Record snowfall buries Anchorage!

Okay, so there's a lot I don't know about Alaska. For example, I would have thought all the hot Palin air would be enough to melt mountains of snow and ice. I guess, however, the frigid blast of Trump's budget, immigration policy and failed health insurance repeal and replacement has reached all the way to Alaska.

More to the point, however, what I want to know is how is it that eight inches of snow in Anchorage, AK, a place that has averaged ~75 inches of snow a year since 1981 is a newsworthy event? I read the story linked in the OP. I saw stated in it that "The snowfall wasn't unusual for Anchorage, or for the time of year," according to meteorologist Rebecca Duell.

Yes, it's more than the prior record, but it's friggin Alaska, not Hawaii !!! And yet residents there were "suprised" by the snowfall. That's like being surprised that a big wave happened in the Drake Passage, or that there was a sandstorm in the Sahara.

I'm sitting here trying to figure out whether readers are supposed to take this thread seriously. I mean it's not as though the news story connected the story with something. The OPer tries to, I think, but frankly, the manner in which s/he does so suggests a profound ignorance of the distinctions between "weather" and "climate;" thus I'm giving him/her the benefit of the doubt and presuming that the OP is meant to be humorous, but I'm not sure....

That happens with me daily when I read USMB posts. I see so much absurdity that I am constantly asking myself, "Is that person serious, or are they just trying to get a laugh?" So, as usual, I've responded, and based on what the member says, or doesn't say, I'll know.
 
Wow! Ain't that something. It almost never snows in Alaska.
It is a record moron.

Did you read the very short AP news story long enough to get to this sentence, "The snowfall wasn't unusual for Anchorage, or for the time of year, Duell said?"

What that means is all those previous six, five, seven and less than 8.8 inch snowfalls that happened in Anchorage roughly around this time of year weren't quite as much snow, but snowing about this much isn't bizarre.
 
Okay, so there's a lot I don't know about Alaska. For example, I would have thought all the hot Palin air would be enough to melt mountains of snow and ice. I guess, however, the frigid blast of Trump's budget, immigration policy and failed health insurance repeal and replacement has reached all the way to Alaska.

More to the point, however, what I want to know is how is it that eight inches of snow in Anchorage, AK, a place that has averaged ~75 inches of snow a year since 1981 is a newsworthy event? I read the story linked in the OP. I saw stated in it that "The snowfall wasn't unusual for Anchorage, or for the time of year," according to meteorologist Rebecca Duell.

Yes, it's more than the prior record, but it's friggin Alaska, not Hawaii !!! And yet residents there were "suprised" by the snowfall. That's like being surprised that a big wave happened in the Drake Passage, or that there was a sandstorm in the Sahara.

I'm sitting here trying to figure out whether readers are supposed to take this thread seriously. I mean it's not as though the news story connected the story with something. The OPer tries to, I think, but frankly, the manner in which s/he does so suggests a profound ignorance of the distinctions between "weather" and "climate;" thus I'm giving him/her the benefit of the doubt and presuming that the OP is meant to be humorous, but I'm not sure....

That happens with me daily when I read USMB posts. I see so much absurdity that I am constantly asking myself, "Is that person serious, or are they just trying to get a laugh?" So, as usual, I've responded, and based on what the member says, or doesn't say, I'll know.

Take a deep breath and follow me through this.

It was a...record. It did not say snow where no snow has gone before. It was a...record. Snow normally forms below 32 degrees. Ice usually melts above 32 degrees. There seemed to be a conflict in more snow and less ice. It was a...record. Moron
 
The reporter in the video was talking about traffic back-ups, car crashes and how much snow it is to shovel as though the event happened in Atlanta not Alaska.



Frankly, I don't know why people in Anchorage, AK ever shovel snow from their driveways and walkways. I damn sure wouldn't. I've never been to Anchorage, but I know they have electricity, and I know it's going to snow there, a lot.

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This is what regular folks, folks who don't live in "Trump Country," where it also snows reliably do. They install or retrofit their driveways with heat. (Yes, it can be pricey to do, but it doesn't have to be.) It's sort of mind boggling that heated driveways/walkways aren't standard equipment for houses in Alaska just as air conditioning is in Arizona. That's Trumpkins for you....
 
Retreating glaciers a sign of Alaska’s major meltdown

As the climate warms, glacier retreat is just one impact that climate scientists expect to happen more frequently. Melting permafrost and sea ice are also causing major problems. Some Alaskan coastal communities have already been forced to move inland as sea level rise erodes the coastline and thawing permafrost causes infrastructure to fail.



Melting this summer is far-outpacing climate projections, says Julienne Stroeve, a research scientist for the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC), based in Boulder, Colorado.

Alaskan glaciers in total lose ice at a rate of around 75 billion metric tons each year, according to a 2015 study by the U.S. Geological Survey and University of Alaska, Fairbanks. But this summer, reports NSIDC, glaciers are melting 70 percent faster than the typical rate, thanks to warming temperatures.


View of the Mendenhall Glacier, adjacent to Suicide Basin near Juneau, Alaska.
U.S. Department of Agriculture
Over the past 60 years, the state’s average temperature has increased by about 3 degrees, about twice the rate of warming experienced by the rest of the country, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, and over the past three months temperatures have run as much as 8 degrees Fahrenheit above normal. Under current climate projections, temperatures can be expected to rise up to 12 degrees in the north, 10 degrees in the interior, and 8 degrees in the rest of the state by 2050.

A single snowfall of maybe an inch more than has been recorded on that day of the year before is far less significant than what it happening with the glaciers.
 

In the real world.....more denier cult kook-tard losing....more retarded confusion of climate with weather.....more desperate drivel.....

Here's the real records being broken in Alaska.


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The North Pole is an insane 36 degrees warmer than normal as winter descends
The Washington Post
by Chris Mooney, Jason Samenow,
November 19, 2016
(excerpts)
People in the science community are watching the chaos in the Arctic right now. It's polar night there now – the sun isn't rising in much of the Arctic. That's when the Arctic is supposed to get super-cold, when the sea ice that covers the vast Arctic Ocean is supposed to grow and thicken.

But in fall 2016 – which has been a zany year for the region, with multiple records set for low levels of monthly sea ice – something is totally off. The Arctic is superhot, even as a vast area of cold polar air has been displaced over Siberia.

At the same time, one of the key indicators of the state of the Arctic – the extent of sea ice covering the polar ocean – is at a record low right now. The ice is freezing up again, as it always does this time of year after reaching its September low, but it isn't doing so as rapidly as usual.

In fact, the ice's area is even lower than it was during the record-low 2012.

This is the second year in a row that temperatures near the North Pole have risen to freakishly warm levels. During 2015's final days, the temperature near the Pole spiked to the melting point thanks to a massive storm that pumped warm air into the region.

So what's going on here?

"It's about 20C (36 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than normal over most of the Arctic Ocean, along with cold anomalies of about the same magnitude over north-central Asia," Jennifer Francis, an Arctic specialist at Rutgers University, said by email Wednesday.

"The Arctic warmth is the result of a combination of record-low sea-ice extent for this time of year, probably very thin ice, and plenty of warm/moist air from lower latitudes being driven northward by a very wavy jet stream."

Francis has published research suggesting that the jet stream, which travels from west to east across the Northern Hemisphere in the mid-latitudes, is becoming more wavy and elongated as the Arctic warms faster than the equator does.

"It will be fascinating to see if the stratospheric polar vortex continues to be as weak as it is now, which favors a negative Arctic Oscillation and probably a cold mid/late winter to continue over central and eastern Asia and eastern North America. The extreme behavior of the Arctic in 2016 seems to be in no hurry to quit," Francis continued.

Francis cited the work of Judah Cohen, a forecaster with Atmospheric and Environmental Research, who has linked odd jet stream behavior with cold air over Siberia.

Indeed, another Arctic expert, James Overland with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said that the jet stream at the moment is well configured to transport warmth northward into the Arctic. "There is strong warm advection into the Arctic, especially northern-central Canada, in through the Atlantic, and east Siberian/Chukchi Sea," Overland said.

The whole situation is pretty extreme, several experts agreed.

"Both the persistence and magnitude of these temperature anomalies are quite unusual," Labe added by email. "Large variability in temperatures are common in the Arctic (especially during the cold-season), but the duration of this warm Arctic – cold Siberia pattern is unusual and quite an impressive crysophere/sea ice feedback." (The "cryosphere" refers to that part of the Earth's system that is made up of ice.)

Abnormally warm air has flooded the Arctic since October. Richard James, a meteorologist who pens a blog on Alaska weather, analyzed 19 weather stations surrounding the Arctic Ocean and found that the average temperature was about 4 degrees (2 Celsius) above the record set in 1998.

Since November, temperatures have risen even higher. "It is amazing to see that the warmth has become even more pronounced since the end of October," James wrote on his blog.

Mark Serreze, who heads the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado, agrees that something odd is going on. Not only are air temperatures unusually warm, but water temperatures are as well. "There's some areas in the Arctic ocean that are as much as 25 degrees Fahrenheit above average now," Serreze said. "It's pretty crazy."
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Baked Alaska: Heat records shattered across state

USA TODAY
by Doyle Rice
July 14, 2016
(excerpts)

Heat records have been shattered this week in Alaska, typically the USA's coldest state.

Deadhorse, located near the coast of the Arctic Ocean, skyrocketed to a record 85 degrees Wednesday, the warmest temperature ever recorded in that area, the National Weather Service said.

It was also the state's highest temperature ever measured within 50 miles of the Arctic, climatologist Brian Brettschneider, who lives in Alaska, said.

The average high temperature this time of year in Deadhorse is 57 degrees, Weather Underground reports.

Brettschneider also said the heat index at Tanana, Alaska, on Wednesday was 85 degrees. It was 88 degrees in Fairbanks on Wednesday, hotter than New York City's 85 degrees.

The heat wave follows a freakishly warm start to the year in Alaska. It was the warmest winter, spring and first six months of the year there, according to NOAA. So far in 2016, the state's average temperature is 30.4 degrees, some 9 degrees higher than normal.


 
I know this is not about record snow but:

I survived and lived thru the April Fools Blizzard of 1997! We got 3 feet of snow, Boston got 2 feet ....

The Hubby and I walked down to the town square from our home to get to a convenience store to buy some half and half for my coffee and were hoping they were opened when we got there....we bought the half and half and noticed that the town Pub was opened...this was before noon or right around noon....and the place was PACKED....hahahahahaha! so, Matt and I decided to join the party and stayed in the pub for a few hours meeting all of our new neighbors in town....we had not lived there but two months and didn't really know anyone in the town, we moved up to Massachusetts from Florida....

But this weird April Fools Blizzard changed all of that!!! hahahahaha...it was SO MUCH FUN, getting drunk as a skunk with the hubby and new found townsmen in the 250 year old bar...no one cared about how much they were drinking because no one could drive anywhere, we were all walking!

I found these pictures on google images to give you an idea of how much snow the region got!



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In the real world.....more denier cult kook-tard losing....more retarded confusion of climate with weather.....more desperate drivel.....

Here's the real records being broken in Alaska.


***

The North Pole is an insane 36 degrees warmer than normal as winter descends
The Washington Post
by Chris Mooney, Jason Samenow,
November 19, 2016
(excerpts)
People in the science community are watching the chaos in the Arctic right now. It's polar night there now – the sun isn't rising in much of the Arctic. That's when the Arctic is supposed to get super-cold, when the sea ice that covers the vast Arctic Ocean is supposed to grow and thicken.

But in fall 2016 – which has been a zany year for the region, with multiple records set for low levels of monthly sea ice – something is totally off. The Arctic is superhot, even as a vast area of cold polar air has been displaced over Siberia.

At the same time, one of the key indicators of the state of the Arctic – the extent of sea ice covering the polar ocean – is at a record low right now. The ice is freezing up again, as it always does this time of year after reaching its September low, but it isn't doing so as rapidly as usual.

In fact, the ice's area is even lower than it was during the record-low 2012.

This is the second year in a row that temperatures near the North Pole have risen to freakishly warm levels. During 2015's final days, the temperature near the Pole spiked to the melting point thanks to a massive storm that pumped warm air into the region.

So what's going on here?

"It's about 20C (36 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than normal over most of the Arctic Ocean, along with cold anomalies of about the same magnitude over north-central Asia," Jennifer Francis, an Arctic specialist at Rutgers University, said by email Wednesday.

"The Arctic warmth is the result of a combination of record-low sea-ice extent for this time of year, probably very thin ice, and plenty of warm/moist air from lower latitudes being driven northward by a very wavy jet stream."

Francis has published research suggesting that the jet stream, which travels from west to east across the Northern Hemisphere in the mid-latitudes, is becoming more wavy and elongated as the Arctic warms faster than the equator does.

"It will be fascinating to see if the stratospheric polar vortex continues to be as weak as it is now, which favors a negative Arctic Oscillation and probably a cold mid/late winter to continue over central and eastern Asia and eastern North America. The extreme behavior of the Arctic in 2016 seems to be in no hurry to quit," Francis continued.

Francis cited the work of Judah Cohen, a forecaster with Atmospheric and Environmental Research, who has linked odd jet stream behavior with cold air over Siberia.

Indeed, another Arctic expert, James Overland with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said that the jet stream at the moment is well configured to transport warmth northward into the Arctic. "There is strong warm advection into the Arctic, especially northern-central Canada, in through the Atlantic, and east Siberian/Chukchi Sea," Overland said.

The whole situation is pretty extreme, several experts agreed.

"Both the persistence and magnitude of these temperature anomalies are quite unusual," Labe added by email. "Large variability in temperatures are common in the Arctic (especially during the cold-season), but the duration of this warm Arctic – cold Siberia pattern is unusual and quite an impressive crysophere/sea ice feedback." (The "cryosphere" refers to that part of the Earth's system that is made up of ice.)

Abnormally warm air has flooded the Arctic since October. Richard James, a meteorologist who pens a blog on Alaska weather, analyzed 19 weather stations surrounding the Arctic Ocean and found that the average temperature was about 4 degrees (2 Celsius) above the record set in 1998.

Since November, temperatures have risen even higher. "It is amazing to see that the warmth has become even more pronounced since the end of October," James wrote on his blog.

Mark Serreze, who heads the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado, agrees that something odd is going on. Not only are air temperatures unusually warm, but water temperatures are as well. "There's some areas in the Arctic ocean that are as much as 25 degrees Fahrenheit above average now," Serreze said. "It's pretty crazy."
***

Baked Alaska: Heat records shattered across state

USA TODAY
by Doyle Rice
July 14, 2016
(excerpts)

Heat records have been shattered this week in Alaska, typically the USA's coldest state.

Deadhorse, located near the coast of the Arctic Ocean, skyrocketed to a record 85 degrees Wednesday, the warmest temperature ever recorded in that area, the National Weather Service said.

It was also the state's highest temperature ever measured within 50 miles of the Arctic, climatologist Brian Brettschneider, who lives in Alaska, said.

The average high temperature this time of year in Deadhorse is 57 degrees, Weather Underground reports.

Brettschneider also said the heat index at Tanana, Alaska, on Wednesday was 85 degrees. It was 88 degrees in Fairbanks on Wednesday, hotter than New York City's 85 degrees.

The heat wave follows a freakishly warm start to the year in Alaska. It was the warmest winter, spring and first six months of the year there, according to NOAA. So far in 2016, the state's average temperature is 30.4 degrees, some 9 degrees higher than normal.
Global warming! Global Warming!

Oops. Perhaps just climate change.

Nope! Genuine Global Warming hitting the Arctic and causing climate changes. Climate changes are one of the consequence of global warming, and both are currently human caused. Both terms, which have significantly different meanings, have been in use in climate science publications since the 1970s or earlier, and still are. The fraudulent denier cult propaganda meme that scientists "changed the name" a while ago to supposedly to "hide" the non-existent "cooling" that denier cultists lie about, is just another denier cult myth. In the real world, 16 of the 17 hottest years on record have happened in this century, since the year 2000.
 
Skook is now raving that it snowed in Alaska. Looks like his cult is seriously desperate for anything to deflect from their total failure in the scientific world.

A non-tard, of course, would ask what the temperature was. And the answer would be "not that cold". Global warming doesn't mean below-freezing days will stop all across the globe. Warmer cold air holds more moisture, and can produce more snowfall.
 
Retreating glaciers a sign of Alaska’s major meltdown

As the climate warms, glacier retreat is just one impact that climate scientists expect to happen more frequently. Melting permafrost and sea ice are also causing major problems. Some Alaskan coastal communities have already been forced to move inland as sea level rise erodes the coastline and thawing permafrost causes infrastructure to fail.



Melting this summer is far-outpacing climate projections, says Julienne Stroeve, a research scientist for the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC), based in Boulder, Colorado.

Alaskan glaciers in total lose ice at a rate of around 75 billion metric tons each year, according to a 2015 study by the U.S. Geological Survey and University of Alaska, Fairbanks. But this summer, reports NSIDC, glaciers are melting 70 percent faster than the typical rate, thanks to warming temperatures.


View of the Mendenhall Glacier, adjacent to Suicide Basin near Juneau, Alaska.
U.S. Department of Agriculture
Over the past 60 years, the state’s average temperature has increased by about 3 degrees, about twice the rate of warming experienced by the rest of the country, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, and over the past three months temperatures have run as much as 8 degrees Fahrenheit above normal. Under current climate projections, temperatures can be expected to rise up to 12 degrees in the north, 10 degrees in the interior, and 8 degrees in the rest of the state by 2050.

A single snowfall of maybe an inch more than has been recorded on that day of the year before is far less significant than what it happening with the glaciers.

Yeah.............but what about the hundreds of glaciers that are growing??????? Oh that's right................sorry........they don't count!:2up: What was I thinking?:eusa_dance::eusa_dance:
 
Skook is now raving that it snowed in Alaska. Looks like his cult is seriously desperate for anything to deflect from their total failure in the scientific world.

A non-tard, of course, would ask what the temperature was. And the answer would be "not that cold". Global warming doesn't mean below-freezing days will stop all across the globe. Warmer cold air holds more moisture, and can produce more snowfall.


But the "tard" is winning!! This kind of stuff is just gravy........when people all across the country freeze their balls off from October to May, it crushes the narrative of the emotional hemophiliacs who's heads explode when the sea level rises by 1 millimeter and they take to the internet claiming the climate is fcuked. Its called common sense and exactly why President Trump can screw the UN and the EPA with the stroke of a pen........because he can. The people are unimpressed with climate science after 20 years of the best bomb throwing the world has ever seen.

I'll take being a "tard" any day!!!:deal:
 

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