Reagan on the unions

[The T]

FDR saw the pitfalls of collective bargaining power of public sector employees, too, and was against it.

SNIP:

Franklin Delano Roosevelt is a hero of the American left, and vilified by the American right. With his massive government spending, government expansion, and entitlement programs, he brought America into its current progressive era of big government and enormous tax rates for the “rich.”

However, it may surprise many readers to learn that FDR was staunchly opposed to collective bargaining rights for public sector workers.Why you ask? The reasons are simple --- When private sector workers strike, the do so for a larger share of company profits. When public workers strike, they do so for larger shares of tax revenues. In other words, they strike against taxpayers.

Another reason is the inherent corruption in collective bargaining for public sector workers. The moral trap is obvious; politicians will promise public unions sweetheart deals (that are fiscally unsustainable) in exchange for votes and campaign donations (paid with union dues).

The fact that these sweetheart deals are commonplace is proven when comparing federal worker pay in the USA to that pay earned by private sector workers.

Was FDR really against the alleged

FDR also didn't want blacks to have access to government programs.

And this is relevant...why, exactly?

It's relevant because folks like you still hold him up as your standards bearer...

 

[The T]

However even FDR was against Public Sector Unions...

 

[Dot Com]

You claimed Reagan was only speaking in the context of a Communist regime, something you believe the Obama administration to be.

I can't be held accountable for you stupidity and hypocrisy.

That's correct...and what was Reagan fighting against? WHAT was his FOCUS...? (Gee there's that word again).

He was fighting against the very thing you claim Obama IS - communists...and he saw the importance of unions in that fight.

I'm sure even you can piece together the logic here, Thomas.

Very good analogy. They prolly use that term on the Faux Network @ 20X/hr. Q: how many networks are there for our resident righties? A: one LOL

 

[The T]

FDR saw the pitfalls of collective bargaining power of public sector employees, too, and was against it.

SNIP:

Franklin Delano Roosevelt is a hero of the American left, and vilified by the American right. With his massive government spending, government expansion, and entitlement programs, he brought America into its current progressive era of big government and enormous tax rates for the “rich.”

However, it may surprise many readers to learn that FDR was staunchly opposed to collective bargaining rights for public sector workers.Why you ask? The reasons are simple --- When private sector workers strike, the do so for a larger share of company profits. When public workers strike, they do so for larger shares of tax revenues. In other words, they strike against taxpayers.

Another reason is the inherent corruption in collective bargaining for public sector workers. The moral trap is obvious; politicians will promise public unions sweetheart deals (that are fiscally unsustainable) in exchange for votes and campaign donations (paid with union dues).

The fact that these sweetheart deals are commonplace is proven when comparing federal worker pay in the USA to that pay earned by private sector workers.

Was FDR really against the alleged

FDR also didn't want blacks to have access to government programs.

And this is relevant...why, exactly?

Nice of you to show the RASCIST side of FDR...the Statist hero...I wonder how that will sit with Blacks regarding YOU>?

You know? You really don't think these things through to ramifications, do you?

Just post bullsqueeze, and RUN.

 

[The T]

That's correct...and what was Reagan fighting against? WHAT was his FOCUS...? (Gee there's that word again).

He was fighting against the very thing you claim Obama IS - communists...and he saw the importance of unions in that fight.

I'm sure even you can piece together the logic here, Thomas.

Very good analogy. They prolly use that term on the Faux Network @ 20X/hr. Q: how many networks are there for our resident righties? A: one LOL

You wouldn't know a good analogy if it bit you in your ass newby.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Public sector employees should NEVER be able to collectively bargain because it leaves us (the tax paying employer) out of the equation.... THAT REAGAN NEVER ENDORSED!

There's nothing wrong with public sector employees bargaining collectively as long as the elected officials that they bargain with are given a message that they work for the tax payers and not for those who lobby for either labor OR industry.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater - elect leaders instead of politicians.

The problem is not unionization per se, the problem is the short-sighted, limp-dick son's-o'-bitches we've had negotiating for the tax payers.

Another option is to let teachers bill the system like doctors on a per child / per procedure basis from private facilities.

Fat chance Joe.... fat chance!
Those son of a bitches always end up siding with their pocketbooks, and to Hell with the tax payers they represent. How the FUCK do you think we got where we are now?


Oh..... "I can just as easily say \"Fuck you!\" with positive rep."

Why not? It took a few years but folks in LOTS different countries are taking their governments back from their Conservative Dick-Taters.

Are Americans a bunch of pussies who can't take their government back from the aristocracy like the Egyptians?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

There's nothing wrong with public sector employees bargaining collectively as long as the elected officials that they bargain with are given a message that they work for the tax payers and not for those who lobby for either labor OR industry.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater - elect leaders instead of politicians.

The problem is not unionization per se, the problem is the short-sighted, limp-dick son's-o'-bitches we've had negotiating for the tax payers.

Another option is to let teachers bill the system like doctors on a per child / per procedure basis from private facilities.

Fat chance Joe.... fat chance!
Those son of a bitches always end up siding with their pocketbooks, and to Hell with the tax payers they represent. How the FUCK do you think we got where we are now?


Oh..... "I can just as easily say \"Fuck you!\" with positive rep."

Why not? It took a few years but folks in LOTS different countries are taking their governments back from their Conservative Dick-Taters.

Are Americans a bunch of pussies who can't take their government back from the aristocracy like the Egyptians?

We're taking the country back from the Progressive Nanny-Staters who are slowly running it into the ground. At some point in the not too distant future you'll have to start taking care of yourself.

Deal with it.

 

[8537]

FDR saw the pitfalls of collective bargaining power of public sector employees, too, and was against it.

SNIP:

Franklin Delano Roosevelt is a hero of the American left, and vilified by the American right. With his massive government spending, government expansion, and entitlement programs, he brought America into its current progressive era of big government and enormous tax rates for the “rich.”

However, it may surprise many readers to learn that FDR was staunchly opposed to collective bargaining rights for public sector workers.Why you ask? The reasons are simple --- When private sector workers strike, the do so for a larger share of company profits. When public workers strike, they do so for larger shares of tax revenues. In other words, they strike against taxpayers.

Another reason is the inherent corruption in collective bargaining for public sector workers. The moral trap is obvious; politicians will promise public unions sweetheart deals (that are fiscally unsustainable) in exchange for votes and campaign donations (paid with union dues).

The fact that these sweetheart deals are commonplace is proven when comparing federal worker pay in the USA to that pay earned by private sector workers.

Was FDR really against the alleged

FDR also didn't want blacks to have access to government programs.

And this is relevant...why, exactly?

It's relevant because folks like you still hold him up as your standards bearer...

Just because he had some good ideas doesn't mean all of his ideas were good.

Only in Tommy's little simpleton kindergarten class is that the case.

 

[8537]

Nice of you to show the RASCIST side of FDR...the Statist hero...I wonder how that will sit with Blacks regarding YOU>?

You know? You really don't think these things through to ramifications, do you?

Just post bullsqueeze, and RUN.

You know Tommy, most blacks are smart enough to separate what FDR did in 1933 from what LBJ did in 1965 from what Clinton did in 1999.

You, on the other hand, believe only what Rush and Sean tell you to believe.