redistribution of wealth

[Political Junky]

"Do not waste your time on Social Questions. What is the matter with the poor is Poverty; what is the matter with the rich is Uselessness." George Bernard Shaw

another idiot quoting the Fabian socialist George Bernard Shaw....did you know he advocated killing people who "did not carry their weight".....that he supported Hitler and mass murder....?

...that sure would take care of lots of "redistribution" problems....

Do you spend a lot of time reading Shaw? Thought not.

 

[Listening]

Is it now?

Just look at the present. The financial class create an economic catastrophe. For which they are bailed out less the whole system go down the drain. But rather than putting a bunch of them in Leavenworth, where they belong, they were allowed to walk off with golden parachutes, while the people that had worked all their lives lost their jobs and homes.

So guess who picks up these homes for pennies on the dollar? That is not a transfer of wealth from the middle and working poor to the wealthy? Countless examples like this are out there. What do you think the OWS movement is about?

And just how did they do that...through government help.

OWS should be marching on D.C. as well as Wall Street.

 

[skookerasbil]

Meh. I prefer to earn what I get.

indeed...............

been doing it for 35 years now and dont regret it a single day. I give plenty my whole life to the slackers. And they always want more...........and more.............and more. I give slackers opportunity all the time and what do they do? They stick it in my eye without a second thought. And I'm suppossed to feel guilty?


meh

All this polarization is good for the country because one day, and I think soon enough, its going to come to a head. And I know who's not winning!!!

 

[rdean]

One sees the 'Conservatives' react as if one has suggested immoral acts at the mention of wealth redistribution by whatever means. Socialism, communism, fascism, what ever favorite term of the moment is applied to any such suggestion.

Yet one can clearly see the rank hypocracy of the right wing when you consider that for the last 40 years we have been seeing massive wealth redistribution from the working poor and the middle class to the very wealthy. And nary a peep from the 'Conservatives'.

It seems that only wealth redistribution from the very wealthy to the rest of us is considered bad. Wealth going the other way seems to be considered a good thing to these people. So, wealth going to those that have little to those that have much is a good thing, but wealth going the other way is a bad thing. A very interesting philosophy.

That's because Republicans despise the poor and the middle class. This is why you get "let him die" and why they applaud executions. Most Republicans aren't rich, but they believe that one day they will be. They think of themselves as "millionaires without funds". They feel that one day, their ship will come in so they are protecting their "future" money.

They are fucking delusional. Everything points to that. Their failed and awful economic policies. Their weird ideas about science. The way they want to make sex "evil". Their desires to go start wars. Supporting political candidates that shit all over them. And the lies about everyone not them. Fucking delusional.

 

[auditor0007]

One sees the 'Conservatives' react as if one has suggested immoral acts at the mention of wealth redistribution by whatever means. Socialism, communism, fascism, what ever favorite term of the moment is applied to any such suggestion.

Yet one can clearly see the rank hypocracy of the right wing when you consider that for the last 40 years we have been seeing massive wealth redistribution from the working poor and the middle class to the very wealthy. And nary a peep from the 'Conservatives'.

It seems that only wealth redistribution from the very wealthy to the rest of us is considered bad. Wealth going the other way seems to be considered a good thing to these people. So, wealth going to those that have little to those that have much is a good thing, but wealth going the other way is a bad thing. A very interesting philosophy.

That wasn't wealth redistribution; it was a group of people working much harder than everyone else with no advantages whatsoever. And we should be grateful for all their hard work, because now they are going to provide us with all kinds of great jobs.

 

[Againsheila]

Those who work for the money, those who invest their money, those who stay up late trying to make payroll for their employees, those who hustle and find work for the people they employ. The owner who stays up late and try's to find a better way to run his company.

What about his employee who worked overtime for free to keep the company running? Does he not "earn" a share of the profits when the company is doing well?

Unless an employee has it set up in his hire package about getting some of the profit no they do not earn any of it. The profit goes back to the company to keep the employee working. If a company gave it profits to the employee the company would not be able to stay in business and keep the employee gainfully employed.

You really don't know what "earn" means, do you?

 

[Againsheila]

Is it now?

Just look at the present. The financial class create an economic catastrophe. For which they are bailed out less the whole system go down the drain. But rather than putting a bunch of them in Leavenworth, where they belong, they were allowed to walk off with golden parachutes, while the people that had worked all their lives lost their jobs and homes.

So guess who picks up these homes for pennies on the dollar? That is not a transfer of wealth from the middle and working poor to the wealthy? Countless examples like this are out there. What do you think the OWS movement is about?

And just how did they do that...through government help.

OWS should be marching on D.C. as well as Wall Street.

Just wait....it'll get there.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

What about his employee who worked overtime for free to keep the company running? Does he not "earn" a share of the profits when the company is doing well?

Unless an employee has it set up in his hire package about getting some of the profit no they do not earn any of it. The profit goes back to the company to keep the employee working. If a company gave it profits to the employee the company would not be able to stay in business and keep the employee gainfully employed.

You really don't know what "earn" means, do you?

Apparently you don't. So give me your definition of earned?

 

[Mr.Nick]

One sees the 'Conservatives' react as if one has suggested immoral acts at the mention of wealth redistribution by whatever means. Socialism, communism, fascism, what ever favorite term of the moment is applied to any such suggestion.

Yet one can clearly see the rank hypocracy of the right wing when you consider that for the last 40 years we have been seeing massive wealth redistribution from the working poor and the middle class to the very wealthy. And nary a peep from the 'Conservatives'.

It seems that only wealth redistribution from the very wealthy to the rest of us is considered bad. Wealth going the other way seems to be considered a good thing to these people. So, wealth going to those that have little to those that have much is a good thing, but wealth going the other way is a bad thing. A very interesting philosophy.

You just cant steal out of envy.....

Stealing is wrong and envy is worse..

Wealth is not finite its infinite, NO ONE IS SEALING FROM YOUR SORRY ASS. That shit er concept is all in your dumb fucking head....

 

[bripat9643]

The wealthy never obtained their wealth by taking it from the poor and working class

So just where did they get it? Did they print it?

You really don't know, do you?

The fact that people like you can vote is truly scary.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Blame the government that forced lending - not the banks..

It's our government that tried to dictate our currency not the fucking banks....

 

[editec]

I find it amusing that our conservative contingent cannot make up their minds about wealth distribution.

On one hand they deny it is happening.

On the other, they claim that it is a good thing.

 

[Old Rocks]

Our 'Conservatives' are sad little minds that haven't the slightest inkling of history.

Eighth Annual Message to Congress by Theodore Roosevelt

It is very earnestly to be wished that our people, through their representatives, should act in this matter. It is hard to say whether most damage to the country at large would come from entire failure on the part of the public to supervise and control the actions of the great corporations, of from the exercise of the necessary governmental power in a way which would do injustice and wrong to the corporations. Both the preachers of an unrestricted individualism, and the preachers of an oppression which would deny to able men of business the just reward of their intuitive and business sagacity, are advocating policies that would be fraught with the greatest harm to the whole country. To permit every lawless capitalist, every law-defying corporation, to take any action, no matter how iniquitous, in the effort to secure an improper profit and to build up privilege, would be ruinous to the Republic and would mark the abandonment of the effort to secure in the industrial world, the spirit of democratic fair dealing. On the other hand, to attach these wrongs in that sprit of demagogy, which can see wrong only when committed by the man of wealth, and ins dumb and blind in the presence of wrong committed against men of property or by men of no property, is exactly as evil as corruptly to defend the wrong — doing of men of wealth. The war we wage must be waged against misconduct, against wrong-doing wherever it is found; and we must stand heartily for the rights of every decent man, whether he be a man of great wealth or a man who earns his livelihood as a wage-worker or as a tiller of the soil.

The major portion of the present concentration of wealth is due to those that run the corperations taking the money off the top for exorbent salaries, tens to hundreds of millions of dollars, at the cost of the shareholders and the people on the factory floor that actually produce the good. This must be changed for the good of our nation.

 

[rightwinger]

I contribute enough don't you think it's time for those who don't contribute start pulling their fair share?

Would you prefer that they stop paying for the rent or for food to satisfy your fair share?

I would prefer they strive to do better to live within their means. To be self-sufficient. Keep them trap in a welfare state and that's where they will be years down the road.

Dab gum it!

Wats a matter with you poor people? Why don't you just pick yourself up by the bootstraps and stop being poor?

 

[rightwinger]

Define "earn!"

Those who work for the money, those who invest their money, those who stay up late trying to make payroll for their employees, those who hustle and find work for the people they employ. The owner who stays up late and try's to find a better way to run his company.

What about his employee who worked overtime for free to keep the company running? Does he not "earn" a share of the profits when the company is doing well?

Of course not...

The manager that made him work for free deserves the profits

 

[Full-Auto]

Those who work for the money, those who invest their money, those who stay up late trying to make payroll for their employees, those who hustle and find work for the people they employ. The owner who stays up late and try's to find a better way to run his company.

What about his employee who worked overtime for free to keep the company running? Does he not "earn" a share of the profits when the company is doing well?

Of course not...

The manager that made him work for free deserves the profits

LOL Cute straw man guys. Maybe we should pass some laws that make the practice illegal.

 

[rightwinger]

What about his employee who worked overtime for free to keep the company running? Does he not "earn" a share of the profits when the company is doing well?

Of course not...

The manager that made him work for free deserves the profits

LOL Cute straw man guys. Maybe we should pass some laws that make the practice illegal.

You mean like labor laws?

 

[bripat9643]

Get a job loser

Is that your recommendation for the unemployed?

 

[rightwinger]

Get a job loser

Is that your recommendation for the unemployed?

No

For you

 

[bripat9643]

What about his employee who worked overtime for free to keep the company running? Does he not "earn" a share of the profits when the company is doing well?

Anyone who works for free is a damn fool. I have had clients demand that I work 70 or 80 hours a week and only bill for 40. I gave them the middle finger salute. Every consultant who agreed to do it got screwed.