Rapper - Fuck the Troops?

[yidnar]

agreed, poster i would never say "fuck the troops"
but i would say "fuck those that put them in harms way!"

fuck muslims !!

 

[yidnar]

so.. When did this rapper dude become an icon of lefty politics? Does that, similarly, put fred phelps into the right wing squawk box?

he's an icon to the simians !!

 

[Kiki Cannoli]

Damn, that freedom of speech thing is one nasty bitch.

Indeed. People are free to tell ignorant rappers and drooling internet leftists that they're full of shit.

Ain't America great?[/QUOTE]

Yes. It is.

 

[daveman]

Damn, that freedom of speech thing is one nasty bitch.

Indeed. People are free to tell ignorant rappers and drooling internet leftists that they're full of shit.

Ain't America great?[/QUOTE]

Yes. It is.

 

[RealChange]

Wow, what an ignorant f**K. It's ironic that he calls himself a Soulja.

 

[RealChange]

Damn, that freedom of speech thing is one nasty bitch.

Indeed. People are free to tell ignorant rappers and drooling internet leftists that they're full of shit.

Ain't America great?

ahaha, nice!

 

[Disenchanted61]

Damn, that freedom of speech thing is one nasty bitch.

Indeed. People are free to tell ignorant rappers and drooling internet leftists that they're full of shit.

Ain't America great?

But for some reason, hearing it from from you has no impact.

 

[newpolitics]

i have no clue who this rapper or any other rapper is....a violent music.....with violent people who seem to die young

...or a music that expresses a reality you are simply uncomfortable and unfamiliar with, so write it off and call it simply violent, because you fear the unfamiliar. Get over it. It is a valid musical expression.

 

[Ropey]

America forget to teach their generations a love for the country. They removed all that stuff. So now the young have love for other things far more than their country. The rapping is just a method to let the angst of marginalization out.

America really needs to focus on the young. Far more than they are doing. They castrate themselves.

The middle east is proof of what can happen when this is taken to the other extreme.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Protecting YOUR freedom to come here and bitch about it, among other things!

My freedom is not protected by us warmongering in Iraq or Libya or at most of the 800 bases we have set up shop in around the world.

 

[Provocateur]

Republicans fucked them first, sending them to Iraq with old and rusty equipment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/08/i...8cnd-rumsfeld.html?pagewanted=print&position=

Republicans fucked them second by working to cut veterans benefits.

Senator Tom Coburn holding up Veterans benefits bill - National progressive politics | Examiner.com

McCain runs against Veterans. Too many benefits, won't stay trapped in the military. Third time fucked.

McCain, Obama spar on veterans benefits - USATODAY.com

So remember, Republicans fucked the troops FIRST, SECOND, and THIRD. Don't call the "truth" a "lie".

An awesome condemnation of the rapper's vile words by the local hack lib. Nice work.

 

[daveman]

Damn, that freedom of speech thing is one nasty bitch.

Indeed. People are free to tell ignorant rappers and drooling internet leftists that they're full of shit.

Ain't America great?

But for some reason, hearing it from from you has no impact.

Sure, if you'd rather listen to a gang-banging retard than someone who wore the uniform for 20 years.

But that's okay. I know there's nothing I could say that could penetrate your idiocy.

 

[Ropey]

Damn, that freedom of speech thing is one nasty bitch.

Indeed. People are free to tell ignorant rappers and drooling internet leftists that they're full of shit.

Ain't America great?

But for some reason, hearing it from from you has no impact.

It impacts his audience and that's what this is all about. It impacts you enough to post to him. It impacted me enough to post to him.

You impacted me enough to post to you, so if you are able to gain a larger audience then you can impact more people. That's simply life regardless of politics.

Rappers have their audience but so what? So do you and I. They just make a lot of money expressing themselves while we don't get that kind of satisfaction. America will deal with this expression just as it dealt with the previous expressions.

It will evolve. America is an evolution in the state of man imo. It's too bad this was never taught to the US young. (or maybe it is supposed to be Darwinian slow --> spurt --> slow...

 

[newpolitics]

America forget to teach their generations a love for the country. They removed all that stuff. So now the young have love for other things far more than their country. The rapping is just a method to let the angst of marginalization out.

America really needs to focus on the young. Far more than they are doing. They castrate themselves.

The middle east is proof of what can happen when this is taken to the other extreme.

Did you take classes when you were little on how to love america? Did they have community seminars? How about this: there is more information about the rest of the world more easily available because of technology. People in America don't live in a vacuum anymore as much as they used to. We don't have to get our news through somebody else anymore. We can get it straight from the source because of the internet. People simply understand that America is not that great. It's not bad, but its not exceptional. It's just another country with its own set of problems This forced American Exceptionalism that republicans try to force down everyone's throat is contrived. They trey to re-create the 'good old days,' not realizing that this 'deep respect' for our country was an indoctrination allowed only by a lack of differing viewpoints in earlier generations. Yes, it may be a more comfortable place to live relative to other parts of the world, but we still have problems, and there are other equally great if not better places to live in the world. But, who cares. I live and was born here, and I love my country regardless. I don't need to pass some patriotic test, nor or do I don't need to lie to myself about about how good my country is, or be forced to conform to someone else's ideal of America. I am a real american by speaking my mind and exercising my rights, even if that opinion isn't a positive one for America. Conservative minded people have no concept of this. Their philosophy, 'its our way or the highway.' The irony being that this is extremely un-american.

 

[Ropey]

^ Your opinion is accepted as that. I love Canada. I talk to Americans. Many do not love America as I love Canada. They turn to the political parties as their reasons for not loving America.

I wonder at that. Even when some say say they do.

 

[The Gadfly]

America forget to teach their generations a love for the country. They removed all that stuff. So now the young have love for other things far more than their country. The rapping is just a method to let the angst of marginalization out.

America really needs to focus on the young. Far more than they are doing. They castrate themselves.

The middle east is proof of what can happen when this is taken to the other extreme.

Did you take classes when you were little on how to love america? Did they have community seminars? How about this: there is more information about the rest of the world more easily available because of technology. People in America don't live in a vacuum anymore as much as they used to. We don't have to get our news through somebody else anymore. We can get it straight from the source because of the internet. People simply understand that America is not that great. It's not bad, but its not exceptional. It's just another country with its own set of problems This forced American Exceptionalism that republicans try to force down everyone's throat is contrived. They trey to re-create the 'good old days,' not realizing that this 'deep respect' for our country was an indoctrination allowed only by a lack of differing viewpoints in earlier generations. Yes, it may be a more comfortable place to live relative to other parts of the world, but we still have problems, and there are other equally great if not better places to live in the world. But, who cares. I live and was born here, and I love my country regardless. I don't need to pass some patriotic test, nor or do I don't need to lie to myself about about how good my country is, or be forced to conform to someone else's ideal of America. I am a real american by speaking my mind and exercising my rights, even if that opinion isn't a positive one for America. Conservative minded people have no concept of this. Their philosophy, 'its our way or the highway.' The irony being that this is extremely un-american.

You are a perfect example of everything that is wrong with this nation today. You are willing to demean your country, because you have no concept of the value, or the price, of the freedom you take for granted. America isn't different, huh? Well, in the so-called "great democracies" of Europe, you can be jailed for simply saying the wrong thing-but not here. In some of the world's "democracies" you can be imprisoned without trial, indefinitely, or be presumed guilty until PROVEN innocent-that's not how it works, not here. America is nothing special, eh? You show me one other country that has put men on the moon (and we did that, over forty years ago!) Oh and by the way, of those other countries that criticize America so much, you show me one, that has been more generous, or been there for more people in more places, than America-not one of them, NOT ONE can say that!

"Indoctrination"? Well, I suppose you could call it that. When I was a kid, in the bad old days right after WW II, we were taught to love our country. We were taught the difference between communism and freedom, and we knew which our troops in Korea (who were often our dads, or uncles, or older brothers), were fighting for; (and we damn sure didn't spit on them or call them names when they came home, either!) Yes, we were taught citizenship, in our schools; we were taught to pledge allegiance to the flag, and to stand at attention for the national anthem; we were taught to respect the flag, obey the law,and do the right thing. We were taught to respect adults, and if we did not, we got our butts whipped. It's called discipline-today, some people call it "child abuse". If a teacher paddled us, we got another when our parents found out. We were taught respect for others, and their property; we WEREN'T taught to be arrogant disrespectful, self-centered, mouthy little brats! We were taught self-discipline, and honor, too. I wonder how many of your generation would actually have been inspired when JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country!" Sure isn't the mentality of the "entitlement generation", now is it?

You can call it whatever you want, but most of you today don't have those values, and you are the poorer for it. The vast majority of you are aimless, self-absorbed, egotistical, spoiled brats who have never gotten any calluses on your hands, don't know what hard work is (and don't care), don't know the meaning of the concepts of Duty, Honor, and Country, and don't understand self-sacrifice. The majority of you, having had little discipline in your lives, cannot discipline yourselves. Most of you have never served your country, and don't want to; you'll leave that to someone else. As a result, you don't know what it is like to go to places where there is no freedom, and people have to fight for it. You have no idea what it is like to come back from a place like that, and see Old Glory waving in the breeze. For those of us who have, the sight of her has a meaning you will never know. You call yourselves "citizens of the world", now, without understanding what that means. You scorn patriotism and traditional values as old-fashioned and out-of-date. Those of us who do not, are guilty (in your eyes) of the "awful "crime" of "Jingoism". Now it's all about YOUR rights, YOUR desires, YOUR wants, and to hell with anyone else's; but hey, you got them (thanks to someone else) and you can use, or misuse, them any way you like; it's the American way, right? Actually that only works when you protect and respect the rights of your fellow Americans the same way you do your own, but no one taught you that; my goodness, you might have to "conform" and we can't have that! Interesting, because you'll conform to peer pressure and fads without a whimper.

All this is not entirely your fault, of course; you are the result of bad (or simply negligent) parenting, and at least partly the result of a country that still hasn't sorted out the results of the social revolution it went through fifty years or so ago, when part of my generation decided it wanted to throw out "traditional values" without having any real idea what to replace those with. As a result, you've grown up with a culture of "anything goes", which serves neither you nor America well, but you don't know any better. You had better find something better, though, because if you do not, and you keep doing what you do, you will eventually piss this country (and your freedom), right down the drain, and you won't even recognize you're doing it, until it's too late. You may not like what I say, and you may not like me, but this is your wake up call, and you had better pay attention while you can, or one day freedom will be just a memory for you, and then you'll learn that getting it back is a whole lot tougher, than what you should have done to keep it!

 

[newpolitics]

America forget to teach their generations a love for the country. They removed all that stuff. So now the young have love for other things far more than their country. The rapping is just a method to let the angst of marginalization out.

America really needs to focus on the young. Far more than they are doing. They castrate themselves.

The middle east is proof of what can happen when this is taken to the other extreme.

Did you take classes when you were little on how to love america? Did they have community seminars? How about this: there is more information about the rest of the world more easily available because of technology. People in America don't live in a vacuum anymore as much as they used to. We don't have to get our news through somebody else anymore. We can get it straight from the source because of the internet. People simply understand that America is not that great. It's not bad, but its not exceptional. It's just another country with its own set of problems This forced American Exceptionalism that republicans try to force down everyone's throat is contrived. They trey to re-create the 'good old days,' not realizing that this 'deep respect' for our country was an indoctrination allowed only by a lack of differing viewpoints in earlier generations. Yes, it may be a more comfortable place to live relative to other parts of the world, but we still have problems, and there are other equally great if not better places to live in the world. But, who cares. I live and was born here, and I love my country regardless. I don't need to pass some patriotic test, nor or do I don't need to lie to myself about about how good my country is, or be forced to conform to someone else's ideal of America. I am a real american by speaking my mind and exercising my rights, even if that opinion isn't a positive one for America. Conservative minded people have no concept of this. Their philosophy, 'its our way or the highway.' The irony being that this is extremely un-american.

You are a perfect example of everything that is wrong with this nation today. You are willing to demean your country, because you have no concept of the value, or the price, of the freedom you take for granted. America isn't different, huh? Well, in the so-called "great democracies" of Europe, you can be jailed for simply saying the wrong thing-but not here. In some of the world's "democracies" you can be imprisoned without trial, indefinitely, or be presumed guilty until PROVEN innocent-that's not how it works, not here. America is nothing special, eh? You show me one other country that has put men on the moon (and we did that, over forty years ago!) Oh and by the way, of those other countries that criticize America so much, you show me one, that has been more generous, or been there for more people in more places, than America-not one of them, NOT ONE can say that!

"Indoctrination"? Well, I suppose you could call it that. When I was a kid, in the bad old days right after WW II, we were taught to love our country. We were taught the difference between communism and freedom, and we knew which our troops in Korea (who were often our dads, or uncles, or older brothers), were fighting for; (and we damn sure didn't spit on them or call them names when they came home, either!) Yes, we were taught citizenship, in our schools; we were taught to pledge allegiance to the flag, and to stand at attention for the national anthem; we were taught to respect the flag, obey the law,and do the right thing. We were taught to respect adults, and if we did not, we got our butts whipped. It's called discipline-today, some people call it "child abuse". If a teacher paddled us, we got another when our parents found out. We were taught respect for others, and their property; we WEREN'T taught to be arrogant disrespectful, self-centered, mouthy little brats! We were taught self-discipline, and honor, too. I wonder how many of your generation would actually have been inspired when JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country!" Sure isn't the mentality of the "entitlement generation", now is it?

You can call it whatever you want, but most of you today don't have those values, and you are the poorer for it. The vast majority of you are aimless, self-absorbed, egotistical, spoiled brats who have never gotten any calluses on your hands, don't know what hard work is (and don't care), don't know the meaning of the concepts of Duty, Honor, and Country, and don't understand self-sacrifice. The majority of you, having had little discipline in your lives, cannot discipline yourselves. Most of you have never served your country, and don't want to; you'll leave that to someone else. As a result, you don't know what it is like to go to places where there is no freedom, and people have to fight for it. You have no idea what it is like to come back from a place like that, and see Old Glory waving in the breeze. For those of us who have, the sight of her has a meaning you will never know. You call yourselves "citizens of the world", now, without understanding what that means. You scorn patriotism and traditional values as old-fashioned and out-of-date. Those of us who do not, are guilty (in your eyes) of the "awful "crime" of "Jingoism". Now it's all about YOUR rights, YOUR desires, YOUR wants, and to hell with anyone else's; but hey, you got them (thanks to someone else) and you can use, or misuse, them any way you like; it's the American way, right? Actually that only works when you protect and respect the rights of your fellow Americans the same way you do your own, but no one taught you that; my goodness, you might have to "conform" and we can't have that! Interesting, because you'll conform to peer pressure and fads without a whimper.

All this is not entirely your fault, of course; you are the result of bad (or simply negligent) parenting, and at least partly the result of a country that still hasn't sorted out the results of the social revolution it went through fifty years or so ago, when part of my generation decided it wanted to throw out "traditional values" without having any real idea what to replace those with. As a result, you've grown up with a culture of "anything goes", which serves neither you nor America well, but you don't know any better. You had better find something better, though, because if you do not, and you keep doing what you do, you will eventually piss this country (and your freedom), right down the drain, and you won't even recognize you're doing it, until it's too late. You may not like what I say, and you may not like me, but this is your wake up call, and you had better pay attention while you can, or one day freedom will be just a memory for you, and then you'll learn that getting it back is a whole lot tougher, than what you should have done to keep it!

You showed no dignity, no such respect of that which you just spoke, when you presumed that my percieved flaws are the result of bad parenting. This is extremely insulting, and you obviously are blind to your own hypocrisy. How dare you presume to know anything about my life, and much less, attribute flaws about my character that you percieve in such a careless and arrogant manner. This alone invalidates everything you just said. You are an old, sad man, trapped in the past, without a clue of what it is like to grow up in todays world.

Of course I would have rather grown up with guidance, and culture that wasn't superficial, but if you think we are blind to this fact, then you are simply deluding yourself. The dissatisfaction people have with todays pop culture, which is what you are referring to, is evident. Yet, pop culture doesn't define who we are. I don't let my country define me. You seem like yet just another cog in a machine, as it was after WWII, and I understand that. These are different times. No better, no worse. Just different. You perceived your society from a singular place, able now to talk of the romance of the ideals you presented. They do sound romantic, and enchanting. This I can not deny you. Yet, you project your experiences as some kind of bar to be compared against. I'm not saying your generation didn't fight. I am fully aware that many died to preserve the freedoms that we now take for granted, yet I am also aware of the corruption, hypocrisy, war-mongering mentality that brought us into wars we never should have went to. Wars where american soldiers died for no reason. Where innocent people of many different nationalities died for no reason, simply because our political leaders and those behind them, wanted to make a little money.

The evil which America has perpetrated is something I am not blind to. I will give credit where credit is due, but I will not blind myself to certain truths in order to achieve a false patriotism. Just because society taught you that something was right when you were little, doesn't mean it is right. You are only getting one side of the story. that is your problem. You haven't learned the other side of things, and that mostly likely because of attachments, or ego.

We all dream of a time past that was more pure. Unfortunately, this is only a vision for most. We deal with what we are dealt. Some of us grew up in society with less values. Is that our fault? You need to show some class and dignity, regardless of what you believe to be true, and dont ever bring up parenting when talking to someone you do not at all know, especially in an online political forum. Everything you said made sense, until you made yourself out to be an arrogant, self-righteous, asshole. My father passed when I was a little boy, so I guess, you're assumption was correct, but that doesn't mean you should have made it. You could have had a little more respect than that. I didn't have any of the guidance that I wanted, and I hate authority, and I won't bow down to an institution simply because it tells me I should, but that doesn't mean I can't give myself the discipline I need to survive NOW. I adopt and achieve the ideals, beliefs, attitudes, and appreciations I need to survive in todays world, not yesterdays world. That is how life works. You assume that people can't overcome early experiences. That, because many of us today dont' have the guidance we would have liked, we can not gain self-discipline on our own. We can. It is simply a matter of adapting to todays culture, and doing what you need to do to survive. Having ideals is a luxury into todays world that few seem to be able to afford.

I've wisened up, maybe you should look at both sides of the coin, and learn about the incredible evils America has done both abroad and at home. Try to have a balanced view of this country, and not one blinded by romantic youthful experiences. I have learned of things you do obviously haven't learned about America, that have caused me to doubt this nation fundamentally. I still appreciate the rights I have compared to those in certain other countries, but I am not going to bow down to idealism because some ignorant old man tells me about the 'good old days,' when "PEOPLE LEARNED RESPECT." Get real, and get off your high horse.

 

[Kiki Cannoli]

Did you take classes when you were little on how to love america? Did they have community seminars? How about this: there is more information about the rest of the world more easily available because of technology. People in America don't live in a vacuum anymore as much as they used to. We don't have to get our news through somebody else anymore. We can get it straight from the source because of the internet. People simply understand that America is not that great. It's not bad, but its not exceptional. It's just another country with its own set of problems This forced American Exceptionalism that republicans try to force down everyone's throat is contrived. They trey to re-create the 'good old days,' not realizing that this 'deep respect' for our country was an indoctrination allowed only by a lack of differing viewpoints in earlier generations. Yes, it may be a more comfortable place to live relative to other parts of the world, but we still have problems, and there are other equally great if not better places to live in the world. But, who cares. I live and was born here, and I love my country regardless. I don't need to pass some patriotic test, nor or do I don't need to lie to myself about about how good my country is, or be forced to conform to someone else's ideal of America. I am a real american by speaking my mind and exercising my rights, even if that opinion isn't a positive one for America. Conservative minded people have no concept of this. Their philosophy, 'its our way or the highway.' The irony being that this is extremely un-american.

You are a perfect example of everything that is wrong with this nation today. You are willing to demean your country, because you have no concept of the value, or the price, of the freedom you take for granted. America isn't different, huh? Well, in the so-called "great democracies" of Europe, you can be jailed for simply saying the wrong thing-but not here. In some of the world's "democracies" you can be imprisoned without trial, indefinitely, or be presumed guilty until PROVEN innocent-that's not how it works, not here. America is nothing special, eh? You show me one other country that has put men on the moon (and we did that, over forty years ago!) Oh and by the way, of those other countries that criticize America so much, you show me one, that has been more generous, or been there for more people in more places, than America-not one of them, NOT ONE can say that!

"Indoctrination"? Well, I suppose you could call it that. When I was a kid, in the bad old days right after WW II, we were taught to love our country. We were taught the difference between communism and freedom, and we knew which our troops in Korea (who were often our dads, or uncles, or older brothers), were fighting for; (and we damn sure didn't spit on them or call them names when they came home, either!) Yes, we were taught citizenship, in our schools; we were taught to pledge allegiance to the flag, and to stand at attention for the national anthem; we were taught to respect the flag, obey the law,and do the right thing. We were taught to respect adults, and if we did not, we got our butts whipped. It's called discipline-today, some people call it "child abuse". If a teacher paddled us, we got another when our parents found out. We were taught respect for others, and their property; we WEREN'T taught to be arrogant disrespectful, self-centered, mouthy little brats! We were taught self-discipline, and honor, too. I wonder how many of your generation would actually have been inspired when JFK said "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country!" Sure isn't the mentality of the "entitlement generation", now is it?

You can call it whatever you want, but most of you today don't have those values, and you are the poorer for it. The vast majority of you are aimless, self-absorbed, egotistical, spoiled brats who have never gotten any calluses on your hands, don't know what hard work is (and don't care), don't know the meaning of the concepts of Duty, Honor, and Country, and don't understand self-sacrifice. The majority of you, having had little discipline in your lives, cannot discipline yourselves. Most of you have never served your country, and don't want to; you'll leave that to someone else. As a result, you don't know what it is like to go to places where there is no freedom, and people have to fight for it. You have no idea what it is like to come back from a place like that, and see Old Glory waving in the breeze. For those of us who have, the sight of her has a meaning you will never know. You call yourselves "citizens of the world", now, without understanding what that means. You scorn patriotism and traditional values as old-fashioned and out-of-date. Those of us who do not, are guilty (in your eyes) of the "awful "crime" of "Jingoism". Now it's all about YOUR rights, YOUR desires, YOUR wants, and to hell with anyone else's; but hey, you got them (thanks to someone else) and you can use, or misuse, them any way you like; it's the American way, right? Actually that only works when you protect and respect the rights of your fellow Americans the same way you do your own, but no one taught you that; my goodness, you might have to "conform" and we can't have that! Interesting, because you'll conform to peer pressure and fads without a whimper.

All this is not entirely your fault, of course; you are the result of bad (or simply negligent) parenting, and at least partly the result of a country that still hasn't sorted out the results of the social revolution it went through fifty years or so ago, when part of my generation decided it wanted to throw out "traditional values" without having any real idea what to replace those with. As a result, you've grown up with a culture of "anything goes", which serves neither you nor America well, but you don't know any better. You had better find something better, though, because if you do not, and you keep doing what you do, you will eventually piss this country (and your freedom), right down the drain, and you won't even recognize you're doing it, until it's too late. You may not like what I say, and you may not like me, but this is your wake up call, and you had better pay attention while you can, or one day freedom will be just a memory for you, and then you'll learn that getting it back is a whole lot tougher, than what you should have done to keep it!

You showed no dignity, no such respect of that which you just spoke, when you presumed that my percieved flaws are the result of bad parenting. This is extremely insulting, and you obviously are blind to your own hypocrisy. How dare you presume to know anything about my life, and much less, attribute flaws about my character that you percieve in such a careless and arrogant manner. This alone invalidates everything you just said. You are an old, sad man, trapped in the past, without a clue of what it is like to grow up in todays world.

Of course I would have rather grown up with guidance, and culture that wasn't superficial, but if you think we are blind to this fact, then you are simply deluding yourself. The dissatisfaction people have with todays pop culture, which is what you are referring to, is evident. Yet, pop culture doesn't define who we are. I don't let my country define me. You seem like yet just another cog in a machine, as it was after WWII, and I understand that. These are different times. No better, no worse. Just different. You perceived your society from a singular place, able now to talk of the romance of the ideals you presented. They do sound romantic, and enchanting. This I can not deny you. Yet, you project your experiences as some kind of bar to be compared against. I'm not saying your generation didn't fight. I am fully aware that many died to preserve the freedoms that we now take for granted, yet I am also aware of the corruption, hypocrisy, war-mongering mentality that brought us into wars we never should have went to. Wars where american soldiers died for no reason. Where innocent people of many different nationalities died for no reason, simply because our political leaders and those behind them, wanted to make a little money.

The evil which America has perpetrated is something I am not blind to. I will give credit where credit is due, but I will not blind myself to certain truths in order to achieve a false patriotism. Just because society taught you that something was right when you were little, doesn't mean it is right. You are only getting one side of the story. that is your problem. You haven't learned the other side of things, and that mostly likely because of attachments, or ego.

We all dream of a time past that was more pure. Unfortunately, this is only a vision for most. We deal with what we are dealt. Some of us grew up in society with less values. Is that our fault? You need to show some class and dignity, regardless of what you believe to be true, and dont ever bring up parenting when talking to someone you do not at all know, especially in an online political forum. Everything you said made sense, until you made yourself out to be an arrogant, self-righteous, asshole. My father passed when I was a little boy, so I guess, you're assumption was correct, but that doesn't mean you should have made it. You could have had a little more respect than that. I didn't have any of the guidance that I wanted, and I hate authority, and I won't bow down to an institution simply because it tells me I should, but that doesn't mean I can't give myself the discipline I need to survive NOW. I adopt and achieve the ideals, beliefs, attitudes, and appreciations I need to survive in todays world, not yesterdays world. That is how life works. You assume that people can't overcome early experiences. That, because many of us today dont' have the guidance we would have liked, we can not gain self-discipline on our own. We can. It is simply a matter of adapting to todays culture, and doing what you need to do to survive. Having ideals is a luxury into todays world that few seem to be able to afford.

I've wisened up, maybe you should look at both sides of the coin, and learn about the incredible evils America has done both abroad and at home. Try to have a balanced view of this country, and not one blinded by romantic youthful experiences. I have learned of things you do obviously haven't learned about America, that have caused me to doubt this nation fundamentally. I still appreciate the rights I have compared to those in certain other countries, but I am not going to bow down to idealism because some ignorant old man tells me about the 'good old days,' when "PEOPLE LEARNED RESPECT." Get real, and get off your high horse.

The evil which America has perpetrated is something I am not blind to. I will give credit where credit is due, but I will not blind myself to certain truths in order to achieve a false patriotism.

Nice.

 

[Xchel]

Our troops die everyday to protect this rappers right to say just what he did. It is called Freedom of Speech and regardless of how unpopular his speech is..he has the right to say it.
This young man is 21 years old and as with most young folks sometimes their mouths open and things come out that they never meant to say. He also apologized..here are his words

“As an artist, I let my words get the best of me. Sometimes there are things that we feel, things that we want to express, and when we put them on paper and speak them out loud, they can come out wrong. When I expressed my frustration with the US Army, not only did my words come out wrong, I was wrong to even speak them. So, I write this to give my sincerest apology to all members of the United States military services, as well as their families that were offended by my most recent lyrics. As a young man who grew up in the post-9/11 era, I have watched our country fight two wars that seem like they are never going to end. I have seen thousands and thousands of our brave men and women get killed in battle and often times, I think for what? A lot of people in this country are struggling to make ends meet and I think a lot about what if we had never gone to war. Where would our economy be? Our schools, our after-school and work programs, our streets? I mean, damn, 48 people got shot in New York City just this past weekend … in 3 days …

I’m not saying that it is just because of a bad economy, but at a certain point we have to take care of our own people. In no way would I ever want to offend those who are protecting our freedoms … a lot of homeboys who I grew up with, a lot of people who come from the neighborhoods we live in … In no way do I want to hurt any of our honorable soldiers who put their lives at risk, regardless of how they feel about the two wars we fight in. I am just frustrated that we haven’t been able to bring you all home quick enough and my frustration got the best of me. I am deeply sorry.”

~Soulja Boy

 

[editec]

AH, did the big bad Rapper hurt the feelings of our troppoes?


I suspect the troops will survive, don't you, Warrior?