Read Obama's Healthcare Speech...

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EXCERPTS OF THE PRESIDENT'S ADDRESS TO A JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS TONIGHT:

I am not the first President to take up this cause, but I am determined to be the last. It has now been nearly a century since Theodore Roosevelt first called for health care reform. And ever since, nearly every President and Congress, whether Democrat or Republican, has attempted to meet this challenge in some way. A bill for comprehensive health reform was first introduced by John Dingell Sr. in 1943. Sixty-five years later, his son continues to introduce that same bill at the beginning of each session.

Our collective failure to meet this challenge – year after year, decade after decade – has led us to a breaking point. Everyone understands the extraordinary hardships that are placed on the uninsured, who live every day just one accident or illness away from bankruptcy. These are not primarily people on welfare. These are middle-class Americans. Some can't get insurance on the job. Others are self-employed, and can't afford it, since buying insurance on your own costs you three times as much as the coverage you get from your employer. Many other Americans who are willing and able to pay are still denied insurance due to previous illnesses or conditions that insurance companies decide are too risky or expensive to cover.


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During that time, we have seen Washington at its best and its worst.

We have seen many in this chamber work tirelessly for the better part of this year to offer thoughtful ideas about how to achieve reform. Of the five committees asked to develop bills, four have completed their work, and the Senate Finance Committee announced today that it will move forward next week. That has never happened before. Our overall efforts have been supported by an unprecedented coalition of doctors and nurses; hospitals, seniors' groups and even drug companies – many of whom opposed reform in the past. And there is agreement in this chamber on about eighty percent of what needs to be done, putting us closer to the goal of reform than we have ever been.

But what we have also seen in these last months is the same partisan spectacle that only hardens the disdain many Americans have toward their own government. Instead of honest debate, we have seen scare tactics. Some have dug into unyielding ideological camps that offer no hope of compromise. Too many have used this as an opportunity to score short-term political points, even if it robs the country of our opportunity to solve a long-term challenge. And out of this blizzard of charges and counter-charges, confusion has reigned.

Well the time for bickering is over. The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action. Now is when we must bring the best ideas of both parties together, and show the American people that we can still do what we were sent here to do. Now is the time to deliver on health care.

The plan I'm announcing tonight would meet three basic goals:

It will provide more security and stability to those who have health insurance. It will provide insurance to those who don't. And it will slow the growth of health care costs for our families, our businesses, and our government. It's a plan that asks everyone to take responsibility for meeting this challenge – not just government and insurance companies, but employers and individuals. And it's a plan that incorporates ideas from Senators and Congressmen; from Democrats and Republicans – and yes, from some of my opponents in both the primary and general election.

***

Here are the details that every American needs to know about this plan:

First, if you are among the hundreds of millions of Americans who already have health insurance through your job, Medicare, Medicaid, or the VA, nothing in this plan will require you or your employer to change the coverage or the doctor you have. Let me repeat this: nothing in our plan requires you to change what you have.

What this plan will do is to make the insurance you have work better for you. Under this plan, it will be against the law for insurance companies to deny you coverage because of a pre-existing condition. As soon as I sign this bill, it will be against the law for insurance companies to drop your coverage when you get sick or water it down when you need it most. They will no longer be able to place some arbitrary cap on the amount of coverage you can receive in a given year or a lifetime. We will place a limit on how much you can be charged for out-of-pocket expenses, because in the United States of America, no one should go broke because they get sick. And insurance companies will be required to cover, with no extra charge, routine checkups and preventive care, like mammograms and colonoscopies – because there's no reason we shouldn't be catching diseases like breast cancer and colon cancer before they get worse. That makes sense, it saves money, and it saves lives.

That's what Americans who have health insurance can expect from this plan – more security and stability.

Now, if you're one of the tens of millions of Americans who don't currently have health insurance, the second part of this plan will finally offer you quality, affordable choices. If you lose your job or change your job, you will be able to get coverage. If you strike out on your own and start a small business, you will be able to get coverage. We will do this by creating a new insurance exchange – a marketplace where individuals and small businesses will be able to shop for health insurance at competitive prices. Insurance companies will have an incentive to participate in this exchange because it lets them compete for millions of new customers. As one big group, these customers will have greater leverage to bargain with the insurance companies for better prices and quality coverage. This is how large companies and government employees get affordable insurance. It's how everyone in this Congress gets affordable insurance. And it's time to give every American the same opportunity that we've given ourselves.

***

This is the plan I'm proposing. It's a plan that incorporates ideas from many of the people in this room tonight – Democrats and Republicans. And I will continue to seek common ground in the weeks ahead. If you come to me with a serious set of proposals, I will be there to listen. My door is always open.

But know this: I will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it's better politics to kill this plan than improve it. I will not stand by while the special interests use the same old tactics to keep things exactly the way they are. If you misrepresent what's in the plan, we will call you out. And I will not accept the status quo as a solution. Not this time. Not now.

Everyone in this room knows what will happen if we do nothing. Our deficit will grow. More families will go bankrupt. More businesses will close. More Americans will lose their coverage when they are sick and need it most. And more will die as a result. We know these things to be true.

That is why we cannot fail. Because there are too many Americans counting on us to succeed – the ones who suffer silently, and the ones who shared their stories with us at town hall meetings, in emails, and in letters.



CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - Obama: ‘If you misrepresent what’s in the plan, we will call you out’ « - Blogs from CNN.com
 
Will he mention "public option"?

These excerpts indicate he is dancing about the issue yet again. Generalized, lofty, yet ultimately empty rhetoric that attempts to sound tough, while actually making him appear even more spineless.

He can make up much in the delivery though - so who knows how it will actually play over.

What we do know is that the strongest opposition to Obama in the last 24 hours has been from Democrats themselves - for Baucus to go public declaring no public option, and then the Black Caucus going public stating if there is no public option they will not support anything else...Obama has momentarily lost control of his own party. Tonight is a test of whether or not he can regain that control - if he ever had it...
 
These excerpts indicate he is dancing about the issue yet again. Generalized, lofty, yet ultimately empty rhetoric that attempts to sound tough, while actually making him appear even more spineless.

He can make up much in the delivery though - so who knows how it will actually play over.

What we do know is that the strongest opposition to Obama in the last 24 hours has been from Democrats themselves - for Baucus to go public declaring no public option, and then the Black Caucus going public stating if there is no public option they will not support anything else...Obama has momentarily lost control of his own party. Tonight is a test of whether or not he can regain that control - if he ever had it...

Correction, you mean Lobbyists. Baucus has received $4 million from the Health Care Industry in recent years, you honestly believe he isn't influenced?
 
These excerpts indicate he is dancing about the issue yet again. Generalized, lofty, yet ultimately empty rhetoric that attempts to sound tough, while actually making him appear even more spineless.

He can make up much in the delivery though - so who knows how it will actually play over.

What we do know is that the strongest opposition to Obama in the last 24 hours has been from Democrats themselves - for Baucus to go public declaring no public option, and then the Black Caucus going public stating if there is no public option they will not support anything else...Obama has momentarily lost control of his own party. Tonight is a test of whether or not he can regain that control - if he ever had it...

Correction, you mean Lobbyists. Baucus has received $4 million from the Health Care Industry in recent years, you honestly believe he isn't influenced?

Your point is valid - but Obama does not set a good example when he calls in pharma for a closed door sweet deal session now does he? That example alone was one of terrible arrogance and weakness from a president who promised the era of lobbyist influence in the White House was over. It is quite likely many within his own party view Obama with increased disdain...
 
Your point is valid - but Obama does not set a good example when he calls in pharma for a closed door sweet deal session now does he? That example alone was one of terrible arrogance and weakness from a president who promised the era of lobbyist influence in the White House was over. It is quite likely many within his own party view Obama with increased disdain...

That's because Obama, Hillary, and McCain were the top three receivers of Health Care Industry Contributions this past cycle. Baucus was #4. Which is why I always find it odd when Republicans are scared of a public option. Obama already told those advocates to basically drop dead.

It is only a further example of how he has moved to the center, and even center right. He was elected on a Liberal platform and is going the complete opposite direction.
 
Your point is valid - but Obama does not set a good example when he calls in pharma for a closed door sweet deal session now does he? That example alone was one of terrible arrogance and weakness from a president who promised the era of lobbyist influence in the White House was over. It is quite likely many within his own party view Obama with increased disdain...

That's because Obama, Hillary, and McCain were the top three receivers of Health Care Industry Contributions this past cycle. Baucus was #4. Which is why I always find it odd when Republicans are scared of a public option. Obama already told those advocates to basically drop dead.

It is only a further example of how he has moved to the center, and even center right. He was elected on a Liberal platform and is going the complete opposite direction.


Your post does not address the deal Obama apparently made with the drug companies.

He is clearly setting the same example of pay to play that plagues the political system. There is nothing new or different about Obama - he is proving more of same, and less than the sum of his parts...
 
Well the time for bickering is over. The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action. Now is when we must bring the best ideas of both parties together, and show the American people that we can still do what we were sent here to do. Now is the time to deliver on health care.

Obama wants bipartisanship?

It sounds like Obama will stake his career on getting some kind of bill passed. Let's just hope it's not another government program that bleeds red ink for decades to come.
 
It looks like more of the same, very few details. I don't think that he knows the details of any of these plans that are circulating. If he doesn't come up with some serious, factual numbers that can be confirmed by the CBO, then his polls will further erode.

Someone needs to remind him that the election is over, he won, it's high time to get out of campaign mode and actually know what's in the bills that he is pressuring everyone to jump onto.
 
Well the time for bickering is over. The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action. Now is when we must bring the best ideas of both parties together, and show the American people that we can still do what we were sent here to do. Now is the time to deliver on health care.

Obama wants bipartisanship?

It sounds like Obama will stake his career on getting some kind of bill passed. Let's just hope it's not another government program that bleeds red ink for decades to come.

Oh you can be assured, that if the government gets ahold of this, you will never see black ink, it will all be red. :lol:
 
Your point is valid - but Obama does not set a good example when he calls in pharma for a closed door sweet deal session now does he? That example alone was one of terrible arrogance and weakness from a president who promised the era of lobbyist influence in the White House was over. It is quite likely many within his own party view Obama with increased disdain...

That's because Obama, Hillary, and McCain were the top three receivers of Health Care Industry Contributions this past cycle. Baucus was #4. Which is why I always find it odd when Republicans are scared of a public option. Obama already told those advocates to basically drop dead.

It is only a further example of how he has moved to the center, and even center right. He was elected on a Liberal platform and is going the complete opposite direction.

What planet have you been living on, " It is only a further example of how he has moved to the center, and even center right. He was elected on a liberal platform and is going to complete opposite directions."

ROTHFLMAO. He was elected on a centrix platform, the american people are center right, there is nothing resembling a moderate in Obama, he is a socialist that leans soooooooo far left that his polling numbers are tanking and he is soooo left he could be considered a marix commie. You gotta be kiddin me. Get real!!!!!:lol::lol:
 
Well the time for bickering is over. The time for games has passed. Now is the season for action. Now is when we must bring the best ideas of both parties together, and show the American people that we can still do what we were sent here to do. Now is the time to deliver on health care.

Obama wants bipartisanship?

It sounds like Obama will stake his career on getting some kind of bill passed. Let's just hope it's not another government program that bleeds red ink for decades to come.

Oh you can be assured, that if the government gets ahold of this, you will never see black ink, it will all be red. :lol:

That's the obvious answer since most government entitlement programs are deeply in the red. I did a google search on 'Medicare Debt' and the numbers are astounding. The same thing for Social Security. The debt is the tens of trillions of dollars. How are we going to sustain this? If the people are willing to approve entitlement programs, that's great, but they cannot bankrupt the country.
 
Looks like "Indoctrination" to me....

I refuse to allow my children to watch
 
I didn't see the speech but there is no mention of the "public option". As a conservative leaning independent I could support a plan that has NO public option. I don't think the government needs a whole new bureaucracy that will drain trillions of dollars from the coffers over the next 20 years.

The public option is just like a wounded sea lion bleeding in the water. It attracts sharks. As our tax dollars bleed out our deficit and national debt will rise and fraud, waste and abuse will take a huge toll just like they do now. The government has been unable to control fraud, waste and abuse of the Medicare/Medicaid system since their inception.
 
It looks like more of the same, very few details. I don't think that he knows the details of any of these plans that are circulating. If he doesn't come up with some serious, factual numbers that can be confirmed by the CBO, then his polls will further erode.

Someone needs to remind him that the election is over, he won, it's high time to get out of campaign mode and actually know what's in the bills that he is pressuring everyone to jump onto.


That is the very same impression I had - he promised details, and yet these excerpts show more generalizations. It reads like a campaign promises speech, not a legislative details speech.

Again, does this president have a clue as to what is going on around him?

Almost show time...
 
Obama wants bipartisanship?

It sounds like Obama will stake his career on getting some kind of bill passed. Let's just hope it's not another government program that bleeds red ink for decades to come.

Oh you can be assured, that if the government gets ahold of this, you will never see black ink, it will all be red. :lol:

That's the obvious answer since most government entitlement programs are deeply in the red. I did a google search on 'Medicare Debt' and the numbers are astounding. The same thing for Social Security. The debt is the tens of trillions of dollars. How are we going to sustain this? If the people are willing to approve entitlement programs, that's great, but they cannot bankrupt the country.

Exactly right. The government "borrows" any surplus money from SS and put's it in the general fund. Under the National Debt this is known as "Intra-governmental Holdings".
 
Oh you can be assured, that if the government gets ahold of this, you will never see black ink, it will all be red. :lol:

That's the obvious answer since most government entitlement programs are deeply in the red. I did a google search on 'Medicare Debt' and the numbers are astounding. The same thing for Social Security. The debt is the tens of trillions of dollars. How are we going to sustain this? If the people are willing to approve entitlement programs, that's great, but they cannot bankrupt the country.

Exactly right. The government "borrows" any surplus money from SS and put's it in the general fund. Under the National Debt this is known as "Intra-governmental Holdings".

That is why those of my generation and younger hold SS with such disdain - we will likely see a pitance of what we have put in...
 
But know this: I will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it's better politics to kill this plan than improve it. I will not stand by while the special interests use the same old tactics to keep things exactly the way they are. If you misrepresent what's in the plan, we will call you out. And I will not accept the status quo as a solution. Not this time. Not now.


Im curious...what "special interests" is he talking about exactly? He's got the AMA on his side. He's got the unions, AARP, trial lawyers, ACORN...the list goes on.

WHO is he talking to? The general public that has held protests? The angry mob? To my knowledge, there AREN'T any special interest groups...only us lowly Americans...the people HE'S supposed to serve. And then there's "THE PLEDGE" that cries out to our youth to 'pledge their service to President Obama'. So now WE'RE supposed to serve HIM???? WTF??? I have no problem serving my country... but I'm not pledging my service to ANY one man in the highest office in the land. If I was up for that, I would have voted for him.
 
But know this: I will not waste time with those who have made the calculation that it's better politics to kill this plan than improve it. I will not stand by while the special interests use the same old tactics to keep things exactly the way they are. If you misrepresent what's in the plan, we will call you out. And I will not accept the status quo as a solution. Not this time. Not now.


Im curious...what "special interests" is he talking about exactly? He's got the AMA on his side. He's got the unions, AARP, trial lawyers, ACORN...the list goes on.

WHO is he talking to? The general public that has held protests? The angry mob? To my knowledge, there AREN'T any special interest groups...only us lowly Americans...the people HE'S supposed to serve. And then there's "THE PLEDGE" that cries out to our youth to 'pledge their service to President Obama'. So now WE'RE supposed to serve HIM???? WTF??? I have no problem serving my country... but I'm not pledging my service to ANY one man in the highest office in the land. If I was up for that, I would have voted for him.



True enough. Hypocrisy is this president's strong suit to be sure...
 

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