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Powerman said:But to me it's just funny pictures of a fictional character.
gop_jeff said:No one - and by "no one" I mean "no one with an education past 5th grade" - believes that Jesus was a fictional character. Even the most vocal opponents of Christianity beleive that Jesus was a historical man, who really did live in first-century Judea.
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_275.htmlIf what you're looking for is proof positive that Jesus Christ lived and breathed--e.g., library card, baby pictures, etc.--you're out of luck. The big guy left no written records, and no accounts of his life were written while he was still alive. The earliest Gospels date from maybe 70 AD, 40 years after his demise.
gop_jeff said:No one - and by "no one" I mean "no one with an education past 5th grade" - believes that Jesus was a fictional character. Even the most vocal opponents of Christianity beleive that Jesus was a historical man, who really did live in first-century Judea.
Max Power said:
Max Power's Link said:Still, barring an actual conspiracy, 40 years is too short a time for an entirely mythical Christ to have been fabricated out of (heh-heh) whole cloth. (See below.) Certainly the non-Christians who wrote about him in the years following his putative death did not doubt he had once lived. The Roman historian Tacitus, writing in his Annals around 110 AD, mentions one "Christ, whom the procurator Pontius Pilate had executed in the reign of Tiberius." The Jewish historian Josephus remarks on the stoning of "James, the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ." The Talmud, a collection of Jewish writings, also refers to Christ, although it says he was the illegitimate son of a Roman soldier called Panther. Doubts about the historicity of Christ did not surface until the 18th century.
I said he *probably* existed.gop_jeff said:And from that very link:
Powerman said:I guess I don't see it as bad since I don't believe in Jesus...but I could see how it would be really offensive to some people. But to me it's just funny pictures of a fictional character.
Max Power said:
Powerman said:Haha. Yeah I meant fictional in the sense that I don't believe he is more than a mortal man.
manu1959 said:he died...of course he was mortal.....
manu1959 said:guess the roman historical texts at the national museum are not real....thanks so much clearing that up for me
Powerman said:Yeah but most regular people don't come back to life to talk shit.
Kathianne said:Personally, I think the whole concept of this thread sucks. I would say that even if there was a pick of Muhammed or Allah, made out of shit. Still not funny.
Powerman said:And judging by those comments I would say you are one hell of a buzzkill to be around. If you can't take some religious humor then you probably take things too seriously.
Hagbard Celine said:Why do you take two baptists fishing with you? Because if you only take one, he'll drink all your beer!
I've heard this one, but my version is different...Powerman said:Kinda reminds me...
What are the 2 things in religion that are definitely factual?
Jews don't recognize Jesus as the Messiah
Baptists don't recognize other babtists in liquor stores
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