Rand Pauls 5 most controversial beliefs

[The T]

I heard he said this, but wow...I didn't see the clip before now. Wow.

Imagine you are a black or Hispanic or Asian couple with your children and trying to get them ice cream....and you have to tell those children that they are not welcomed there and cant come in.

What fucking year is this idiot living in? Talk about taking back America.

THERE IS NO DEFENSE FOR THIS IDIOTIC THINKING RACISTS. NONE.

Naturally a RASCIST as YOU ZONED...would focus on RACE.

WAY to Follow the Pretender-In Chief that is dividing this Republic.

-BRAVO- You rascist FUCK...YOU and Obama.

No comment on what I acutally said, hey? Is it beKKKause you really have no defense for this racist crap?


I appreciate you mentioning me and Obama in the same sentence. Thank you. Oh and fuck you and your fucking losing party.

These fucking racist tea baggers are really showing their fucking colors ...aren't ya!

Fuck you.........................................oh and god bless.

*I* Commented...YER BUSTED you Rascist Fuck. No amount of detraction will save yer ass.

 

[Zona]

Well Rightwinger--why don't you just get a little specific here and tell all of us EXACTLY what Rand Paul stated that you disagree with?---versus just doing your one line mud-slinging.

He said businesses should be allowed to have signs that say NO _________ insert minority here Are Allowed here.

That is a fucking racist. statement teabaggers. Period. What year is he in?

No Zone BOY *YOU * Are the Racist. YER *BUSTED*

Still waiting for you to comment on the no blacks allowed or no meixcans allowed signs.


Still waiting....






Crickets************

 

[Zona]

Crickets**************** you fucking racist......oh and god bless.

Rand is so done.



Neener neener....lol The T (eabagger)

 

[Oscar Wao]

He's done for tonight...it's pretty late and I'm sure he needs his rest.

He needs to rest so that he'll continue to work hard to win in November and to look good for his acceptance speech.

You are making something out of nothing.

 

[The T]

He said businesses should be allowed to have signs that say NO _________ insert minority here Are Allowed here.

That is a fucking racist. statement teabaggers. Period. What year is he in?

No Zone BOY *YOU * Are the Racist. YER *BUSTED*

Still waiting for you to comment on the no blacks allowed or no meixcans allowed signs.


Still waiting....






Crickets************

The crickets you hear are in your head you RASCIST

 

[The T]

Crickets**************** you fucking racist......oh and god bless.

Rand is so done.



Neener neener....lol The T (eabagger)

Keep going Rascist. You project...but NOT very well. You're transparent as HELL.

 

[jreeves]

Rand Paul and the Teabaggers have sure given cons permission to come out as racists.

I guess the people who run the United Negro College fund are racists too. The feds should make them serve all races....

 

[uptownlivin90]

Rand Paul's 5 most controversial beliefs - The Week

1. Government shouldn't require private businesses to serve customers of all races
"I don’t like the idea of telling private business owners — I abhor racism. I think it’s a bad business decision to exclude anybody from your restaurant — but, at the same time, I do believe in private ownership."
—Interview with Louisville Courier-Journal, April 25, 2010

2. A nuclear Iran isn't necessarily a threat
"Our national security is not threatened by Iran having one nuclear weapon."
—Ron Paul rally, Burlington, VT, October 2007

3. The Department of Education is unconstitutional
"I am against any federal funding or control of education... There is no Constitutional enumeration for federal education. The Constitution allows states and cities to participate in education, period."
—Response to National Education Association questionnaire, June 2009

4. Rein in Medicare — but not Medicare's payments to doctors (presumably including Rand Paul, a practicing optometrist who says half his patients are on Medicare)
"Medicare is socialized medicine," and one way to control medical costs would be to impose a $2,000 deductible in the program. "But try selling that one in an election."
—Comments in Lexington, KY, June 2009

5. Mountaintop coal mining is good for real estate values
"I think whoever owns the property can do with the property as they wish, and if the coal company buys it from a private property owner and they want to do it, fine. The other thing is that I think coal gets a bad name, because apparently a lot of the land is desirable once it gets flattened out... I don’t think anyone’s going to be missing a hill or two here and there. Some people like the flat land, and some of it apparently has become rather valuable when it’s become flattened."
—TV interview, October 2009

Funny thing is I agree with 3/5 of this.

 

[The T]

Rand Paul and the Teabaggers have sure given cons permission to come out as racists.

I guess the people who run the United Negro College fund are racists too. The feds should make them serve all races....

It's a good argument. And an exercise in Futility. UNCF is past tense...and only RASCISTS will use it.

 

[QUENTIN]

Rand Paul's 5 most controversial beliefs - The Week

1. Government shouldn't require private businesses to serve customers of all races
"I don’t like the idea of telling private business owners — I abhor racism. I think it’s a bad business decision to exclude anybody from your restaurant — but, at the same time, I do believe in private ownership."
—Interview with Louisville Courier-Journal, April 25, 2010

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that this isn't a racist view, but it's a conservative or libertarian view that ultimately allows for the racist deprivation of rights that fall comfortably within the government's legitimate regulatory and enforcement powers. If you want to operate a business in the US, you can't manufacture poison and put it in a meat product, for good reason. You can't use child labor, for good reason. And you can't violate the Civil Rights Act, for good reason. Ensuring the enforcement of civil rights laws is entirely within the proper realm of government authority and ensuring consumer protections is an important and perfectly legal function of government.

If he believes in private ownership to the extent that he thinks any business that wants to can reject serving white customers for instance, then he must think any business that wants to can reject following food safety requirements, since it's an intrusion of government mandates on private industry. But of course, that's craziness.

2. A nuclear Iran isn't necessarily a threat
"Our national security is not threatened by Iran having one nuclear weapon."
—Ron Paul rally, Burlington, VT, October 2007

This is simply true and he's right. Iran has not launched an aggressive war in modern history and is legally prohibited from doing so, as its real leaders, Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, the Assembly of Experts, and Revolutionary Guard, have a doctrine of “no first strike" they have adhered to for decades and shown no signs of breaking now (their military spending continues to be tiny too). The internally and internationally unpopular Ahmadenijad's blustery rhetoric is just posturing and even that doesn't rise to the level of any specific threats against nations the way many U.S. leaders directly threaten Iran with attack. We also have no legal or moral authority to dictate what other countries can have nuclear weapons when we have the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, are the only country to detonate nuclear weapons intentionally against people (civilians no less), and continually block forcing another rogue nuclear state, Israel, from signing the NPT. The level of hypocrisy required for the U.S. to attempt to demand who can and cannot have nuclear weapons, or even nuclear power, is astonishing.

3. The Department of Education is unconstitutional
"I am against any federal funding or control of education... There is no Constitutional enumeration for federal education. The Constitution allows states and cities to participate in education, period."
—Response to National Education Association questionnaire, June 2009

I don't necessarily feel it's unconstitutional (opposed to the Constitution and its provisions) but it is perhaps extra-constitutional (not specifically enumerated in the Constitution) so he is technically correct on that account. Though funding schools via local taxes creates schools whose quality of education and opportunity is based on the income of local residents, a transparently shameful and broken system our nation's children suffer from. Public schools nationwide should be funded solely through federal money and in relation to how many students they have, not the amount of money their parents make. So he's not necessarily wrong on this point, but I disagree with him on the policy he's implicitly advocating.

4. Rein in Medicare — but not Medicare's payments to doctors (presumably including Rand Paul, a practicing optometrist who says half his patients are on Medicare)
"Medicare is socialized medicine," and one way to control medical costs would be to impose a $2,000 deductible in the program. "But try selling that one in an election."
—Comments in Lexington, KY, June 2009

No, the opposite should take place. Government-run healthcare is both better quality and lower cost than private insurance, single-payer healthcare is the only system that both makes sense and works, efficiently, effectively, and to the benefit of everyone (except private insurance companies) and the economy as a whole.

5. Mountaintop coal mining is good for real estate values
"I think whoever owns the property can do with the property as they wish, and if the coal company buys it from a private property owner and they want to do it, fine. The other thing is that I think coal gets a bad name, because apparently a lot of the land is desirable once it gets flattened out... I don’t think anyone’s going to be missing a hill or two here and there. Some people like the flat land, and some of it apparently has become rather valuable when it’s become flattened."
—TV interview, October 2009

Eh, I have little information on this one with which to form an opinion. Couldn't say.

Generally I think Rand, like his dad, tends to be right on issues of foreign policy, civil liberties, and transparency and tends to be crazy on other domestic matters. I respect Ron though despite the fact that I disagree with him on most issues because he seems to be genuine and consistent in his actions and beliefs, rather than beholden to powerful special interests, and for better or worse is trying to represent the best interests of people.

It remains to be seen whether Rand is truly from the same mold but so far I think he's coming off worse than his old man.

 

[blu]

1. Government shouldn't require private businesses to serve customers of all races
"I don’t like the idea of telling private business owners — I abhor racism. I think it’s a bad business decision to exclude anybody from your restaurant — but, at the same time, I do believe in private ownership."
—Interview with Louisville Courier-Journal, April 25, 2010

please show where the federal government gets its power to tell private businesses who to serve or not

2. A nuclear Iran isn't necessarily a threat
"Our national security is not threatened by Iran having one nuclear weapon."
—Ron Paul rally, Burlington, VT, October 2007

ONE nuke isn't a problem for the usa, irsael will have problems though



are you going to refute his statement? dept of ed is unconstitutional and its ruin 30+ years of public school taught kids

4. Rein in Medicare — but not Medicare's payments to doctors (presumably including Rand Paul, a practicing optometrist who says half his patients are on Medicare)
"Medicare is socialized medicine," and one way to control medical costs would be to impose a $2,000 deductible in the program. "But try selling that one in an election."
—Comments in Lexington, KY, June 2009

making people pay for their own care is wrong somehow?

5. Mountaintop coal mining is good for real estate values
"I think whoever owns the property can do with the property as they wish, and if the coal company buys it from a private property owner and they want to do it, fine. The other thing is that I think coal gets a bad name, because apparently a lot of the land is desirable once it gets flattened out... I don’t think anyone’s going to be missing a hill or two here and there. Some people like the flat land, and some of it apparently has become rather valuable when it’s become flattened."
—TV interview, October 2009

is he wrong?

come on man I didn't type all this for you to ignore. I want a serious answer because it seems like you are just a troll.

 

[rightwinger]

1. Government shouldn't require private businesses to serve customers of all races
"I don’t like the idea of telling private business owners — I abhor racism. I think it’s a bad business decision to exclude anybody from your restaurant — but, at the same time, I do believe in private ownership."
—Interview with Louisville Courier-Journal, April 25, 2010

please show where the federal government gets its power to tell private businesses who to serve or not



ONE nuke isn't a problem for the usa, irsael will have problems though



are you going to refute his statement? dept of ed is unconstitutional and its ruin 30+ years of public school taught kids



making people pay for their own care is wrong somehow?

5. Mountaintop coal mining is good for real estate values
"I think whoever owns the property can do with the property as they wish, and if the coal company buys it from a private property owner and they want to do it, fine. The other thing is that I think coal gets a bad name, because apparently a lot of the land is desirable once it gets flattened out... I don’t think anyone’s going to be missing a hill or two here and there. Some people like the flat land, and some of it apparently has become rather valuable when it’s become flattened."
—TV interview, October 2009

is he wrong?

come on man I didn't type all this for you to ignore. I want a serious answer because it seems like you are just a troll.

Awww....did you miss me?
You need some attention? OK then

please show where the federal government gets its power to tell private businesses who to serve or not

The government has the right to regulate commerce. If you want to do business in this country, you have to oblige to government standards

ONE nuke isn't a problem for the usa, irsael will have problems though

Can Iran beat the US in a nuclear exchange? Of course not. But Rand Paul and his daddy have to realize the destabilizing affects that a nuclear Iran will have on the region. The Paul families simplistic approach to foreign policy reflects an ignorance of the US role as superpower. They might not like the role...but we are stuck with it

are you going to refute his statement? dept of ed is unconstitutional and its ruin 30+ years of public school taught kids

Burden of proof is upon you. Show where the Dept of Education has been found to be unconstitutional.....I'll wait

making people pay for their own care is wrong somehow?

Nothing wrong with copays, they are not popular but if they are needed to control solvency, they may be necessary. What is hypocritical of Dr Paul to fight about what doctors get paid being out of bounds in cutting costs. He is willing to make the elderly bear the burden but not the doctors

is he wrong?

One of the most laughably ridiculous statements ever uttered by a politician. Let the landowner do whatever he wants with the land...the hell with the impact. I imagine he supports draining swampland because it makes the property more valuable

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Funny, aren't most of his detractors fans of the Boy King.. a rabid anti-semite and a whitey hater?

 

[amrchaos]

Rand Paul is a shoo in regardless of 'simple' rookie mistakes. Remember his stance is basically near-civil anarchism and economic laissez faire--funny as this sound , we need someone with pure ideas like his. Understand, this is also my stance for Barney Sanders. We need an admitted socialists to help lay on the table as many veried social and economical ideas as possible. My agreement with any of them is predicated on what is on the table.

Now if Rand dons white Bed sheets and publicaly support the shooting of Mexicans crossing the border illegally---uh oh!

 

[blu]

The government has the right to regulate commerce. If you want to do business in this country, you have to oblige to government standards

what if businesses only operate and sell in one state?

Can Iran beat the US in a nuclear exchange? Of course not. But Rand Paul and his daddy have to realize the destabilizing affects that a nuclear Iran will have on the region. The Paul families simplistic approach to foreign policy reflects an ignorance of the US role as superpower. They might not like the role...but we are stuck with it

so are you admitting that one nuke in iran doesn't affect our security? which is all that he said....

Burden of proof is upon you. Show where the Dept of Education has been found to be unconstitutional.....I'll wait

no where in the constitution does the federal government get power to regulate education of residents in the states. its that simple

Nothing wrong with copays, they are not popular but if they are needed to control solvency, they may be necessary. What is hypocritical of Dr Paul to fight about what doctors get paid being out of bounds in cutting costs. He is willing to make the elderly bear the burden but not the doctors

I don't get why doctors should agree to get paid less when they could be taking other patients who would pay in full... and why shouldn't the burden be on old people? they are ones being treated....

One of the most laughably ridiculous statements ever uttered by a politician. Let the landowner do whatever he wants with the land...the hell with the impact. I imagine he supports draining swampland because it makes the property more valuable

where did he say to hell with the impact? do you think we shouldn't be mining? are there currently laws against it? and um draining swaplands does raise property value and many people support it due to the removal of disease and bugs from the areas that get drained. both new orleans and disney world are built on former swamps plus thousands of other places

 

[Zona]

Funny, aren't most of his detractors fans of the Boy King.. a rabid anti-semite and a whitey hater?

anti-semite and whitey hater?


Link or are you full of shit? Its one or the other sir. Which will it be?

 

[rightwinger]

what if businesses only operate and sell in one state?

Doesn't matter. The government can still set safety, environmental, labor and in this case civil rights regulations on your business.

so are you admitting that one nuke in iran doesn't affect our security? which is all that he said....

What I am stating is that the US has the global responsibilities that come with our status as superpower. A nuclear equipped Iran destabilizes the region. Nothing outside our borders right now threatens our security. If Rand and his daddy mentor had a say....our military would be reduced to 10% of our current size

Quote: Originally Posted by rightwinger
Burden of proof is upon you. Show where the Dept of Education has been found to be unconstitutional.....I'll wait
no where in the constitution does the federal government get power to regulate education of residents in the states. its that simple

Burden of proof to show where the Dept of Education has been ruled unconstitutional is still on you. If you want to claim it is "your opinion" that it is unconstitutional...you are free to do so

I don't get why doctors should agree to get paid less when they could be taking other patients who would pay in full... and why shouldn't the burden be on old people? they are ones being treated....

They agree to take less all the time with insurance companies. If Medicare is insolvent, then everyone involved needs to bear the burden.....including doctors

where did he say to hell with the impact? do you think we shouldn't be mining? are there currently laws against it? and um draining swaplands does raise property value and many people support it due to the removal of disease and bugs from the areas that get drained. both new orleans and disney world are built on former swamps plus thousands of other places

Mining companies need to comply with all relevant environmental and safety regulations. If they can do so and make a profit, then good for them. If they can't...then too bad for them
Swamps were routinely considered as worthless real estate in the past and cities could do whatever they wished. They have since been found to be critical to our watersheds and drainage systems and are protected

 

[NYcarbineer]

Say anything you want. Rand Paul is a shoo-in this November.

How does that make you feel???

Instead of Bunning, who for the disaster in Iraq, we get Paul, who says he would have opposed. Instead of Grayson, a Cheney lapdog, we get Paul.

Yes, he's a crackpot, but most of his crackpottery will never go anywhere as long as the US maintains some semblance of political sanity. Given that, I'd rather have the peacenik isolationist than the warmongers.

So you lose.

 

[blu]

Doesn't matter. The government can still set safety, environmental, labor and in this case civil rights regulations on your business.

I guess you don't understand the commerce clause then considering it gives the federal government no ruling over in-state only commerce

What I am stating is that the US has the global responsibilities that come with our status as superpower. A nuclear equipped Iran destabilizes the region. Nothing outside our borders right now threatens our security. If Rand and his daddy mentor had a say....our military would be reduced to 10% of our current size

so then was he wrong ? you just agreed with the line you are ragging him for

Burden of proof to show where the Dept of Education has been ruled unconstitutional is still on you. If you want to claim it is "your opinion" that it is unconstitutional...you are free to do so

where it has been ruled? how does that become the goal? I already showed you how it isn't constitutional and you have no refutation to show it is

They agree to take less all the time with insurance companies. If Medicare is insolvent, then everyone involved needs to bear the burden.....including doctors

They do not take less. whatever insurance doesn't cover the person must pay. Doctors shouldnt have to bear any load for the unconstituaional medicare program, they can just choose not to take those patients as smart doctors do

Swamps were routinely considered as worthless real estate in the past and cities could do whatever they wished. They have since been found to be critical to our watersheds and drainage systems and are protected

and does an areas property value not go up when they are drained? that was the only point you tried to make

 

[paperview]

I guess you don't understand the commerce clause then considering it gives the federal government no ruling over in-state only commerce

To repeat: You need to review Heart of Atlanta Motel, Inc. v. United States

to see what SCOTUS had to say about that.