Clinton Really? Did she just say that? What was she thinking?

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    I just clicked over to CNN to see a clip of Hillary Clinton speaking. She said, "America is great because America is good, and we have to make that true." That's truly what she said. Did she have too many cocktails in the "green room?" I'm not used to hearing her make such incoherently inane remarks.
     
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    Does not seem to be much comment on this post, so I will ask a question unrelated to the OP's intent. Concerning my post WTF! to which you commented, as I am silver and you are gold, may we post directly to one another and if so, and both parties are willing, how the heck is it done? I know you have that privy but doubt that I do as silver!?! Perhaps a moderator, currently moderating would care to weigh in?
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if she was drunk. Her drinking habits have people thinking she's an alcoholic.
     
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    What about her statement confuses you?
     
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    You didn't catch it? :badgrin:
     
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    Are you a Hillary supporter, Camp?
     
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    She probably didn't have the ear piece that time
     
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    Really? Okay, I'll explain.
    • If America is great, then making that be so has already happened; we don't need to make so that which already is so.
    • "America is great because it is good" is illogical for multiple reasons:
      • Circular: It's great because it's good, which, by implication, makes it great.
      • Affirming the Consequent: Though her remark isn't presented in the textbook "if-then" form, it's substance is that of "If P, then Q. Q. Therefore P." All she's done is discard the the conditional via the modus ponens technique which allows one to say the same thing without the "if-then."
    Mrs. Clinton is a lawyer, which means she's well aware of what is a logically fallacious statement is. Why she'd make a statement as blatantly irrational as the one noted in the OP is surprising. Maybe she wasn't thinking about what she was saying? Maybe she thought nobody in the audience would notice? I don't know. I just know I was listening and I noticed the absurdity of the statement.
     
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    You really shouldn't have bothered. If camp didn't catch it in the OP, I seriously doubt he/she will appreciate the humor. Just saying. :)
     
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    No, but I see her as the lesser of two evils. I would have supported Kasich but my preference would have been Huntsman. I interpreted her statement to mean that confirming America as good means always doing the right thing and confirming our goodness. A good baseball pitcher has to confirm he is a good pitcher to keep that status. Once his pitching begins to fail he becomes a used to be good pitcher.
     

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