Raul Castro: thanks USA but affirms Cuba Communist Rule

[cnm]

But in this case specifically, left over paranoia. It's cute, it keeps them off the streets and prevents a certain amount of wailing and gnashing.

 

[CowboyTed]

I was against obama's latest foolishness. Now I'm warming up to watching him get his ass kicked by two old guys who are 90 miles away.

It will be as amusing as watching president Putin make obungle a bitch.

You mean the Putin who has just got bitch slapped by the massive loss of revenues... Love ye chickenhawks...

 

[CowboyTed]

By the way, here is an interesting article about Cuba:

Cuba A development model that proved the doubters wrong Jonathan Glennie Global development The Guardian

They are far from the perfect model country but better than the other shit holes in Latin America.

 

[FA_Q2]

It does appear that we are "normalizing relations" with a communist nation now. Cuba. Will we be "normalizing relations" with North Korea next? Where does the line get draw? Do we even have a line anymore? The Cuban people must wondering what is going on with America. I'm sure many Americans are too. Something is definitely wrong with this picture.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/21/world/americas/castro-thanks-us-but-affirms-cubas-communist-rule.html?action=click&contentCollection=Americas&region=Footer&module=MoreInSection&pgtype=article
Mr. Castro alternated between conciliatory and combative statements directed at the United States.

He stoked the flames of Cuban nationalism, declaring near the end of his statement, “We won the war.” But he also praised Mr. Obama for starting the biggest change in United States-Cuba policy in more than 50 years.

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“The Cuban people are grateful,” he said, for Mr. Obama’s decision “to remove the obstacles to our relations.”

And? We have strong ties with several nations that are completely counter to our form of government or do not recognize human rights. Why would we keep up this asshattery with Cuba? What are WE gaining out of it?

Nothing.

 

[deltex1]

Why is it our business that cuba is communist?

Why is it our business that ebola is in Liberia?

 

[deltex1]

I doubt that many Cubans are going to think that the US is kowtowing to the Cuban government by this change in policy.

I imagine their hope is the change will bring them freedom and prosperity. Can you name a communist country with those benefits?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I doubt that many Cubans are going to think that the US is kowtowing to the Cuban government by this change in policy.

I imagine their hope is the change will bring them freedom and prosperity. Can you name a communist country with those benefits?

Yes. The US. At least according to the RWnuts.

 

[deltex1]

I doubt that many Cubans are going to think that the US is kowtowing to the Cuban government by this change in policy.

I imagine their hope is the change will bring them freedom and prosperity. Can you name a communist country with those benefits?

Yes. The US. At least according to the RWnuts.

Nice try. we have less freedom and prosperity under Obabble. Not sure it's because he's a commie or a moron...a bit of both I suspect.

 

[Contumacious]

It does appear that we are "normalizing relations" with a communist nation now. Cuba..”

It doesn't matter what Cuba practices, the Castro's know that socialism/communism sucks. But is up to the CUBANS to decide what they want to do.


But our businessmen should be able to conduct their business there.

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[Book of Jeremiah]

Nixon normalized relations with China and Clinton normalized relations with Vietnam. What's so special about Cuba? We never even fought a war against them.

True. Which is why I am wondering what does Raul Castro mean when he says, We won the war. Cuba won the war? What war? The war of Communism taking over? Is America now a Communist nation - is that what he means? What say you, Konradv?

 

[Moonglow]

I doubt that many Cubans are going to think that the US is kowtowing to the Cuban government by this change in policy.

I imagine their hope is the change will bring them freedom and prosperity. Can you name a communist country with those benefits?

Yes. The US. At least according to the RWnuts.

Nice try. we have less freedom and prosperity under Obabble. Not sure it's because he's a commie or a moron...a bit of both I suspect.

Depends on who you are,,,some are making profits, but even during Reagan, some suffered while others grew fat...

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

But in this case specifically, left over paranoia. It's cute, it keeps them off the streets and prevents a certain amount of wailing and gnashing.

Off what streets? Did you not say yesterday this is our system not yours? If you live in the UK as you claim - what is it to you what America does or does not do? It simply isn't your business because these are not your streets. You take care of your own streets, Cnm. It should keep you busy for the next millenium as I hear your crime rate is higher than the USA's. Sounds like major trouble over there.

 

[Contumacious]

Nixon normalized relations with China and Clinton normalized relations with Vietnam. What's so special about Cuba? We never even fought a war against them.

True. Which is why I am wondering what does Raul Castro mean when he says, We won the war. Cuba won the war? What war? The war of Communism taking over? Is America now a Communist nation - is that what he means? What say you, Konradv?

The US should allow Americans to travel and conduct business with Cuba regardless of who won the war.


But Raul may be onto something - they won the intellectual war since the US is fast moving towards socialism.


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[Book of Jeremiah]

Why is it our business that cuba is communist?

Why is it our business that ebola is in Liberia?

Because it could possibly spread to America? What is the difference between Ebola and Communism? Look at the fruit of both and there is not much difference. The only way to not get infected by it is to keep it out of your country.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Nixon normalized relations with China and Clinton normalized relations with Vietnam. What's so special about Cuba? We never even fought a war against them.

True. Which is why I am wondering what does Raul Castro mean when he says, We won the war. Cuba won the war? What war? The war of Communism taking over? Is America now a Communist nation - is that what he means? What say you, Konradv?

The US should allow Americans to travel and conduct business with Cuba regardless of who won the war.


But Raul may be onto something - they won the intellectual war since the US is fast moving towards socialism.


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Cuba isn't a socialist country. They are a communist country. With that said, you have a point. America is fast moving towards socialism without realizing the disaster that awaits us. imo. Still what was Raul saying? Not that we are moving fast towards socialism because that would not be winning - that we are moving fast towards the day of a communist takeover? Yes. I think perhaps this is what he was talking about.

Do you recall the comment made by Castro - in news media - perhaps a year or so ago - he said America would fall by nuclear attack? He was doing a lot of back and forth with the SA and Russia at the time as I recall. After he made the comment he went silent - possibly Putin told him to be quiet. Not sure why he suddenly went quiet on that one.

 

[deltex1]

I doubt that many Cubans are going to think that the US is kowtowing to the Cuban government by this change in policy.

I imagine their hope is the change will bring them freedom and prosperity. Can you name a communist country with those benefits?

Yes. The US. At least according to the RWnuts.

Nice try. we have less freedom and prosperity under Obabble. Not sure it's because he's a commie or a moron...a bit of both I suspect.

Depends on who you are,,,some are making profits, but even during Reagan, some suffered while others grew fat...

Some will suffer under any form of government...but in a properly regulated capitalistic democracy the onus is mostly on the individual to make good choices.

 

[deltex1]

Nixon normalized relations with China and Clinton normalized relations with Vietnam. What's so special about Cuba? We never even fought a war against them.

True. Which is why I am wondering what does Raul Castro mean when he says, We won the war. Cuba won the war? What war? The war of Communism taking over? Is America now a Communist nation - is that what he means? What say you, Konradv?

The US should allow Americans to travel and conduct business with Cuba regardless of who won the war.


But Raul may be onto something - they won the intellectual war since the US is fast moving towards socialism.


.

We must change direction in 2017...pick your leaders carefully.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Nixon normalized relations with China and Clinton normalized relations with Vietnam. What's so special about Cuba? We never even fought a war against them.

True. Which is why I am wondering what does Raul Castro mean when he says, We won the war. Cuba won the war? What war? The war of Communism taking over? Is America now a Communist nation - is that what he means? What say you, Konradv?

The US should allow Americans to travel and conduct business with Cuba regardless of who won the war.


But Raul may be onto something - they won the intellectual war since the US is fast moving towards socialism.


.

About your comment "intellectual warfare"........
Interesting quote I'd like to give you here...

From a former KGB expert on Subversive techniques - Yuri Bezmenov said this:



The highest arch of warfare is not to fight at all but to subvert anything of value in the country of your enemy until such a time that the perception of reality of your enemy is screwed up to such an extent that he does not perceive you as an enemy and that your system, your civilization (communism) look to your enemy as an alternative. In other words, better red than dead.

___________
Interesting to see where we are today as Yuri said that back in 1983 or thereabouts.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

I doubt that many Cubans are going to think that the US is kowtowing to the Cuban government by this change in policy.

I imagine their hope is the change will bring them freedom and prosperity. Can you name a communist country with those benefits?

Yes. The US. At least according to the RWnuts.

Nice try. we have less freedom and prosperity under Obabble. Not sure it's because he's a commie or a moron...a bit of both I suspect.

Depends on who you are,,,some are making profits, but even during Reagan, some suffered while others grew fat...

Some will suffer under any form of government...but in a properly regulated capitalistic democracy the onus is mostly on the individual to make good choices.

Interesting experiment you should try. Have a friend lie down on the floor while you remain standing and offer him a hand up. He has to pull himself up while you continue to stand. You'll find that you will fall to the floor every time.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Nixon normalized relations with China and Clinton normalized relations with Vietnam. What's so special about Cuba? We never even fought a war against them.

True. Which is why I am wondering what does Raul Castro mean when he says, We won the war. Cuba won the war? What war? The war of Communism taking over? Is America now a Communist nation - is that what he means? What say you, Konradv?

The US should allow Americans to travel and conduct business with Cuba regardless of who won the war.


But Raul may be onto something - they won the intellectual war since the US is fast moving towards socialism.


.

We must change direction in 2017...pick your leaders carefully.

I believe we are past that point now, Deltex. What we can do is - as a people we can choose to change our direction individually and call on Jesus Christ to become our Lord and Savior and to commit our lives to abiding in Him. Then Psalm 91 will become ours and when the day of trouble hits we will be abiding under His Shadow and will fear no evil. That is the individual choice of all Americans at this hour. To call upon the LORD and be saved and live for him or to perish in the upcoming days ahead of America. Our nation is under the judgment of God - I do not believe that will change. I do believe people can be saved still but the nation? No.