Group Stupid... it's scary.

 

[kwc57]

The government should not be backing "Faith based initiatives" in the first place.

Damn straight! The government should be confiscating more and more of the public's wealth and providing those services instead!

 

[MarcATL]

Remember when Evangelicals called the Catholic Church, "The Great Whore" and the Pope was the "Anti Christ"?

Suddenly there is all this support for the Catholic Church.

On Morning Joe, the women at the table agreed with Obama, the men with the Catholic Church. No surprise since the church is run completely by men.

During the last Presidential election, the right explained how Viagra should be "free" because a lack of boner is a "medical condition" and birth control is a "lifestyle choice".

This is a controversy that just won't go away. Obama will have to change his strategy. Probably something like, "If you work at a Catholic institution, then you are eligible for a medical voucher". When a poor woman is standing in the servers line at the Catholic hospital making minimum wage slopping slop, then it's unfair to insist she pay $600.00 to $1,200.00 a year for birth control

For the right to say, "Well, if she is having sex then she's a slut and should stop" screw you. Who are you to tell people what is moral? You applaud executions. I watched a "full house" at the Republican Presidential Debate applaud "en mass".

I disagree with Obama on this and I believe he's wrong. Notwithstanding the hypocrisy of The Catholic Church and Catholic members and the Evangelicals for that matter. The implications of this controversy and the public discourse is very deep, spiritually speaking and biblically speaking, but I won't go there now.

With that said, I have a feeling that this may be a move to get the people of the mindset for Public Option.

With Public Option, this would not have been an issue.

Obama could very well be playing chess, while every one else is playing checkers.