‘Religion of peace’ is not a harmless platitude

[barryqwalsh]

To face Islamist terror, we must face the facts about Islam's history



'Religion of peace' is not a harmless platitude - Spectator Blogs

 

[Dhara]

Do you think the history of Christianity is without violence?

 

[Dhara]

The risk of an American being killed by any act of terrorism in a given year is roughly one in 3.5 million, and the chances are that the act of terrorism won’t be committed by an Islamist.
No, Islam Isn’t Inherently Violent, And The Math Proves It

 

[the_human_being]

 

[pismoe]

check out the world wide violence that muslims have brought the world Dhara . Doesn't matter to the dead that they only have a slight chance of being killed by a muslim . I call islam Satans religion so Yes ' islam is violent Dhara and thanks for posting the info Barry !!

 

[pismoe]

islam has a history of violence starting at its very invention in the 650 - 700 AD right after it was invented . I should find out the exact date of the invention of 'islam' but my dates are close to correct Dhara .

 

[pismoe]

date of founding of 'islam' that I quote is close enough but shortly after the founding of islam the muslims started on conquest . Spain and Portugal were the first to fall to the Islamic hordes I think !!

 

[Dhara]

check out the world wide violence that muslims have brought the world Dhara . Doesn't matter to the dead that they only have a slight chance of being killed by a muslim . I call islam Satans religion so Yes ' islam is violent Dhara and thanks for posting the info Barry !!

You seem to think Islam is an inherently violent religion, I do not.

The percentage of Muslims engaging in violence today is a minute fraction of the total Muslim population, which is now around 1.6 billion (23% of the world’s population). If you add together even the highest estimates of participants in all the Islamic extremist groups (e.g., ISIS, Al Queda, the Taliban, Boko Haram), the total is a fraction of 1% of this population.

Claiming Islam is inherently violent on the basis of the behavior of a tiny minority of professing Muslims is like claiming Christianity is inherently racist because groups like the Aryan Nation and Ku Klux Klan profess to be Christian.

Second, if the violence of professing Muslims proves Islam is inherently violent, then consistency demands that we conclude that the Christian religion also is inherently violent, for up until three and half centuries ago, professing Christians routinely engaged in violence that was every bit as barbaric as what Islam extremists are doing today.

As long as people place their ultimate allegiance to a belief above loving other people at all costs, they will feel justified, whenever they deem it necessary, to kill people in the name of their belief. - See more at: Is Islam Inherently Violent? - Greg Boyd - ReKnew

 

[pismoe]

invasion of Spain was in 711 and they held on to 1492 when the muslim rulers were kicked out !! And Spain was only one example of muslim aggression Dhara . Heck , in later days in the very early 1800s the USA had to fight its First war against the muslims of the 'Barbary states' that were plaguing / pirating American shipping . The pirating was a long standing custom of the muslims of the Barbary States . They targeted the English and after America became independent the USA lost any English protection so then the USA had to fight the muslim pirates themselves Dhara .

 

[pismoe]

check out the world wide violence that muslims have brought the world Dhara . Doesn't matter to the dead that they only have a slight chance of being killed by a muslim . I call islam Satans religion so Yes ' islam is violent Dhara and thanks for posting the info Barry !!

You seem to think Islam is an inherently violent religion, I do not.

The percentage of Muslims engaging in violence today is a minute fraction of the total Muslim population, which is now around 1.6 billion (23% of the world’s population). If you add together even the highest estimates of participants in all the Islamic extremist groups (e.g., ISIS, Al Queda, the Taliban, Boko Haram), the total is a fraction of 1% of this population.

Claiming Islam is inherently violent on the basis of the behavior of a tiny minority of professing Muslims is like claiming Christianity is inherently racist because groups like the Aryan Nation and Ku Klux Klan profess to be Christian.

Second, if the violence of professing Muslims proves Islam is inherently violent, then consistency demands that we conclude that the Christian religion also is inherently violent, for up until three and half centuries ago, professing Christians routinely engaged in violence that was every bit as barbaric as what Islam extremists are doing today.

- See more at: Is Islam Inherently Violent? - Greg Boyd - ReKnew See more at: Is Islam Inherently Violent? - Greg Boyd - ReKnew

------------------------ as I said in an earlier post , the dead guys that were targeted and murdered by the muslim 'farooks' in San Bernadino' don't care about the math . Samr for the dead when muslims attacked in France a couple of times at Bataclan and Charlie Hebdo . And got nothing to do with opinions as all that needs to be done is to look at the history of violence and aggression that muslims have caused . And its not just a current problem with muslims as muslim violence and aggression has gone on for centuries Dhara !!

 

[Dhara]

You are the one claiming the entire religion is inherently violent. I don't dispute the fact that some terrorists are Muslim. Terrorists in Northern Ireland were all Christian, either Protestant or Catholic.

 

[Dhara]

In the Holy Qur’an, God begins to deal with the issue of terrorism by teaching Muslims never to become terrorists in the first place. Two of the very first verses of our Holy Book say: ‘Al-Fitnatu ashad-du minal qatl’ – meaning that in the sight of Allah, ‘persecution, or making people constantly fear for their lives, is much worse than killing’. And also: ‘Lâ ikrâha fid-dîn’ – ‘There shall be no compulsion in religion’, that is to say, that no one has the right to force others into complying with their demands or compelling others to follow their line of thinking.

Allah Almighty warns the believers again and again that they should never abandon Him, the source of all goodness. Allah Almighty reminds us that it is those who have abandoned Him and thrown away all good, and divested themselves of every shred of human decency, that are the ones who will eventually resort to terrorizing others, forcing them into complying with their demands. The believers are repeatedly reminded that they would lose Allah Almighty’s love and His favors if they ever began to behave in that way.

But Islam does not content itself with these injunctions strongly forbidding Muslims from ever becoming terrorists. It also makes sure that the believers are made into highly moral, excellently behaved people, by inculcating those lofty human values that can turn them into people who sincerely love humankind without distinction of religion, race or social status. Islam no doubt encourages the logical and rational discussion of views with people of all creeds in a calm and dispassionate way, with the only aim that truth prevail over error and falsehood. But it also reminds us that it is error and falsehood as such that are to be hated and detested. The people who unfortunately hold on to error are never to be hated. That is why the motto of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is ‘Love for all, hatred for none.’

In Islam, an amazingly powerful emphasis is laid on developing love for mankind and on the vital importance of showing mercy and sympathy towards every creature of Allah Almighty, including human beings and animals. For indeed, love and true sympathy are the very antidote of terrorism.
Islam’s Response to Terrorism

 

[pismoe]

Christianity does not advocate violence in spreading Christianity . 'islam' does as it converts by the sword . Besides that , this thread is about islam and muslims and that's the only thing that I am going to talk about in this thread Dhara . Otherwise it just becomes a mish mash of yelling and lying .

 

[pismoe]

In the Holy Qur’an, God begins to deal with the issue of terrorism by teaching Muslims never to become terrorists in the first place. Two of the very first verses of our Holy Book say: ‘Al-Fitnatu ashad-du minal qatl’ – meaning that in the sight of Allah, ‘persecution, or making people constantly fear for their lives, is much worse than killing’. And also: ‘Lâ ikrâha fid-dîn’ – ‘There shall be no compulsion in religion’, that is to say, that no one has the right to force others into complying with their demands or compelling others to follow their line of thinking.

Allah Almighty warns the believers again and again that they should never abandon Him, the source of all goodness. Allah Almighty reminds us that it is those who have abandoned Him and thrown away all good, and divested themselves of every shred of human decency, that are the ones who will eventually resort to terrorizing others, forcing them into complying with their demands. The believers are repeatedly reminded that they would lose Allah Almighty’s love and His favors if they ever began to behave in that way.

But Islam does not content itself with these injunctions strongly forbidding Muslims from ever becoming terrorists. It also makes sure that the believers are made into highly moral, excellently behaved people, by inculcating those lofty human values that can turn them into people who sincerely love humankind without distinction of religion, race or social status. Islam no doubt encourages the logical and rational discussion of views with people of all creeds in a calm and dispassionate way, with the only aim that truth prevail over error and falsehood. But it also reminds us that it is error and falsehood as such that are to be hated and detested. The people who unfortunately hold on to error are never to be hated. That is why the motto of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is ‘Love for all, hatred for none.’

In Islam, an amazingly powerful emphasis is laid on developing love for mankind and on the vital importance of showing mercy and sympathy towards every creature of Allah Almighty, including human beings and animals. For indeed, love and true sympathy are the very antidote of terrorism.
Islam’s Response to Terrorism

------------------------------- yeah right , all you need do is look at what islam actually does and they are now practicing violence and aggression world wide . It'll be pretty interesting when the islamist get nukes and the means to deliver those nukes Dhara .

 

[pismoe]

check out the killing of Fahrkunda and maybe open your eyes Dhara . Its more violence by her muslim neighbors in her village rather than world wide terrorism but the video is an eye opener of relations between one 27 year old lady and her neighbors Dhara !! --- The New York Times - The Killing of Farkhunda --- check it out , although it is pretty violent Dhara .