Rationing Medicare

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    Let's try this again.

    Is rationing Medicare inevitable? Who do we want making those decisions?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...011/06/03/AGy7l7HH_blog.html?wprss=ezra-klein
     
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    We're not going to have enough providers to go around, not if we add in 30 million new people plus a sizeable portion of our society growing older and needing more care. We just don't have the money, a lot of people are going to be denied access or have to wait for extended periods of time. I predict a lot of people showing up in ERs across the country.
     
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    All medical care is and always has been rationed. That's the idea behind triage and many insurance practices.

    So long as resources are finite and less than we'd need to treat everyone, there are more doctors than patients, and we operate in the real world, there will always be the need to decide how best to use those resources (financial, human, physical, and time) to achieve the most good for the most people. This is simply the reality of how the world works. I'm not saying it's good or right- that's just how it always has been and is likely to remain to the foreseeable future.
     
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    We've never had a bureau of unelected appointees deciding the criteria for who will get what treatment and what the cost will be. I can sue an insurance company, can't do shit against the US Gov't.
     
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    You forgot to post your link documenting that.

    You can sue the government as well; 26 states have done just that.
     
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    Yes, we have. In the insurance companies, someone makes the decision as to whether or not a procedure is covered, which oft determines whether it's performed.

    In the ER, we have the triage system.

    Hospitals have their own boards and bureaucrats to issue standing orders as to how determine how to handle these issues.
    I think you actually can sue the gov't. That's a question for an attourney.
     
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    Your system is rationed.
     
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    If we raise the retirement age, something that should have already been done, many of the problems in financing Medicare would go away. It would put a greater burden on the individual, but that burden would come before retirement, at a time that people could better figure out how to pay for a few more years of private coverage, whether that be privately themselves or through their employer.

    The system was never meant to cover people for 13 to 15 years. Raise the retirement age, and it won't have to.
     
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    Medicare is 3% of GDP. Health Care is nearly 18%. Using "Emergency Rooms" as health care costs this nation untold amounts of money.

    Let's put everyone on Medicare and call it the "public option", then, get rid of Health Care companies. Since Medicare is a measly 3% of GDP, they must be doing something right.
     
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    But you are not seeing the "entertainment" factor. 70 year old police officers. Or two 70 year old medics carrying Gov Christie down two flights of stairs. Couldn't ya just "die"? Hilarious.
     

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