Reagan and His Meeting With The Taliban and Mujahideen

[traveler52]

Even the Ronnie god praised Taliban.

http://www.politicalinquirer.com/2007/12/31/ronald-reagan-meeting-with-talibanal-qaedamujahideen.

The Great ronnie god praised the taliban and al-qaeda.

 

[topspin]

gotta love it, conservatard's heads exploding now.

 

[traveler52]

This is one thing the Repugs, ConJobs and Tea Baggers ignore. The Great Rectum God created Usama and the Taliban.

Facts get in the way of their very limted ablility to think for themselves.

 

[Londoner]

1953 - Operation Ajax: the U.S. gets rid of the popular, democratically elected Mosaddegh. Puts the brutal Shaw in power.

Why? The Shaw promised to be responsive to western energy needs.

1979 - The Iranian Revolution: Iran revolts against brutal western puppet, i.e., bye bye Shaw, hello Khomeini. America loses Iran, whose growing anti-American power becomes a deep threat.

1981 - Hussein: Reagan's guy. Reagan, needing an ally in the region, decides to support a truly brutal monster -- Saddam Hussein.

1982 - Reagan Removes Iraq from list of Terrorist Nations. This is on the public record. Reagan proceeds to pour unprecedented money and weapons into Iraq.

1983 - State Department reports that Iraq continues to support terrorist groups. Reagan support unwavering. Reagan secretly allowed Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt, to transfer US weapons to Iraq; Reagan also asked the Italian prime minister to channel arms to Iraq

December, 1983: Donald Rumsfeld pays visit to Saddam Hussein in Baghdad as Reagan's envoy.

In September of 1988, Reagan prevented the Senate from putting sanctions on Iraq for its violation of the Geneva Protocol on Chemical Weapons.

Iran Contra anybody? Reagan had is hands on terrorist groups from the middle east to south america. In order to fight a deeply weakened soviet state, he made terrorists more powerful all over the globe.

(Does Sean Hannity talk about America's Cold War alliances? How is it possible that America has raised a generation of Conservative cheerleaders who don't know history.)

 

[The Infidel]

picking on a dead guy?


really?


You guys are really imploding, and it is soooooooo fun to watch

 

[Political Junky]

Even the Ronnie god praised Taliban.

Ronald Reagan meeting with Taliban\al-Qaeda\Mujahideen The Political Inquirer.

The Great ronnie god praised the taliban and al-qaeda.

Oh my, then there was Iran/Contra.

 

[DiveCon]

Even the Ronnie god praised Taliban.

Ronald Reagan meeting with Taliban\al-Qaeda\Mujahideen The Political Inquirer.

The Great ronnie god praised the taliban and al-qaeda.

what a load of BULLSHIT
that wasnt Taliban nor Al Qaeda
that was members of what became the Northern Alliance

as if the Taliban would have had WOMEN as members
man you asswipes just want to smear a good mans name just for politics

 

[The Infidel]

Even the Ronnie god praised Taliban.

Ronald Reagan meeting with Taliban\al-Qaeda\Mujahideen The Political Inquirer.

The Great ronnie god praised the taliban and al-qaeda.

what a load of BULLSHIT
that wasnt Taliban nor Al Qaeda
that was members of what became the Northern Alliance

as if the Taliban would have had WOMEN as members
man you asswipes just want to smear a good mans name just for politics

Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Kalam]

Even the Ronnie god praised Taliban.

Ronald Reagan meeting with Taliban\al-Qaeda\Mujahideen The Political Inquirer.

The Great ronnie god praised the taliban and al-qaeda.

what a load of BULLSHIT
that wasnt Taliban nor Al Qaeda
that was members of what became the Northern Alliance

as if the Taliban would have had WOMEN as members
man you asswipes just want to smear a good mans name just for politics

The Northern Alliance are often just as bad as the Taliban. Also, much of the covert funding from the US ended up in the hands of this man, who is now considered a "global terrorist":

BBC News - Profile: Gulbuddin Hekmatyar

 

[Modbert]

Ronald Reagan and the CIA helped to create many of the enemies we're fighting today, but you won't see that in the so called "Liberal" history books.

 

[DiveCon]

Even the Ronnie god praised Taliban.

Ronald Reagan meeting with Taliban\al-Qaeda\Mujahideen The Political Inquirer.

The Great ronnie god praised the taliban and al-qaeda.

what a load of BULLSHIT
that wasnt Taliban nor Al Qaeda
that was members of what became the Northern Alliance

as if the Taliban would have had WOMEN as members
man you asswipes just want to smear a good mans name just for politics

The Northern Alliance are often just as bad as the Taliban. Also, much of the covert funding from the US ended up in the hands of this man, who is now considered a "global terrorist":

BBC News - Profile: Gulbuddin Hekmatyar

first off, the Taliban didnt even exist when Reagan was President
and second, it is well known that some of the northern alliance did change sides several times

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Ronald Reagan and the CIA helped to create many of the enemies we're fighting today, but you won't see that in the so called "Liberal" history books.

Evidence?

 

[Kalam]

first off, the Taliban didnt even exist when Reagan was President
and second, it is well known that some of the northern alliance did change sides several times

I didn't say anything about the Taliban.

 

[Kalam]

Ronald Reagan and the CIA helped to create many of the enemies we're fighting today, but you won't see that in the so called "Liberal" history books.

Evidence?

Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Hizb-i-Islami, etc.

 

[Modbert]

Evidence?

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Some 1,000 Stingers were supplied to the mujahideen from 1986 onwards after Ronald Reagan overcame CIA objections that they were too dangerous to be given to the rebels. MI6 used SAS troops to train the Afghans in the use of the missiles

The CIA gave weapons, training, and intelligence to Afghani "Freedom fighters" who became what is today known as the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

Go look up the name Gulbuddin Hekmatyar while you're at it.

By 1988, Osama Bin Laden had created Al Qaeda with the U.S's knowledge. They were too short sighted and didn't look to the future.

Norm Dixon: How Reagan Armed Saddam with Chemical Weapons

While the August 18 NYT article added new details about the extent of US military collaboration with Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein during Iraq's 1980-88 war with Iran, it omitted the most outrageous aspect of the scandal: not only did Ronald Reagan's Washington turn a blind-eye to the Hussein regime's repeated use of chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers and Iraq's Kurdish minority, but the US helped Iraq develop its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs.

1982, we gave billions to Saddam in weapons and cash to go and kill Iranians. By 1983, we had given Iran weapons to kill Iraqis. Y'know, Iran-Contra.

Heck, when Saddam invaded Kuwait in the early 90's, he was using the weapons we gave him.

Also, in 1953, the CIA overthrew the Prime Minister of Iran and installed the Shah who was one of the most brutal dictators in the future. Heck, that's the whole reason why they took hostages in 1979 and why they hate us today. Along with the fact that we gave the Iraqis weapons to kill them in the 80's.

CIA has a term for this, it's called blowback.

 

[DiveCon]

Evidence?

Taliban still have Reagan's Stingers - Telegraph

Some 1,000 Stingers were supplied to the mujahideen from 1986 onwards after Ronald Reagan overcame CIA objections that they were too dangerous to be given to the rebels. MI6 used SAS troops to train the Afghans in the use of the missiles

The CIA gave weapons, training, and intelligence to Afghani "Freedom fighters" who became what is today known as the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.

Go look up the name Gulbuddin Hekmatyar while you're at it.

By 1988, Osama Bin Laden had created Al Qaeda with the U.S's knowledge. They were too short sighted and didn't look to the future.

Norm Dixon: How Reagan Armed Saddam with Chemical Weapons

While the August 18 NYT article added new details about the extent of US military collaboration with Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein during Iraq's 1980-88 war with Iran, it omitted the most outrageous aspect of the scandal: not only did Ronald Reagan's Washington turn a blind-eye to the Hussein regime's repeated use of chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers and Iraq's Kurdish minority, but the US helped Iraq develop its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs.

1982, we gave billions to Saddam in weapons and cash to go and kill Iranians. By 1983, we had given Iran weapons to kill Iraqis. Y'know, Iran-Contra.

Heck, when Saddam invaded Kuwait in the early 90's, he was using the weapons we gave him.

Also, in 1953, the CIA overthrew the Prime Minister of Iran and installed the Shah who was one of the most brutal dictators in the future. Heck, that's the whole reason why they took hostages in 1979 and why they hate us today. Along with the fact that we gave the Iraqis weapons to kill them in the 80's.

CIA has a term for this, it's called blowback.

there is so much wrong in that i'm not gonna even bother

 

[Modbert]

there is so much wrong in that i'm not gonna even bother

Except there isn't. Maybe it contradicts a lot of what you hold true, but what I posted are facts. Or are you gonna deny we overthrew Iran's PM, or maybe deny Iran-Contra? Or maybe deny that we ever gave Saddam weapons? Go ahead, amuse me Dive.

 

[DiveCon]

there is so much wrong in that i'm not gonna even bother

Except there isn't. Maybe it contradicts a lot of what you hold true, but what I posted are facts. Or are you gonna deny we overthrew Iran's PM, or maybe deny Iran-Contra? Or maybe deny that we ever gave Saddam weapons? Go ahead, amuse me Dive.

we did not over throw Irans PM, look up and read Op Ajax
educate yourself
and i dont mean read bullshit blogs that talk about it, i mean read the ACTUAL documents

 

[edthecynic]

what a load of BULLSHIT
that wasnt Taliban nor Al Qaeda
that was members of what became the Northern Alliance

as if the Taliban would have had WOMEN as members
man you asswipes just want to smear a good mans name just for politics

The Northern Alliance are often just as bad as the Taliban. Also, much of the covert funding from the US ended up in the hands of this man, who is now considered a "global terrorist":

BBC News - Profile: Gulbuddin Hekmatyar

first off, the Taliban didnt even exist when Reagan was President
and second, it is well known that some of the northern alliance did change sides several times

Sure

St Ronnie armed BOTH attackers of the WTC and therefore will always be known as 9/11 Reagan because he OWNS 9/11. 9/11 was the Reagan Doctrine's chickens coming home to roost.

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It was called the Reagan Doctrine. In the eyes of Reagan officials bent on rolling back the Reds everywhere, Afghanistan exemplified the phrase "communist domination." By the time the Russians pulled out of Afghanistan in 1989, the U.S government had lavished $3 billion in arms on the rebels, who, during the bloodiest days of the war, were downing an average of one Russian helicopter gunship per day.

"These weren’t American weapons," said Rohrabacher. "By and large, it was done with Russian equipment bought from Egypt or one of the other states that was once allied with Russia but was now friendly to us. About the only American weapons they had were the Stinger missiles."...

... the majority of U.S. military-aid recipients were unsavory, even unstable characters. The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), which coordinated the efforts on the ground in Afghanistan, was never very choosy about who got arms.

Roughly half the weapons the CIA supplied went to fundamentalist Afghan leader Gulbeddin Hekmatyar—"one of the most stridently anti-Western of the resistance leaders," according to Mary Ann Weaver’s May 1996 article in The Atlantic Monthly. Another arms customer was the blind Sheikh Omar Abdul-Rahman, later convicted of involvement in the 1993 botched bombing of the World Trade Center. Oh, and Osama bin Laden, the man whom George W. Bush says was behind the Sept. 11 attacks.


During the Afghan war, the Saudis were, as they are today, doing America’s bidding on the world stage. The CIA-at the behest of a White House, Congress and American media completely united in helping the Afghan rebels-was calling the shots. It is a fact Rohrabacher himself has acknowledged in the recent past.

"I witnessed this in the White House when U.S. officials in charge of the military aid program to the mujahideen permitted a large percentage of our assistance to be channeled to the most anti-Western, nondemocratic elements of the mujahideen," said Rohrabacher in an April 14, 1999, official statement on U.S. policy toward Afghanistan.

Rohrabacher saw firsthand evidence to support his claim. In November 1988, having just been elected to Congress, Rohrabacher took off on his first trip to Afghanistan. The anti-Soviet war was still raging as Rohrabacher set off on a five-day hike with an armed mujahideen patrol from Pakistan into eastern Afghanistan.

"We at one point in that march came across a camp of tents," Rohrabacher said of his visit to Jalalabad, then under siege by the Afghan rebels. "I was told at that point I must not speak English for at least another three hours because the people in those tents were Saudi Arabians under a crazy commander named bin Laden and that bin Laden was so crazy that he wanted to kill Americans as much as he wanted to kill Russians."

 

[Flopper]

Reagan's only interest in Afghanistan was to see that the Russians were dealt as humiliating a defeat as we received in Viet Nam. The Americans and the Soviets, having thoroughly used and abused Afghanistan for their Cold War ends, abandoned it completely in the late 80s. Their withdrawal was followed by a civil war in which a million Afghans died. Millions more were disabled, maimed, or orphaned. The only schools operating were the madrassas once funded by the US to mold recruits for the holy war against the Russians. The global recruiting and training infrastructure remained, as did the financial networks and Saudi aid. After the war, the ideologically charged mujahideen didn’t just go home and become baby boomers. They had driven the Soviets out and their victory emboldened them to expand their militant jihad. From this cesspool arose the Taliban and “the forces that carried out the operation we know as 9/11.
2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It was the madrassas schools founded by American that was used to pursue jihad. What Reagan did in Afghanistan in the 80's gave rise to Taliban in the 90's.