Reid: Senate Will Not Pass A Budget This Year...

[paulitician]

Rather than being a foul mouthed jerk maybe you can tell everyone how the senate can pass a budget without the house, bearing in mind that it is a new year and the house needs to act first??

Yeah, let us all know when you're done occupying your Dear Leader's butthole. Till then, there's no point discussing logic with you. It's just a huge boring waste of time. So come back when you're done sniffing your Dear Leader's butthole, and then we can talk.

Did you start drinking heavy or something? The quality and rationality of your comments has fallen off a cliff lately. Seriously.

Uh didn't quite get that, with your nose still jammed up your Dear Leader's butthole.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

A "budget" is just a spending bill. And the Senate have passed plenty of spending bills.

And this is how you blow an annual trillion + hole in the deficit and get downgraded to boot.

We have a national political party of TOTAL FUCKING ECONOMIC ILLITERATES

 

[Katzndogz]

It's Bush's fault.

 

[ScienceRocks]

A "budget" is just a spending bill. And the Senate have passed plenty of spending bills.

And this is how you blow an annual trillion + hole in the deficit and get downgraded to boot.

We have a national political party of TOTAL FUCKING ECONOMIC ILLITERATES

DEMOCRATS THINK YOU CAN SPEND UNLIMITED MONEY WITHOUT CONCERN. Look at history to see why this is VERY bad. Democrats, why not just spend as much as you want without a budget or passing anything if you believe as you do?

 

[Ed Spacer]

Liar. Budgets have been proposed. That asshole Harry Reid is stalling everything. Hopefully that will change in November though. The Dems gots to go.

Impeachment!!!!!!!

You have to be trolling, no one could actually be such a perfect caricature of a bad conservative.

Why dont you address the point paulitician made about budget having been proposed?

 

[occupied]

Impeachment!!!!!!!

You have to be trolling, no one could actually be such a perfect caricature of a bad conservative.

Why dont you address the point paulitician made about budget having been proposed?

I already have but he didn't like answer that the house now has to act first, it being a new year and all. As for last year, the republicans walked away from the last budget negotiations that were held and then punted the decision to that stupor committee.

 

[Zoom-boing]

A "budget" is just a spending bill. And the Senate have passed plenty of spending bills.

And this is how you blow an annual trillion + hole in the deficit and get downgraded to boot.

We have a national political party of TOTAL FUCKING ECONOMIC ILLITERATES

You have to be trolling, no one could actually be such a perfect caricature of a bad conservative.

Why dont you address the point paulitician made about budget having been proposed?

I already have but he didn't like answer that the house now has to act first, it being a new year and all. As for last year, the republicans walked away from the last budget negotiations that were held and then punted the decision to that stupor committee.

Were you bitching when the Dems had both houses and didn't pass a budget?

Oh, wait. That's different. Somehow, it just is. ~daveman~

 

[chikenwing]

The budget process for 2013 was scheduled to start any day now. It officially starts the first or second Monday in Feb. with the president's budget proposal to the house then they make their own and then they vote and if passed it then goes to the senate who then vote no and then propose their own budget. The debt ceiling deal made all this unnecessary this year, keep up.

MMMMMMMMM so they swing a deal then state we don't need to do what our institution has done for years past and you don't think its problematic? DC is a mess from both sides Ried sucks as a majority leader he had his time and needs to go. This deal making resolution juggling trick is a joke and they all should be ashamed.

 

[Trajan]

A "budget" is just a spending bill. And the Senate have passed plenty of spending bills.

I am sorry but thats a huge mischaracterization Doc. Creating, voting and locking in a plan is one thing, spending willy nilly via Continuing Appropriations Resolutions is a way to game the system.

the 1974 budget process had been followed , with fits and starts until? well, you know.... the house has failed to pass a res. under the gop but they passed a budget that the senate did take up and , via a process I despise in the bush years voted twice via reconciliation, which just requires 50 votes, no cloture. But we have not gone year to year to year like this, its been over 2 years and 6 months since we had a budget. You'll also notice the lack of media coverage over this.....

 

[occupied]

The budget process for 2013 was scheduled to start any day now. It officially starts the first or second Monday in Feb. with the president's budget proposal to the house then they make their own and then they vote and if passed it then goes to the senate who then vote no and then propose their own budget. The debt ceiling deal made all this unnecessary this year, keep up.

MMMMMMMMM so they swing a deal then state we don't need to do what our institution has done for years past and you don't think its problematic? DC is a mess from both sides Ried sucks as a majority leader he had his time and needs to go. This deal making resolution juggling trick is a joke and they all should be ashamed.

Of course they should be ashamed but the myth that the senate is responsible for there being no budget only works for people who are not clear on how the budget process works.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

What a fucking moron!

'Occupied' occupies Obama's butthole with his or her nose. So don't expect any honesty or logic from him or her.

Rather than being a foul mouthed jerk maybe you can tell everyone how the senate can pass a budget without the house, bearing in mind that it is a new year and the house needs to act first??

I think you have two points of confusion. The only legislation that needs to start in the house is new tax laws. The budget does not qualify as a new tax law.

Also, the house has passed budgets for last year. The Senate never voted on it. The previous democrat dominated house failed to pass a budget as well their last year of control.

So, to recapitulate your errors, budget acts can start in either house. The house has passed a budget that the senate ignored, and this is the third year we have been without a budget because of democrat foot dragging and intransigence. And given the way the white house and senate are spinning things, we will go a fourth year without one.

Not that I mind. I have long thought the budget process a farce.

 

[Wiseacre]

The budget process for 2013 was scheduled to start any day now. It officially starts the first or second Monday in Feb. with the president's budget proposal to the house then they make their own and then they vote and if passed it then goes to the senate who then vote no and then propose their own budget. The debt ceiling deal made all this unnecessary this year, keep up.

MMMMMMMMM so they swing a deal then state we don't need to do what our institution has done for years past and you don't think its problematic? DC is a mess from both sides Ried sucks as a majority leader he had his time and needs to go. This deal making resolution juggling trick is a joke and they all should be ashamed.

Of course they should be ashamed but the myth that the senate is responsible for there being no budget only works for people who are not clear on how the budget process works.

I'm not following, why isn't the Senate responsible for passing a budget of their own if they do not sign off on the president's budget or the House's version? Looks to me like they don't have the guts to take a stand on how much should be spent on whatever.

 

[occupied]

MMMMMMMMM so they swing a deal then state we don't need to do what our institution has done for years past and you don't think its problematic? DC is a mess from both sides Ried sucks as a majority leader he had his time and needs to go. This deal making resolution juggling trick is a joke and they all should be ashamed.

Of course they should be ashamed but the myth that the senate is responsible for there being no budget only works for people who are not clear on how the budget process works.

I'm not following, why isn't the Senate responsible for passing a budget of their own if they do not sign off on the president's budget or the House's version? Looks to me like they don't have the guts to take a stand on how much should be spent on whatever.

What's the use if the republican house will not even negotiate, that's where the 2012 budget failed, with the republicans walking away from negotiations. Without the cooperation of the house the senate has no business trying to pass a budget. More than anyone else the house has the responsibly for the budget. There is no hope of getting anything out of them this year so why bother? They are not going accept the slightest compromise so fuck them, maybe their base likes them to be ideologically bound but the rest of the country, not so much.

 

[Wiseacre]

Of course they should be ashamed but the myth that the senate is responsible for there being no budget only works for people who are not clear on how the budget process works.

I'm not following, why isn't the Senate responsible for passing a budget of their own if they do not sign off on the president's budget or the House's version? Looks to me like they don't have the guts to take a stand on how much should be spent on whatever.

What's the use if the republican house will not even negotiate, that's where the 2012 budget failed, with the republicans walking away from negotiations. Without the cooperation of the house the senate has no business trying to pass a budget. More than anyone else the house has the responsibly for the budget. There is no hope of getting anything out of them this year so why bother? They are not going accept the slightest compromise so fuck them, maybe their base likes them to be ideologically bound but the rest of the country, not so much.

And you think the dems are willing to negotiate? The repubs passed a budget; Obama came out with a budhget, ridiculous though it was. The Senate rejected it, 97-0. But the Senate doesn't have the balls to present their own version. Hard to negotiate when one side offers a ridiculous budget or nothing at all, don't you think?

 

[Trajan]

The budget process for 2013 was scheduled to start any day now. It officially starts the first or second Monday in Feb. with the president's budget proposal to the house then they make their own and then they vote and if passed it then goes to the senate who then vote no and then propose their own budget. The debt ceiling deal made all this unnecessary this year, keep up.

and last years budget? how about the year before?

 

[The T]

Worst U.S. Senate in History? You bet.


Senate Democratic leaders do not plan to propose a budget this year, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told reporters Friday, saying that they had already done so with the debt-ceiling agreement.

“We do not need to bring a budget to the floor this year — it’s done, we don’t need to do it,” Reid said, according to The Hill.

Democrats have said that the agreement reached to raise the debt ceiling set spending for Fiscal Year 2012.

North Dakota Democratic Sen. Kent Conrad, chairman of the Budget Committee, has said he will mark up a budget resolution this year, per an agreement he made with Budget Committee ranking member and Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions.

Technically, Conrad marking up a budget resolution, but not ever bringing it to the floor, per Reid’s comments, does not violate that agreement, conceded a Republican aide, but the staffer went on to blast Reid’s comment.

“What’s the point of marking up a budget if you’re not going to bring it to the floor for debate and vote?” fumed the Republican aide.

“It’s been more than 1,000 days since Senate Democrats have offered a budget plan to the American people. Now, once again, the Senate’s ineffectual Democrat majority balks at the task of leadership,” said Sessions in a statement.

“He obviously continues in his belief that it would be politically foolish for his members to go on record in support of any long-term vision. But by refusing to lay out a budget plan for public examination—a fact no one can deny—the Democrat Senate has forfeited the high privilege to lead this chamber,” he went on.


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Your Threadline should have read: "Dingy Harry Reid: WE will NOT Follow The Constitution...AGAIN...Over 1,000 Days And Counting"

 

[Baruch Menachem]

<semantic fussiness>

Note Bene... The Budget is not a constitutional requirement. It is a law passed in 1913

That said, it is the law, and the Senate is not following their legal obligations.
</semantic fussiness>

That said, The democrats have not done anything with the budget in the last three years, and it appears from what is going on with Obama and the Senate they aren't interested in doing a budget next year either.

Last year the house, under Republican control, fulfilled their obligation and sent a budget to the Senate. The previous two years under Democrat control they failed to do so.

Blaming Republicans for Democrat foot dragging and buck passing is a very destructive form of dishonesty.

And that said, we did very well up until 1913 without one. Ever since the late sixties the whole process has degenerated into worse and worse farce and so I for one do not mourn the fact that the budget laws are becoming a dead letter. The sky has not fallen without the budget. As a matter of fact the economic sky fell twice with it. In his pig headed intransigence, Reid may be doing us a favor if we finally just move on without this farce getting in the way.

 

[Trajan]

<semantic fussiness>

Note Bene... The Budget is not a constitutional requirement. It is a law passed in 1913

That said, it is the law, and the Senate is not following their legal obligations.
</semantic fussiness>

That said, The democrats have not done anything with the budget in the last three years, and it appears from what is going on with Obama and the Senate they aren't interested in doing a budget next year either.

Last year the house, under Republican control, fulfilled their obligation and sent a budget to the Senate. The previous two years under Democrat control they failed to do so.

Blaming Republicans for Democrat foot dragging and buck passing is a very destructive form of dishonesty.

And that said, we did very well up until 1913 without one. Ever since the late sixties the whole process has degenerated into worse and worse farce and so I for one do not mourn the fact that the budget laws are becoming a dead letter. The sky has not fallen without the budget. As a matter of fact the economic sky fell twice with it. In his pig headed intransigence, Reid may be doing us a favor if we finally just move on without this farce getting in the way.

the 'new' process began in 1974...


anyway, obama cannot get his term paper in on time as in- the budget is late again, I mean its not like he didn't know this date was coming and even the Times says its just a rehash from several months ago.....man oh man seriously, I would pay $1.000 to see his full transcripts for all post high school ed.

 

[Wiseacre]

<semantic fussiness>

Note Bene... The Budget is not a constitutional requirement. It is a law passed in 1913

That said, it is the law, and the Senate is not following their legal obligations.
</semantic fussiness>

That said, The democrats have not done anything with the budget in the last three years, and it appears from what is going on with Obama and the Senate they aren't interested in doing a budget next year either.

Last year the house, under Republican control, fulfilled their obligation and sent a budget to the Senate. The previous two years under Democrat control they failed to do so.

Blaming Republicans for Democrat foot dragging and buck passing is a very destructive form of dishonesty.

And that said, we did very well up until 1913 without one. Ever since the late sixties the whole process has degenerated into worse and worse farce and so I for one do not mourn the fact that the budget laws are becoming a dead letter. The sky has not fallen without the budget. As a matter of fact the economic sky fell twice with it. In his pig headed intransigence, Reid may be doing us a favor if we finally just move on without this farce getting in the way.

I think it's more than dishonest, it's cowardly. The lib/dems don't have the guts to put their budget up for the American people to see. They won't cut spending and they can't get enough revenue to come close to making up the deficit so they refuse to show any details or plans about a budget. In the military we called it dereliction of duty. It may or may not be good politics, but it's rotten leadership.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

<semantic fussiness>

Note Bene... The Budget is not a constitutional requirement. It is a law passed in 1913

That said, it is the law, and the Senate is not following their legal obligations.
</semantic fussiness>

That said, The democrats have not done anything with the budget in the last three years, and it appears from what is going on with Obama and the Senate they aren't interested in doing a budget next year either.

Last year the house, under Republican control, fulfilled their obligation and sent a budget to the Senate. The previous two years under Democrat control they failed to do so.

Blaming Republicans for Democrat foot dragging and buck passing is a very destructive form of dishonesty.

And that said, we did very well up until 1913 without one. Ever since the late sixties the whole process has degenerated into worse and worse farce and so I for one do not mourn the fact that the budget laws are becoming a dead letter. The sky has not fallen without the budget. As a matter of fact the economic sky fell twice with it. In his pig headed intransigence, Reid may be doing us a favor if we finally just move on without this farce getting in the way.

And Dems want unlimited, unfettered refills of their spending crack pipe, they should all be arrested