Reality: Israel and Demographics

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    Had the impression that Israel is a tiny little nation in a precarious position, and that it will always require the protection of the United States?

    Take a gander at this, from the Asia Times:


    1. "...fresh from the just-released update of the United Nations' population forecasts: At constant fertility, Israel will have more young people by the end of this century than either Turkey or Iran, and more than German, Italy or Spain.

    2. With a total fertility rate of three children per woman, Israel's total
    population will rise to 24 million by the end of the present century. Iran's fertility is around 1.7 and falling, while the fertility for ethnic Turks is only 1.5 (the Kurdish minority has a fertility rate of around 4.5).



    3. ... if present trends continue, Israel will be able to field the largest land army in the Middle East. That startling data point, though, should alert analysts to a more relevant problem: among the military powers in the Middle East, Israel will be the only one with a viable population structure by the middle of this century.

    4. ...it is in America's interest to keep Israel as an ally. Israel is not only the strongest power in the region; in a generation or two it will be the only power in the region,...

    a. The demographic time bomb in the region is not the Palestinian Arabs on the West Bank, as the Israeli peace party wrongly believed, but rather Israel itself....



    5. Israelis love children and have lots of them because they are happy, optimistic and prosperous. Most of Israel's population increase comes from so-called "secular" Israelis, who have 2.6 children on average, more than any other people in the industrial world. The ultra-Orthodox have seven or eight, bringing total fertility to three children....Europeans, Turks and Iranians, by contrast, have very few children because they are grumpy, alienated and pessimistic.

    6. ... this makes Israel's present position dangerous, for its enemies understand that they have a very brief window in which to encircle the Jewish superpower. The collapse of Egypt and possibly that of Syria shortens this window. Nothing short of American support for a unilateral declaration of a Palestinian state on the 1949 armistice lines followed by economic sanctions against Israel, though, is likely to make a difference, and this seems unlikely.




    7. Of the million Russians who moved to Israel during the 1980s and 1990s, more than 55 percent had post-secondary education, and more than half held academic and managerial positions in their former country ... This made Israel the world leader in the scientist and engineer workforce, followed by the United States with 80 and Germany with 55 scientists and engineers per 10,000 members of its labor force.

    8. In the constant fertility scenario, Israel will end the century at a median age of 32, while Poland will have a median age of 57. That is an inherently impossible outcome, because in that case most of Poland's population would be elderly dependents. To support them, the remaining young people would have to emigrate and work overseas (perhaps in Israel).

    9. The Muslim world, meanwhile, is turning grey at an unprecedented rate. Turkey's and Iran's median age will surpass the 40-year mark by mid-century, assuming constant fertility, while Israel's will stabilize in the mid-30s. Europe will become an impoverished geriatric ward.

    a. "If we continue the existing trend, 2038 will mark disaster for us," Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan warned in May 2010 (see The heart of TurknessAsia Times Online, March 23, 2011).

    b. What happens to Egypt and Syria in this scenario is of small importance. Neither country will come out of the present crisis in any condition to fight,...By the end of this year, tourists on the Greek islands may see thousands of small boats carrying hungry Egyptians seeking help. Europe's sympathy for the Arab side may vanish under an inundation of refugees.



    10. The sort of economic and demographic imbalances implied by the projections shown above reflect back into the present. Chaos in Egypt, Syria and other Arab countries probably will pre-empt the present focus on Israel and the Palestinians. It would not be surprising if the Palestinians were to mount another Intifada, or Egypt and Syria were to initiate one last war against Israel. It might be their last opportunity. "
    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ME24Ak01.html?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4dda87ae1e1e5d42,0
     
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    Israel is rising, the Jew Haters will piss themselves reading this article.
     
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    The more orthodox the Jew, the more children they have. Israel will transform from a secular society to a jewish society, given current trends.

    Israel is a welfare queen, so it should be expected for Israel's women to have lots of babies.
     
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    Seems that polichic like Israel but not her policies.
    1.Israel is the worlds leading solar power developer(90%0 of homes use it and it is govt. subsidized), repubs think it is a waste of time.
    2. Israel has socialized medicine, repubs hate that idea.
    3. Israel respects religions and does not force it's workers to work on the sabath, not here, not with our republican rich people and their demand workers work 7 days a week.
    4. Israel pays for public education to include college level, repubs are against public education, and public teachers.
    5. Israel is the leader in stem cell research, repubs want to deny the ability to use stem cells in the US.

    I wish repubs were more like the Israelis
    and I beat the Jew average for kids. I had 4 whole children compared to their 2.6 children per each.
     
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    You wish Republicans were socialist ass-wipes on welfare?
     
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    they are, just like you.
     
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    You are such a jealous little queen.
     
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    A KKK queen to be specific. It hates everybody, but the Jews the most.
     
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    She hates Black people alot too but ironically the little slag supports the Arabs and Pals, go figure.
     
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    opposites don't attract here.
     

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