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I am certain that the GOP is prepared to see the country fall into default. I hope he doesn't, but I expect Obama to fold on this one. I guess he, unlike the GOP, will have to consider Country over Political Party.
A default could turn the US into a near 3rd world counrty. The entire world's economy will go down the tubes. All so that the rich in the US can keep their tax breaks.
And to think all that Obama and the sycophants need do is to produce the necessary massive spending cut's to show the American people that really do care about this nation
I am certain that the GOP is prepared to see the country fall into default. I hope he doesn't, but I expect Obama to fold on this one. I guess he, unlike the GOP, will have to consider Country over Political Party.
A default could turn the US into a near 3rd world counrty. The entire world's economy will go down the tubes. All so that the rich in the US can keep their tax breaks.
And to think all that Obama and the sycophants need do is to produce the necessary massive spending cut's to show the American people that really do care about this nation
Spending cuts in the middle of a fragile economic recovery?
Heck..that's worse then raising taxes.
It's simple economics.
I am surprised how quickly the Democrats let the Republicans dominate the discussion with that bullshit.
For 8 years they practiced "deficits don't matter" economics (along with regulations don't matter, enforcement doesn't matter).
They raised the debt ceiling some 19 times during the Bush administration.
NOW, all of a sudden, they care.
Go figure.
This is a negotiation in progress. Both sides like to to do a bit of grandstanding.
Why do you believe that only one side is the source of the problems? Both sides want something.
Republicans are demanding that the Senate pass a budget and that budget contain substantive spending cuts. They aren't getting what they want either, as the Democrats seem to be more interested in grandstanding about how how evil the republicans are than actually bringing a proposal to the table.
From this side, it does seem the Democrats are the one playing Chicken with the economy, as we hear next to nothing about their proposals, only that Republican proposals are bad. Which leads me to understand there are no Democrat proposals other than that the Republicans fold.
I am certain that the GOP is prepared to see the country fall into default. I hope he doesn't, but I expect Obama to fold on this one. I guess he, unlike the GOP, will have to consider Country over Political Party.
A default could turn the US into a near 3rd world counrty. The entire world's economy will go down the tubes. All so that the rich in the US can keep their tax breaks.
And to think all that Obama and the sycophants need do is to produce the necessary massive spending cut's to show the American people that really do care about this nation
Spending cuts in the middle of a fragile economic recovery?
Heck..that's worse then raising taxes.
It's simple economics.
I am surprised how quickly the Democrats let the Republicans dominate the discussion with that bullshit.
For 8 years they practiced "deficits don't matter" economics (along with regulations don't matter, enforcement doesn't matter).
They raised the debt ceiling some 19 times during the Bush administration.
NOW, all of a sudden, they care.
Go figure.
They don't care. The people that elected them care [finally]. And what's a pols #1 job? getting re-elected. why else would big 0 have done 3 times as many fundraisers as Bush?
and didn't the dems vote against raising the debt ceiling under Bush?
And now they are all for it.
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. ... It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies." -- Barack Hussein Obama, Failed Leader, Community Organizer and low-level socialist agitator
Spending cuts in the middle of a fragile economic recovery?
Heck..that's worse then raising taxes.
It's simple economics.
I am surprised how quickly the Democrats let the Republicans dominate the discussion with that bullshit.
For 8 years they practiced "deficits don't matter" economics (along with regulations don't matter, enforcement doesn't matter).
They raised the debt ceiling some 19 times during the Bush administration.
NOW, all of a sudden, they care.
Go figure.
They don't care. The people that elected them care [finally]. And what's a pols #1 job? getting re-elected. why else would big 0 have done 3 times as many fundraisers as Bush?
and didn't the dems vote against raising the debt ceiling under Bush?
And now they are all for it.
Has the Debt Ceiling been raised under Obama? I'm honestly not sure.
But this isn't to pay for future expenses..this is to pay for stuff we already bought.
And as bad as it would be for the United States to default on their promises...with Conservatives just creaming themselves with the idea that this would be "Obama's Waterloo"..this would be much worse for Republicans.
The President would control what bills get paid..with Republicans holding the bag on shutting down the government.
And believe me..I don't think that would be pretty.
Spending cuts in the middle of a fragile economic recovery?
Heck..that's worse then raising taxes.
It's simple economics.
I am surprised how quickly the Democrats let the Republicans dominate the discussion with that bullshit.
For 8 years they practiced "deficits don't matter" economics (along with regulations don't matter, enforcement doesn't matter).
They raised the debt ceiling some 19 times during the Bush administration.
NOW, all of a sudden, they care.
Go figure.
They don't care. The people that elected them care [finally]. And what's a pols #1 job? getting re-elected. why else would big 0 have done 3 times as many fundraisers as Bush?
and didn't the dems vote against raising the debt ceiling under Bush?
And now they are all for it.
Has the Debt Ceiling been raised under Obama? I'm honestly not sure.
But this isn't to pay for future expenses..this is to pay for stuff we already bought.
And as bad as it would be for the United States to default on their promises...with Conservatives just creaming themselves with the idea that this would be "Obama's Waterloo"..this would be much worse for Republicans.
The President would control what bills get paid..with Republicans holding the bag on shutting down the government.
And believe me..I don't think that would be pretty.
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. ... It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our government's reckless fiscal policies." -- Barack Hussein Obama, Failed Leader, Community Organizer and low-level socialist agitator
And he was completely correct.
Bush lowered taxes while starting 2 wars, the Department of Homeland Security and Medicare Part D.
Buying brand new shiny stuff with no way to pay for them is folly. It's really voodoo economics..
But heck.
57 STATES!!!!
They don't care. The people that elected them care [finally]. And what's a pols #1 job? getting re-elected. why else would big 0 have done 3 times as many fundraisers as Bush?
and didn't the dems vote against raising the debt ceiling under Bush?
And now they are all for it.
Has the Debt Ceiling been raised under Obama? I'm honestly not sure.
But this isn't to pay for future expenses..this is to pay for stuff we already bought.
And as bad as it would be for the United States to default on their promises...with Conservatives just creaming themselves with the idea that this would be "Obama's Waterloo"..this would be much worse for Republicans.
The President would control what bills get paid..with Republicans holding the bag on shutting down the government.
And believe me..I don't think that would be pretty.
The American people are still waiting to see that list of massive cut's what they've seen thus far is cries from this administration on how they are going to raise taxes on everything. So as far as a show down goes I strongly think its this administration that is in deep trouble with the electorate
Has the Debt Ceiling been raised under Obama? I'm honestly not sure.
But this isn't to pay for future expenses..this is to pay for stuff we already bought.
And as bad as it would be for the United States to default on their promises...with Conservatives just creaming themselves with the idea that this would be "Obama's Waterloo"..this would be much worse for Republicans.
The President would control what bills get paid..with Republicans holding the bag on shutting down the government.
And believe me..I don't think that would be pretty.
The American people are still waiting to see that list of massive cut's what they've seen thus far is cries from this administration on how they are going to raise taxes on everything. So as far as a show down goes I strongly think its this administration that is in deep trouble with the electorate
No they ain't.
Not the majority anyway. The nutty Tea Party is.
What the majority want are jobs. They don't want their SSI or Medicare screwed with.
That's why the nutters won the midterms. They ran on Obama CUTTING 500 Billion from Medicare. They also ran on creating jobs. Now that they are in..they are doing NOTHING to create jobs..and trying to destroy medicare.
I am certain that the GOP is prepared to see the country fall into default. I hope he doesn't, but I expect Obama to fold on this one. I guess he, unlike the GOP, will have to consider Country over Political Party.
A default could turn the US into a near 3rd world counrty. The entire world's economy will go down the tubes. All so that the rich in the US can keep their tax breaks.
And to think all that Obama and the sycophants need do is to produce the necessary massive spending cut's to show the American people that really do care about this nation
Spending cuts in the middle of a fragile economic recovery?
Heck..that's worse then raising taxes.
It's simple economics.
I am surprised how quickly the Democrats let the Republicans dominate the discussion with that bullshit.
For 8 years they practiced "deficits don't matter" economics (along with regulations don't matter, enforcement doesn't matter).
They raised the debt ceiling some 19 times during the Bush administration.
NOW, all of a sudden, they care.
Go figure.
And to think all that Obama and the sycophants need do is to produce the necessary massive spending cut's to show the American people that really do care about this nation
Spending cuts in the middle of a fragile economic recovery?
Heck..that's worse then raising taxes.
It's simple economics.
I am surprised how quickly the Democrats let the Republicans dominate the discussion with that bullshit.
For 8 years they practiced "deficits don't matter" economics (along with regulations don't matter, enforcement doesn't matter).
They raised the debt ceiling some 19 times during the Bush administration.
NOW, all of a sudden, they care.
Go figure.
June 2002: Congress approves a $450 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $6.4 trillion. McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor vote yea, Kyl votes nay.
May 2003: Congress approves a $900 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $7.384 trillion.
November 2004: Congress approves an $800 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.1 trillion.
March 2006: Congress approves a $781 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.965 trillion.
September 2007: Congress approves an $850 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $9.815 trillion.
I count five times the debt limit was raised, and the Democrats controlled the Congress the fifth time.
And to think all that Obama and the sycophants need do is to produce the necessary massive spending cut's to show the American people that really do care about this nation
Spending cuts in the middle of a fragile economic recovery?
Heck..that's worse then raising taxes.
It's simple economics.
I am surprised how quickly the Democrats let the Republicans dominate the discussion with that bullshit.
For 8 years they practiced "deficits don't matter" economics (along with regulations don't matter, enforcement doesn't matter).
They raised the debt ceiling some 19 times during the Bush administration.
NOW, all of a sudden, they care.
Go figure.
June 2002: Congress approves a $450 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $6.4 trillion. McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor vote yea, Kyl votes nay.
May 2003: Congress approves a $900 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $7.384 trillion.
November 2004: Congress approves an $800 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.1 trillion.
March 2006: Congress approves a $781 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.965 trillion.
September 2007: Congress approves an $850 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $9.815 trillion.
I found one more: July 2008 Subsection (b) of section 3101 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking out the dollar limitation contained in such subsection and inserting in lieu thereof $10,615,000,000,000.
I count six times the debt limit was raised during the Bush Administration, and the Democrats controlled the Congress the last two times.
Where did you get the 19 times?
During Bush Presidency, Current GOP Leaders Voted 19 Times To Increase Debt Limit By $4 Trillion
By Travis Waldron on Apr 14, 2011 at 11:49 am
After pushing the government to brink of shutdown last week, Republican Congressional leaders are now preparing to push America to the edge of default by refusing to increase the nations debt limit without first getting Democrats to concede to large spending cuts.
But while the four Republicans in Congressional leadership positions are attempting to hold the increase hostage now, they combined to vote for a debt limit increase 19 times during the presidency of George W. Bush. In doing so, they increased the debt limit by nearly $4 trillion.
During Bush Presidency, Current GOP Leaders Voted 19 Times To Increase Debt Limit By $4 Trillion | ThinkProgress
Has the Debt Ceiling been raised under Obama? I'm honestly not sure.
But this isn't to pay for future expenses..this is to pay for stuff we already bought.
And as bad as it would be for the United States to default on their promises...with Conservatives just creaming themselves with the idea that this would be "Obama's Waterloo"..this would be much worse for Republicans.
The President would control what bills get paid..with Republicans holding the bag on shutting down the government.
And believe me..I don't think that would be pretty.
The American people are still waiting to see that list of massive cut's what they've seen thus far is cries from this administration on how they are going to raise taxes on everything. So as far as a show down goes I strongly think its this administration that is in deep trouble with the electorate
No they ain't.
Not the majority anyway. The nutty Tea Party is.
What the majority want are jobs. They don't want their SSI or Medicare screwed with.
That's why the nutters won the midterms. They ran on Obama CUTTING 500 Billion from Medicare. They also ran on creating jobs. Now that they are in..they are doing NOTHING to create jobs..and trying to destroy medicare.
I am certain that the GOP is prepared to see the country fall into default. I hope he doesn't, but I expect Obama to fold on this one. I guess he, unlike the GOP, will have to consider Country over Political Party.
A default could turn the US into a near 3rd world counrty. The entire world's economy will go down the tubes. All so that the rich in the US can keep their tax breaks.
Spending cuts in the middle of a fragile economic recovery?
Heck..that's worse then raising taxes.
It's simple economics.
I am surprised how quickly the Democrats let the Republicans dominate the discussion with that bullshit.
For 8 years they practiced "deficits don't matter" economics (along with regulations don't matter, enforcement doesn't matter).
They raised the debt ceiling some 19 times during the Bush administration.
NOW, all of a sudden, they care.
Go figure.
June 2002: Congress approves a $450 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $6.4 trillion. McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor vote yea, Kyl votes nay.
May 2003: Congress approves a $900 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $7.384 trillion.
November 2004: Congress approves an $800 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.1 trillion.
March 2006: Congress approves a $781 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.965 trillion.
September 2007: Congress approves an $850 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $9.815 trillion.
I found one more: July 2008 Subsection (b) of section 3101 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking out the dollar limitation contained in such subsection and inserting in lieu thereof $10,615,000,000,000.
I count six times the debt limit was raised during the Bush Administration, and the Democrats controlled the Congress the last two times.
Where did you get the 19 times?
The combined vote of Republican leaders totals 19 times. I should have been more clear.
My bad.
During Bush Presidency, Current GOP Leaders Voted 19 Times To Increase Debt Limit By $4 Trillion
By Travis Waldron on Apr 14, 2011 at 11:49 am
After pushing the government to brink of shutdown last week, Republican Congressional leaders are now preparing to push America to the edge of default by refusing to increase the nations debt limit without first getting Democrats to concede to large spending cuts.
But while the four Republicans in Congressional leadership positions are attempting to hold the increase hostage now, they combined to vote for a debt limit increase 19 times during the presidency of George W. Bush. In doing so, they increased the debt limit by nearly $4 trillion.
During Bush Presidency, Current GOP Leaders Voted 19 Times To Increase Debt Limit By $4 Trillion | ThinkProgress
LOL you really think the American people are not paying attention don't you. Got new's for you this maladministration has dug its grave. In normal course of events the population doesn't pay attention to the election process until the very last minute this time however the electorate is fully awake and they are not happy with what they are seeing.
June 2002: Congress approves a $450 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $6.4 trillion. McConnell, Boehner, and Cantor vote yea, Kyl votes nay.
May 2003: Congress approves a $900 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $7.384 trillion.
November 2004: Congress approves an $800 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.1 trillion.
March 2006: Congress approves a $781 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $8.965 trillion.
September 2007: Congress approves an $850 billion increase, raising the debt limit to $9.815 trillion.
I found one more: July 2008 Subsection (b) of section 3101 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking out the dollar limitation contained in such subsection and inserting in lieu thereof $10,615,000,000,000.
I count six times the debt limit was raised during the Bush Administration, and the Democrats controlled the Congress the last two times.
Where did you get the 19 times?
The combined vote of Republican leaders totals 19 times. I should have been more clear.
My bad.
During Bush Presidency, Current GOP Leaders Voted 19 Times To Increase Debt Limit By $4 Trillion
By Travis Waldron on Apr 14, 2011 at 11:49 am
After pushing the government to brink of shutdown last week, Republican Congressional leaders are now preparing to push America to the edge of default by refusing to increase the nations debt limit without first getting Democrats to concede to large spending cuts.
But while the four Republicans in Congressional leadership positions are attempting to hold the increase hostage now, they combined to vote for a debt limit increase 19 times during the presidency of George W. Bush. In doing so, they increased the debt limit by nearly $4 trillion.
During Bush Presidency, Current GOP Leaders Voted 19 Times To Increase Debt Limit By $4 Trillion | ThinkProgress
That link is fucking lame. What ever happened to cutting out the vitrole?
Hold the increase "hostage"? gimme a break. That right there means the rest of the shit they spewed is partisan hack blather that proved to any one willing to filter through it, that the dems have no plan to make any actual concessions.
same ol' same ol'
Evul reps wanna kill granny and kids while we stand on the sidelines doing nothing.
