Reid: Senate Will Not Pass A Budget This Year...

[G.T.]

^ Fascist.

 

[occupied]

<semantic fussiness>

Note Bene... The Budget is not a constitutional requirement. It is a law passed in 1913

That said, it is the law, and the Senate is not following their legal obligations.
</semantic fussiness>

That said, The democrats have not done anything with the budget in the last three years, and it appears from what is going on with Obama and the Senate they aren't interested in doing a budget next year either.

Last year the house, under Republican control, fulfilled their obligation and sent a budget to the Senate. The previous two years under Democrat control they failed to do so.

Blaming Republicans for Democrat foot dragging and buck passing is a very destructive form of dishonesty.

And that said, we did very well up until 1913 without one. Ever since the late sixties the whole process has degenerated into worse and worse farce and so I for one do not mourn the fact that the budget laws are becoming a dead letter. The sky has not fallen without the budget. As a matter of fact the economic sky fell twice with it. In his pig headed intransigence, Reid may be doing us a favor if we finally just move on without this farce getting in the way.

Republicans submitted the Ryan bill and then walked away from negotiations, republican freshmen trying to get everything in one go derailed the budget process, we all know it, why is it even being discussed? In effect the senate did their required part by showing up at the negotiating table, if there is no one from the house then what is the use? That silly Norquist pledge must really have them by the balls.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Republican freshmen need to treat the Dems like the bad debtors they are, you want Mo' money, submit a budget, then talk to us again in three months.

The very idea that Democrats can blast three consecutive trillion holes in our spending without bothering to pass a budget is criminal

 

[G.T.]

Republican freshmen need to treat the Dems like the bad debtors they are, you want Mo' money, submit a budget, then talk to us again in three months.

The very idea that Democrats can blast three consecutive trillion holes in our spending without bothering to pass a budget is criminal

But you're the good debator, who wants all who oppose him politically to be jailed.



sit the fuck down ya crank.

 

[Wiseacre]

<semantic fussiness>

Note Bene... The Budget is not a constitutional requirement. It is a law passed in 1913

That said, it is the law, and the Senate is not following their legal obligations.
</semantic fussiness>

That said, The democrats have not done anything with the budget in the last three years, and it appears from what is going on with Obama and the Senate they aren't interested in doing a budget next year either.

Last year the house, under Republican control, fulfilled their obligation and sent a budget to the Senate. The previous two years under Democrat control they failed to do so.

Blaming Republicans for Democrat foot dragging and buck passing is a very destructive form of dishonesty.

And that said, we did very well up until 1913 without one. Ever since the late sixties the whole process has degenerated into worse and worse farce and so I for one do not mourn the fact that the budget laws are becoming a dead letter. The sky has not fallen without the budget. As a matter of fact the economic sky fell twice with it. In his pig headed intransigence, Reid may be doing us a favor if we finally just move on without this farce getting in the way.

Republicans submitted the Ryan bill and then walked away from negotiations, republican freshmen trying to get everything in one go derailed the budget process, we all know it, why is it even being discussed? In effect the senate did their required part by showing up at the negotiating table, if there is no one from the house then what is the use? That silly Norquist pledge must really have them by the balls.

The Senate showed up? With what? No budget, no plan of their own, nothing to deal from. You don't just show up, you present your side and they present theirs and you get down to business. The democrats never had any intention of agreeing to anything, they sole purpose was to paint the repubs as the obstructionist party when it was the dems who refused to do anything concrete. C'mon dude, get serious; over a trillion dollar deficit, and those fuckwad democrats wouldn't cut a measly one fucking percent.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Republican freshmen need to treat the Dems like the bad debtors they are, you want Mo' money, submit a budget, then talk to us again in three months.

The very idea that Democrats can blast three consecutive trillion holes in our spending without bothering to pass a budget is criminal

But you're the good debator, who wants all who oppose him politically to be jailed.



sit the fuck down ya crank.

Criminal Democrats who violate their oath of office and break the law need to be jailed. You're ok with trillion dollar deficits and no budgets because it's Democrats destroying us financially and got us one downgrade already?

Get off the Democrat plantation

 

[G.T.]

Republican freshmen need to treat the Dems like the bad debtors they are, you want Mo' money, submit a budget, then talk to us again in three months.

The very idea that Democrats can blast three consecutive trillion holes in our spending without bothering to pass a budget is criminal

But you're the good debator, who wants all who oppose him politically to be jailed.



sit the fuck down ya crank.

Criminal Democrats who violate their oath of office and break the law need to be jailed. You're ok with trillion dollar deficits and no budgets because it's Democrats destroying us financially and got us one downgrade already?

Get off the Democrat plantation

No, both parties got us downgraded. Your delusions of reality only allow your pea brain to see things one way - when reality is evident to the rest of us.

both parties suck a dick, neither more than the other.

 

[occupied]

<semantic fussiness>

Note Bene... The Budget is not a constitutional requirement. It is a law passed in 1913

That said, it is the law, and the Senate is not following their legal obligations.
</semantic fussiness>

That said, The democrats have not done anything with the budget in the last three years, and it appears from what is going on with Obama and the Senate they aren't interested in doing a budget next year either.

Last year the house, under Republican control, fulfilled their obligation and sent a budget to the Senate. The previous two years under Democrat control they failed to do so.

Blaming Republicans for Democrat foot dragging and buck passing is a very destructive form of dishonesty.

And that said, we did very well up until 1913 without one. Ever since the late sixties the whole process has degenerated into worse and worse farce and so I for one do not mourn the fact that the budget laws are becoming a dead letter. The sky has not fallen without the budget. As a matter of fact the economic sky fell twice with it. In his pig headed intransigence, Reid may be doing us a favor if we finally just move on without this farce getting in the way.

Republicans submitted the Ryan bill and then walked away from negotiations, republican freshmen trying to get everything in one go derailed the budget process, we all know it, why is it even being discussed? In effect the senate did their required part by showing up at the negotiating table, if there is no one from the house then what is the use? That silly Norquist pledge must really have them by the balls.

The Senate showed up? With what? No budget, no plan of their own, nothing to deal from. You don't just show up, you present your side and they present theirs and you get down to business. The democrats never had any intention of agreeing to anything, they sole purpose was to paint the repubs as the obstructionist party when it was the dems who refused to do anything concrete. C'mon dude, get serious; over a trillion dollar deficit, and those fuckwad democrats wouldn't cut a measly one fucking percent.

Oh no the republicans walked away from what would have been a pretty sweet deal for them, Democrats agreed to some pretty deep cuts but they insisted on some new revenue. The fact that they walked away means that they have more loyalty to Norquist then the people who voted for them. What does this this arch lobbyist have that inspires such devotion?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

But you're the good debator, who wants all who oppose him politically to be jailed.



sit the fuck down ya crank.

Criminal Democrats who violate their oath of office and break the law need to be jailed. You're ok with trillion dollar deficits and no budgets because it's Democrats destroying us financially and got us one downgrade already?

Get off the Democrat plantation

No, both parties got us downgraded. Your delusions of reality only allow your pea brain to see things one way - when reality is evident to the rest of us.

both parties suck a dick, neither more than the other.

Both parties didn't control Congress and fail to pass a budget, that was Democrats

 

[AmericanFirst]

It's not the senate's job to propose the budget, the process must start in the house. Are republicans going to make one? It seems the normal process has been derailed, they had to hotwire the process to keep things going. Thank the teabaggers.

They have, the idiot reid refuses to vote on it. Reid is an idiot.

 

[occupied]

It's not the senate's job to propose the budget, the process must start in the house. Are republicans going to make one? It seems the normal process has been derailed, they had to hotwire the process to keep things going. Thank the teabaggers.

They have, the idiot reid refuses to vote on it. Reid is an idiot.

Has the house voted on a budget for 2013? News to me. Last Years budget battle ENDED in stalemate. It's a new year, the government is funded through the year, there will be no house budget bill for the senate to vote on, should they bother when the house is just going to skip it?

 

[AmericanFirst]

It's not the senate's job to propose the budget, the process must start in the house. Are republicans going to make one? It seems the normal process has been derailed, they had to hotwire the process to keep things going. Thank the teabaggers.

They have, the idiot reid refuses to vote on it. Reid is an idiot.

Has the house voted on a budget for 2013? News to me. Last Years budget battle ENDED in stalemate. It's a new year, the government is funded through the year, there will be no house budget bill for the senate to vote on, should they bother when the house is just going to skip it?

The House has sent budgets to the Senate, reid refuses to bring them up for a vote. Reid is the problem.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's not the senate's job to propose the budget, the process must start in the house. Are republicans going to make one? It seems the normal process has been derailed, they had to hotwire the process to keep things going. Thank the teabaggers.

They have, the idiot reid refuses to vote on it. Reid is an idiot.

Has the house voted on a budget for 2013? News to me. Last Years budget battle ENDED in stalemate. It's a new year, the government is funded through the year, there will be no house budget bill for the senate to vote on, should they bother when the house is just going to skip it?

How many times can you get it wrong?

 

[American Horse]

It's not the senate's job to propose the budget, the process must start in the house. Are republicans going to make one? It seems the normal process has been derailed, they had to hotwire the process to keep things going. Thank the teabaggers.

The house proposes and the senate disposes; by not taking it up for consideration. They don't negotiate because with a willing media they aren't called to task. The Democrats own 1/2 the legislative and the executive, and they can simply say, credibly to an uninformed public, that the house has produced nothing.

 

[occupied]

They have, the idiot reid refuses to vote on it. Reid is an idiot.

Has the house voted on a budget for 2013? News to me. Last Years budget battle ENDED in stalemate. It's a new year, the government is funded through the year, there will be no house budget bill for the senate to vote on, should they bother when the house is just going to skip it?

The House has sent budgets to the Senate, reid refuses to bring them up for a vote. Reid is the problem.

That is not the way it is done, After a budget bill passes the house it will be amended by the Senate committees and sent back, they don't ever just vote on it, the Senate and the House go into often secret negotiation. I was assuming that most of us knew how the budget process used to work.

 

[American Horse]

A "budget" is just a spending bill. And the Senate have passed plenty of spending bills.

And this is how you blow an annual trillion + hole in the deficit and get downgraded to boot.

We have a national political party of TOTAL FUCKING ECONOMIC ILLITERATES

Not so Frank; they know exactly what they are doing, and they know who will be blamed for the outcome.

If they didn't own the media we'd have a chance with an informed public, but we don't.

 

[American Horse]

The budget process for 2013 was scheduled to start any day now. It officially starts the first or second Monday in Feb. with the president's budget proposal to the house then they make their own and then they vote and if passed it then goes to the senate who then vote no and then propose their own budget. The debt ceiling deal made all this unnecessary this year, keep up.

MMMMMMMMM so they swing a deal then state we don't need to do what our institution has done for years past and you don't think its problematic? DC is a mess from both sides Ried sucks as a majority leader he had his time and needs to go. This deal making resolution juggling trick is a joke and they all should be ashamed.

Of course they should be ashamed but the myth that the senate is responsible for there being no budget only works for people who are not clear on how the budget process works.

Although the Senate cannot originate a budget they do get the opportunity to negotiate with the house once the house has proposed one. If they don't precisely concur they are obligated to meet in conference and dispose of the differences. The Senate has refused to join in the process, thereby nullifying the budget process, incurring a process of continuing resolutions. They feel safe in doing this because the media which should expose it for the departure that it is sees it as an advantage to the side they favor - their team - and ignore it in their reporting.

 

[occupied]

MMMMMMMMM so they swing a deal then state we don't need to do what our institution has done for years past and you don't think its problematic? DC is a mess from both sides Ried sucks as a majority leader he had his time and needs to go. This deal making resolution juggling trick is a joke and they all should be ashamed.

Of course they should be ashamed but the myth that the senate is responsible for there being no budget only works for people who are not clear on how the budget process works.

Although the Senate cannot originate a budget they do get the opportunity to negotiate with the house once the house has proposed one. If they don't precisely concur they are obligated to meet in conference and dispose of the difrerences. The Senate has refused to join in the process, thereby nullifying the budget process, incurring a process of continuing resolutions. They feel safe in doing this because the media which should expose it for the departure that it is sees it as an advantage to the side they favor - their team - and ignore it in their reporting.

You might want to check on who actually walked away from the lengthy negotiations that actually took place.

 

[driveby]

You have to be trolling, no one could actually be such a perfect caricature of a bad conservative.

Why dont you address the point paulitician made about budget having been proposed?

I already have but he didn't like answer that the house now has to act first, it being a new year and all. As for last year, the republicans walked away from the last budget negotiations that were held and then punted the decision to that stupor committee.

Why couldn't democrats pass a budget when they had both houses? .......

 

[Trajan]

<semantic fussiness>

Note Bene... The Budget is not a constitutional requirement. It is a law passed in 1913

That said, it is the law, and the Senate is not following their legal obligations.
</semantic fussiness>

That said, The democrats have not done anything with the budget in the last three years, and it appears from what is going on with Obama and the Senate they aren't interested in doing a budget next year either.

Last year the house, under Republican control, fulfilled their obligation and sent a budget to the Senate. The previous two years under Democrat control they failed to do so.

Blaming Republicans for Democrat foot dragging and buck passing is a very destructive form of dishonesty.

And that said, we did very well up until 1913 without one. Ever since the late sixties the whole process has degenerated into worse and worse farce and so I for one do not mourn the fact that the budget laws are becoming a dead letter. The sky has not fallen without the budget. As a matter of fact the economic sky fell twice with it. In his pig headed intransigence, Reid may be doing us a favor if we finally just move on without this farce getting in the way.

Republicans submitted the Ryan bill and then walked away from negotiations, republican freshmen trying to get everything in one go derailed the budget process, we all know it, why is it even being discussed? In effect the senate did their required part by showing up at the negotiating table, if there is no one from the house then what is the use? That silly Norquist pledge must really have them by the balls.

wtf are you talking about?

the process is the pres submits a budget guideline plan, a 'budget request' to congress, then the house and senate have their committees massage it and add what they want take out what they don't etc etc..then vote in their chambers.

next step, they conference together, the house and senate, to join the 2 mark ups of the presidents bill together and create a concurrent resolution which then goes to the pres.


the senate never committed on their own bill OR the house bill, which the rep house passed from their chamber and sent to Reid.



The pres's plan which he submitted way late, after the house created theirs, reid allowed that obama budget request to come up and, blam, it got shot down 97-0.........zero.



what he will propose will simply be another rehash, see, he can then say 'do nothing' congress but when it comes to the budget, baby, it was alllllll dems. they own it, not that anyone is holding them accountable.

If the public saw a one year tab, laid out as a total sum budget hell would break lose, that would be, for the dems very very bad, and most especially with the mid terms coming up in 2010, they blew it off, just like 2009. so now they have tanked of for what looks like the third year now......