Real Jews denounce Israel, fake Jews support it.

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Real Jews denounce Israel, fake Jews support it.

If such simplistic logic were true we'd have legions of true liberals also denouncing the Democratic Party as a radical socialist hate group, but they are all afraid of having the New Deal Left coming to their house to burn it down.

Hmm, but don't dare the dominant ethnicity funding the Democrats, the Jews who contribute 1/2 of Democrat funding.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Muslims, and also Jews aren't really indigenous Europeans.
Also Ashkenazis aren't really indigenous Middle-Easterners, anymore, either.

Why do they violate Jewish texts, and created a monstrosity of Israel, which brutally occupies Palestine?

Oh now I get it. "Israel occupies Palestine" where indigenous Palestinians were Jews. Not a single Muslim in existence let alone Muslim Palestinians. Shame on those Zionists for their damn peace offerings to Muslim Palestinians, security fence & land concessions only to be thanked with rocket missiles. And who said SobieskiSavedEurope is an imbecile?

Why do Jewish texts, say that man-made modern Israel is a Sin against nature?

Far more Palestinians have been killed, than Israelis in the conflict.

Total Casualties, Arab-Israeli Conflict

I'll be darned. How wrong I was. Now a Pole gives us the most classic case of Palestinian Mentality. Palis attack & kill Israeli's. Israel retaliates & then the Palis & their supporters bitch about how many more dead Palestinians there are than Israeli's. And the Palis just keep doing it over & over again. I think the Pali's need to learn the first law of the hole. When you're already in one --- Stop digging! Heh Heh!

Why do Hasidim Jews more Jewish than you, believe modern Israel is a Sin, exactly?

That statement is self contradictory.
All of Hassidut exists exactly for simple Jews who never had any real chance to study in the first place.
There's no "more Jewish' or "less Jewish" simply because essentially Hassidut sees the simplest Jews as the one with the most potential for heights that no Jew with no sin could ever reach.

Wrong, Hasidim Jews spend their whole lives studying Jewish texts, FAIL.

 

[rylah]

It's apparently a Sin to support man-made Israel, according to many Ultra-Orthodox Jews who study Jewish law the most.

So, why is this forgotten by Zionists?

Ultra-Orthodox & Anti-Zionist | My Jewish Learning

The anti-Zionist world-view of the ultra-Orthodox groups Neturei Karta and Satmar Hasidism perceives Zionism and the establishment of the State of Israel as an anti-messianic act, conceived and born from sin. These groups vigorously deny the very legitimacy of the collective political return to the Holy Land and to Jewish sovereignty. For them, this is the handiwork of humans, violating the Jewish people’s oath of political quietism.

In the words of the (as expounded by Rashi), the people were adjured not to return collectively to the Land of Israel by the exertion of physical force, nor to “rebel against the nations of the world,” nor to “hasten the End.” In short, they were required to wait for the heavenly, complete, miraculous, supernatural, and meta-historical redemption that is totally distinct from the realm of human endeavor. This waiting over two millennia manifests the very essence and singularity of the Jewish people, expressing their faith in divine providence, in the assurance of the prophets, and in messianic destiny.

If you're not Jewish, your opinion on who is really a Jew is worth less than nothing.

Hmm, and yet Satmar Hasidim Jews who from cradle to grave study Jewish texts, and Jewish law, think that modern Israel is a sin.
Now why is that?

Satmar teaching is itself more modern than modern Israel.
And yet they are among the most charitable investors in the nation dwelling in Zion.

But You won't hear that in the news.

Satmar are actually following Jewish texts, Zionists are following genocide mania, and sin.

Now You're just regurgitating meaningless sentences.
Greatest sages of the generation, recognized by all are Zionists, those who initiated the whole movement all were Orthodox and Hassidic rabbis. Both the leaders of Hassidut and Orthodoxy organized themselves waves of immigrations to specifically fulfill the commandments they could not abroad - sow, build and inherit the land.

Basically, there's no way to follow Torah and not be a Zionist.

 

[rylah]

Oh now I get it. "Israel occupies Palestine" where indigenous Palestinians were Jews. Not a single Muslim in existence let alone Muslim Palestinians. Shame on those Zionists for their damn peace offerings to Muslim Palestinians, security fence & land concessions only to be thanked with rocket missiles. And who said SobieskiSavedEurope is an imbecile?

Why do Jewish texts, say that man-made modern Israel is a Sin against nature?

Far more Palestinians have been killed, than Israelis in the conflict.

Total Casualties, Arab-Israeli Conflict

I'll be darned. How wrong I was. Now a Pole gives us the most classic case of Palestinian Mentality. Palis attack & kill Israeli's. Israel retaliates & then the Palis & their supporters bitch about how many more dead Palestinians there are than Israeli's. And the Palis just keep doing it over & over again. I think the Pali's need to learn the first law of the hole. When you're already in one --- Stop digging! Heh Heh!

Why do Hasidim Jews more Jewish than you, believe modern Israel is a Sin, exactly?

That statement is self contradictory.
All of Hassidut exists exactly for simple Jews who never had any real chance to study in the first place.
There's no "more Jewish' or "less Jewish" simply because essentially Hassidut sees the simplest Jews as the one with the most potential for heights that no Jew with no sin could ever reach.

Wrong, Hasidim Jews spend their whole lives studying Jewish texts, FAIL.

Exactly, and vast majority of those who do are Zionists,
in the most true meaning of the word.

 

[Mindful]

Real Jews denounce Israel, fake Jews support it

There is no "real Jews" and "fake Jews", but there are real Nazis. You are one of them.

Fake Jews as in not correctly following their religious texts.

Didn't you read what he said? You are either a Jew, or not a Jew.

There were many who did not follow the religious texts who ended up in the gas chambers.

 

[USAF 2023]

It's apparently a Sin to support man-made Israel, according to many Ultra-Orthodox Jews who study Jewish law the most.

So, why is this forgotten by Zionists?

Ultra-Orthodox & Anti-Zionist | My Jewish Learning

The anti-Zionist world-view of the ultra-Orthodox groups Neturei Karta and Satmar Hasidism perceives Zionism and the establishment of the State of Israel as an anti-messianic act, conceived and born from sin. These groups vigorously deny the very legitimacy of the collective political return to the Holy Land and to Jewish sovereignty. For them, this is the handiwork of humans, violating the Jewish people’s oath of political quietism.

In the words of the (as expounded by Rashi), the people were adjured not to return collectively to the Land of Israel by the exertion of physical force, nor to “rebel against the nations of the world,” nor to “hasten the End.” In short, they were required to wait for the heavenly, complete, miraculous, supernatural, and meta-historical redemption that is totally distinct from the realm of human endeavor. This waiting over two millennia manifests the very essence and singularity of the Jewish people, expressing their faith in divine providence, in the assurance of the prophets, and in messianic destiny.

Why Orthodox Jews Oppose Israel

This is the reason why the Hasidim don't support it. Ironically, they are not denying the Jewish History You are too much of a Moron to understand it. Now, be a good Pollack and play with your matches

 

[USAF 2023]

It's apparently a Sin to support man-made Israel, according to many Ultra-Orthodox Jews who study Jewish law the most.

So, why is this forgotten by Zionists?

Ultra-Orthodox & Anti-Zionist | My Jewish Learning

The anti-Zionist world-view of the ultra-Orthodox groups Neturei Karta and Satmar Hasidism perceives Zionism and the establishment of the State of Israel as an anti-messianic act, conceived and born from sin. These groups vigorously deny the very legitimacy of the collective political return to the Holy Land and to Jewish sovereignty. For them, this is the handiwork of humans, violating the Jewish people’s oath of political quietism.

In the words of the (as expounded by Rashi), the people were adjured not to return collectively to the Land of Israel by the exertion of physical force, nor to “rebel against the nations of the world,” nor to “hasten the End.” In short, they were required to wait for the heavenly, complete, miraculous, supernatural, and meta-historical redemption that is totally distinct from the realm of human endeavor. This waiting over two millennia manifests the very essence and singularity of the Jewish people, expressing their faith in divine providence, in the assurance of the prophets, and in messianic destiny.

You are so funny. Sobieski was a bigot who hated Muslims, killed many of them & rid Muslims from Europe. Please post more often. So little left for us to laugh at these days.

Poland’s King Jan Sobieski Is Remembered during President Trump Visit « Limits to Growth

Muslims, and also Jews aren't really indigenous Europeans.
Also Ashkenazis aren't really indigenous Middle-Easterners, anymore, either.

Why do they violate Jewish texts, and created a monstrosity of Israel, which brutally occupies Palestine?

Oh now I get it. "Israel occupies Palestine" where indigenous Palestinians were Jews. Not a single Muslim in existence let alone Muslim Palestinians. Shame on those Zionists for their damn peace offerings to Muslim Palestinians, security fence & land concessions only to be thanked with rocket missiles. And who said SobieskiSavedEurope is an imbecile?

He’s not an imbecile. He’s a Pollack imbecile

 

[member]

It's apparently a Sin to support man-made Israel, according to many Ultra-Orthodox Jews who study Jewish law the most.

So, why is this forgotten by Zionists?

Ultra-Orthodox & Anti-Zionist | My Jewish Learning

The anti-Zionist world-view of the ultra-Orthodox groups Neturei Karta and Satmar Hasidism perceives Zionism and the establishment of the State of Israel as an anti-messianic act, conceived and born from sin. These groups vigorously deny the very legitimacy of the collective political return to the Holy Land and to Jewish sovereignty. For them, this is the handiwork of humans, violating the Jewish people’s oath of political quietism.

In the words of the (as expounded by Rashi), the people were adjured not to return collectively to the Land of Israel by the exertion of physical force, nor to “rebel against the nations of the world,” nor to “hasten the End.” In short, they were required to wait for the heavenly, complete, miraculous, supernatural, and meta-historical redemption that is totally distinct from the realm of human endeavor. This waiting over two millennia manifests the very essence and singularity of the Jewish people, expressing their faith in divine providence, in the assurance of the prophets, and in messianic destiny.

You are so funny. Sobieski was a bigot who hated Muslims, killed many of them & rid Muslims from Europe. Please post more often. So little left for us to laugh at these days.

Poland’s King Jan Sobieski Is Remembered during President Trump Visit « Limits to Growth

"Please post more often. So little left for us to laugh at these days."










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