Remember the 1980's?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Libertarian2009, Oct 11, 2009.

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Do you miss me now?

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    Where are people like Reagan today? Reagan kept our spirits up in the 80's, Ended the cold war, lowered taxes to an all time low. And said stuff like Government isn't the solution to our problem, Government is the problem. Granted he spent money while he was president but, nothing like Bush did and Obama is today. Perhaps Reagan was the reason times were good in the 90's. Times weren't as bad in the late 80's as they are now.

    Why can't we get another president that will listen to the "people" like Reagan did?
     

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    Reagan spent record highs for the time. The reason the cold war ended was due to the collapse of the Soviet economy due to a mixture of the war in Afghanistan (in which we funded Osama Bin Laden) and trying to keep up with our defense spending.

    So let's get that checklist out:

    1.) Numerous tax raises under his Administration.

    2.) Expansion of Government.

    3.) Iran-Contra.

    4.) Giving CIA training, funding, and weapons to Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.

    5.) Giving Saddam Hussein weapons to go and kill Iran.

    6.) Ignoring AIDS

    7.) He said Jefferson David was a "hero of his" in 1980.

    8.) Did not support the creation of Martin Luther King holiday.

    9.) Supported South Africa despite of the apartheid.

    10.) Ramped up the oppressive "War on Drugs" to new levels.

    And the beat goes on. So no, I don't miss a Reagan Administration.
     
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    Don't know where you get your facts from but I worked through the 1980's. Taxes by Reagan's second term were at 11% where as before it was 33%.

    One of Reagan's famous quotes; Governments view of the economy could be summed up to a few short phrases : if it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. and if it stops moving subsidize it.
     
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    Your taxes might of been, not the same for everyone else though.

    Social Security and Medicare taxes increased. The U.S. Debt increased from $700 billion to $3 trillion.

    Never mind the various tax acts that passed under Reagan that affected businesses and others.
     
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    Ended COld War, check.
    Reined in air traffic controllers, check.
    Deregulated industry, check
    Vetoed milk price support from his hospital bed, check
    Ushered in longest GDP expansion in post WW2 history, check
    Made America a force in the world again, check.

    Yup, I'd say Reagan managed to turn back the shitstorm that was Carter and then some. I hope we can find someone that capable after Obama.
     
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    Libruls are hopeless douchebags when it comes to discussing Reagan.

    The only person they hate more that Reagan is Sarah Palin.

    I highly and I mean HIGHLY recommend wearing a Hazmat suit in this thread because you will see Hateful Libruls spewing froth, spittle and venom every other post.

    Reagan deficits = Evil!!!! Obama Deficits = Good. See the difference?
     
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    In exchange for trying to end the Cold War. He armed many of our future enemies. What's that old saying? The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
     
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    reagan ran from libya and obama will run from ag & iraq.
     
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    Like who? Name three.
    You are blaming him because he couldn't predict the future? That's some claim.
     
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    That's sorta like saying you knocked out a guy because he tripped over himself.

    Exploding the deficit in the process.

    Why would anyone trust someone making that claim to administer the government? It would be like a church turning over their outreach to atheists.


    The national debt tripled in the eight years Reagan was in office. That was 50% faster than the rate of increase under Bush.
     

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