Real Death Panels right now

[AllieBaba]

And what you're saying is that we need to eliminate all the old, weak, and defective.

Got it.

It's amazing how much his posts sound like Nazi propaganda.

It's amazing how many of Elvis's posts sound like someone in the closet, trolling.

Deny him closet space and medical care, and take his money! That should show him; if it doesn't sterilize him and lock him up!

 

[Old Rocks]

I do think that sterilizing ol' Elvis would be a waste of effort. You take his money, I have enough of my own. And it is Willow's closet, not mine

 

[Old Rocks]

Democrats would enable your doctor to be paid to advise you on end of life arrangements. The present Republicans in power would just kill you. That is what the OP demonstrates.

 

[jgarden]

Gap in Life Expectancy Widens for the Nation
New York Times
March 23, 2008

WASHINGTON — New government research has found “large and growing” disparities in life expectancy for richer and poorer Americans, paralleling the growth of income inequality in the last two decades.

Growing Disparities Life expectancy for the nation as a whole has increased, the researchers said, but affluent people have experienced greater gains, and this, in turn, has caused a widening gap.

..... The gaps have been increasing despite efforts by the federal government to reduce them. One of the top goals of “Healthy People 2010,” an official statement of national health objectives issued in 2000, is to “eliminate health disparities among different segments of the population,” including higher- and lower-income groups and people of different racial and ethnic background.

..... In 1980-82, Dr. Singh said, people in the most affluent group could expect to live 2.8 years longer than people in the most deprived group (75.8 versus 73 years). By 1998-2000, the difference in life expectancy had increased to 4.5 years (79.2 versus 74.7 years), and it continues to grow, he said.

After 20 years, the lowest socioeconomic group lagged further behind the most affluent, Dr. Singh said, noting that “life expectancy was higher for the most affluent in 1980 than for the most deprived group in 2000.”

“If you look at the extremes in 2000,” Dr. Singh said, “men in the most deprived counties had 10 years’ shorter life expectancy than women in the most affluent counties (71.5 years versus 81.3 years).” The difference between poor black men and affluent white women was more than 14 years (66.9 years vs. 81.1 years).

The Democratic candidates for president, Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois, have championed legislation to reduce such disparities, as have some Republicans, like Senator Thad Cochran of Mississippi.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/us/23health.html

In an America where money has always "trumped" medical need, access to healthcare has been "rationed" - based on the "almighty dollar!"

It would appear that those with a vested interest don't want to change to a criteria where "quality care" is not determined by the size of one's bank account - thus the reoccuring "Death Panel" allegations coming from conservative quarters!

The fact that life expectancies between rich and poor, in America, have actually increased in recent decades speaks to the fact that some form of "Death Panels," based exclusively on one's ability to pay, already exist!

 

[RDD_1210]

It's the same shit. Nazi, commie...it's all the same shit.

Actually there not anywhere close to the same thing but that doesn't stop the uneducated masses from using these and the many other "isms" interchangeably. Don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

 

[Trajan]

Democrats would enable your doctor to be paid to advise you on end of life arrangements. The present Republicans in power would just kill you. That is what the OP demonstrates.

then why did they pull the regualtion again?

and wanna take a shot at this question?



do you agree or disagree-

there is only so much access and care available?
In that we don't have the resources to give everyone everything in the medical arena?

agree?
disagree?

 

[Trajan]

Democrats would enable your doctor to be paid to advise you on end of life arrangements. The present Republicans in power would just kill you. That is what the OP demonstrates.

then why did they pull the regualtion again?

and wanna take a shot at this question?



do you agree or disagree-

there is only so much access and care available?
In that we don't have the resources to give everyone everything in the medical arena?

agree?
disagree?

and there we are.