Re-stigmatize government assistance?

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    A few of these other discussions got me thinking... again. :eusa_angel:


    I know this is going to sound really harsh, and that's because it is. We've all heard stories about people who ended up there through no fault of their own. But I cannot help thinking that the overall good of society could benefit from re-stigmatizing government assistance. In short, make people feel like worthless shit if they need a handout. Some people already feel that way naturally. But in some circles, it appears that working the system for unneeded handouts is considered normal, accepted and even lauded.

    Do you think it is even possible to re-stigmatize government assistance?

    If so, do you think it would do more good than harm, or vice-versa?
     
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    The Liberals and the Democrats would have nothing to do with that.
     
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    I never knew it was un-stigmatized. What planet are you living on?
     
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    So?

    I'm not talking about passing a law that welfare recipients get deadbeat tatooed on their forehead. I'm talking about changing society's attitudes and leveraging peer-pressure to establish a disincentive to be on the dole.
     
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    Just like we have a sex-offender registry, we should have a registry of all people who receive government funds.

    However, it would be a very large registry, since it would include nearly everyone over the age of 65.
     
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    Well, the nice thing about growing old is you really don't give a shit what people think. So the stigma wouldn't affect the elderly much anyway, which in this case would be a good thing.
     
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    Good, thought-provoking question imho.
    I know that the general move is toward de-stigmatizing EVERYTHING and that is not necessarily a good thing imho.

    But if you've convinced someone that they are a no-good, worthless, POS, drag on society, then how big of a pyschological jump is it for that person to start viewing themself as a VIOLENT, CRIMINAL no-good, worthless, POS, drag on society?

    Or if they are already convinced that they are just a garden-variety, no-good, worthless, POS, drag on society then does that make it harder to rehab that person and help them re-make themselves into a real productive member of society?

    And does the stigma encourage more people to fight harder to keep themselves afloat? How many will it influence? How many will it keep off assistance? How many will be driven deeper into anti-social behavior BECAUSE of the stigma?

    Good questions - I got no answers - but IMHO they are very good questions.
     
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    Social Security shouldn't exist BUT it does. And just about everyone receiving it PAID taxes for years to the fund. Not even close to the same thing as welfare. Everyone that works pays into Medicare as well.
     
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    :cuckoo: Your threads of late have been full of strawmen.

    Welfare recipients have been demonized since the beginning of time.
     

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